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**gavin** · 3-11-08, 22:53

Im not an engine guy but I have a curious and thoughtful mind. So heres what I think....

There was a time when the thought of "tuning" was an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, larger injectors and a hacked/modified chip. That was as good as it got for the average tuner/hobbyist. Engine management piggybacks were either crude and ineffective or expensive and simply the stuff of fantasy. I even recall that (for N/A cars) the trick to higher HP was to get rid of the EFI system and go to a carburated setup(!)......but that was 1999.

Today engine management is no longer the stuff of fantasy or the realm of god-on-the-mountaintop tuner shops. The technology to *accurately* control all of the parameters of an engines operation is here....NOW. There are a wide array of powerful tools(standalone systems, the advent of cheap dyno testing) on the market accessable to the average tuner for as moderate or as expensive as one dares to spend. Heres the kicker..even the most inexpensive of these items is capable of controlling an engine with a degree of accuracy never imagined even 3 years ago.

Why would one not take advantage of these tools...other than their mindset is still stuck in the past of 1999? And if it is that they are stuck in the past they will never progress past that point(Ill save my rant about the 2nd genners still buying headers based on a design from 1995).

People...the time for flintlocks and horse drawn carriages has come and gone.

Theres some intrepid Puerto Ricans who got 230hp out of an internally stock KLDE(or at least I think it was a DE). Stock injectors, cams, stock porting, maybe a ZE manifold. How did they do it? Tuning..thats it. They had an engine management unit that they were very familliar with, had very accurate controls and they tightened the screws on the stock fueling and ignition of the engine and that was the results.

Here is a stock dyno of the f2t. One of my old ones...92*F day, open hood with a fan blowing on the radiator and intercooler.

Am I to believe that there is nothing to be gained from more accurate controls of fuel, timing and ignition? Tell that to the Puerto Ricans.

Gavin (has invested in aftermarket engine management for the stock engine and stock turbo)

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gavin Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: santa cruz.ca iTrader: (1)	Im not an engine guy but I have a curious and thoughtful mind. So heres what I think.... There was a time when the thought of "tuning" was an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, larger injectors and a hacked/modified chip. That was as good as it got for the average tuner/hobbyist. Engine management piggybacks were either crude and ineffective or expensive and simply the stuff of fantasy. I even recall that (for N/A cars) the trick to higher HP was to get rid of the EFI system and go to a carburated setup(!)......but that was 1999. Today engine management is no longer the stuff of fantasy or the realm of god-on-the-mountaintop tuner shops. The technology to accurately control all of the parameters of an engines operation is here....NOW. There are a wide array of powerful tools(standalone systems, the advent of cheap dyno testing) on the market accessable to the average tuner for as moderate or as expensive as one dares to spend. Heres the kicker..even the most inexpensive of these items is capable of controlling an engine with a degree of accuracy never imagined even 3 years ago. Why would one not take advantage of these tools...other than their mindset is still stuck in the past of 1999? And if it is that they are stuck in the past they will never progress past that point(Ill save my rant about the 2nd genners still buying headers based on a design from 1995). People...the time for flintlocks and horse drawn carriages has come and gone. Theres some intrepid Puerto Ricans who got 230hp out of an internally stock KLDE(or at least I think it was a DE). Stock injectors, cams, stock porting, maybe a ZE manifold. How did they do it? Tuning..thats it. They had an engine management unit that they were very familliar with, had very accurate controls and they tightened the screws on the stock fueling and ignition of the engine and that was the results. Here is a stock dyno of the f2t. One of my old ones...92F day, open hood with a fan blowing on the radiator and intercooler. Am I to believe that there is nothing* to be gained from more accurate controls of fuel, timing and ignition? Tell that to the Puerto Ricans. Gavin (has invested in aftermarket engine management for the stock engine and stock turbo)