[Goatcrapp]

that letter smells funny also - they claimed there is no money... and yet it WASNT put in their pockets, home, or used to pay their debts... - they claim it was used to purchase materials for the products that were ordered.

I am sure many of you have fabricated things yourself, or are in an industry where you know the price of said materials... the various piping, plastics, metal, tooling, and welding supplies they would be using - considering these prices, and the amounts used in lets say.. a tubular lca... or turbo piping kit, etc... a> thats BS.. what they charged was not merely enough to cover materials cost, there was definite profit (not holding that against them, but there WAS extra cash flow to make this happen.. the money had to have gone somewhere... i don't buy the excuse.. I would rather get a straightforward answer such as "we are terrible at managing money, and dropped the ball on this one")

b> well then, since they HAVE the materials, i mean they DID say thats what the money was used for, right? whats so hard about producing the stuff?

OK, OK, family matters come up.. but family matters for a steady several months??? give me a break.. family isnt going anywhere.. MAKE the time to produce the things you ACCEPTED MONEY FOR. Its not the customer's problem if you got in over your head.

OK, OK... Todd had to get a 9-5 now.. big f'in deal - I have a 9-5 and still make hours and hours of time each week to work on the things i promise people.. even when profitless... be it computer stuff, car stuff, etc. Todd, work in your basement, garage, in a parking lot, curbside, i dont care - don't screw people out of thousands of dollars..

and i love how misty pathetically exclaims how there are expenditures for this.. expenditures for that, theyre trying the best they can wahhh wahhh wahh... and oh no god forbid she now has to pay legal fees LOL.

I LOVE THE RESENTFUL TONE SHE USES.. give me a break - you did this to yourselves, at least have the guts to acknowledge that people HAVE A RIGHT to be pissed.. don't act like you are being unfairly targeted by their wrath.

people like this just don't get it. its a simple word: integrity. Todd and Misty have shown themselves to be wanting in that area. From what i've heard, its not the waiting months that people have the biggest issue with, its the dissappearing act. how DARE you take down your web site and contact info.. how DARE you let emails from people dropping sometimes 3k+, go unanswered..

i HOPE everyone gets their stuff, i really do.... BUT - I also have no doubt in my mind that unless the serious legal actions they are being threatened with, or have already been leveled against them... unless these issues arose, they wouldn't have made a single move to get your parts out.

that letter on their website just pisses me off more than it eases my mind... Its a scary peak into a perpetual victim mindset.

the letter said nothing.. all it should have said was "we [fizzle]ed up royally. Todd is working extra hard to get things done now - and we promise to respond to all emails from concerned customers, from now on... We are terribly sorry for what we have done to our customers, and will be making it right"

thats it. everything else, especially the RESENTMENT toward people WHO FRIGGING PAID YOU... is downright laughable.

I suggest everyone who is a customer, and is owed parts or money - i suggest you copy that html page.. and hold on to it. If this goes no further, and you still dont receive parts - and decide to take legal action - the posting they made can be used, among other things, to show intent to defraud. (its a public, written promise to deliver said parts... its as good as a contract)

I am glad most of you are so patient... and i truly hope not only that Todd and Misty deliver your parts, and avoid royally f'ing up their children, but also that they both go and get jobs working for someone else.. this whole running your own business thing requires scruples, integrity, and better money management than they have shown.

Where is Todd anyway???

when trying to sell these parts, he was the frontman... he would be up in every post 7 or 8 times extolling their virtues, and answering all questions..

What kind of a man retreats to the background when the going gets tough, and lets his wife with some piss poor business sense take the heat, write the apologies, and handle communication with the customers HE convinced to buy the parts?