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Old 4-26-05, 22:11   #1 (permalink)
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B2200 F2T Swap

I'm almost done this swap, but with the break in of my shop and the acquisition of my new ride, I've lost interest in continuing. The engine is for sale. PM me if interested.
Here's what I've done so far:

Why?
The Mazda 2.2l is the same block (F2) as the 88-92 MX-6 & 626 and 89-92 Ford Probe. The heads and intake are different and the GT's are factory turbocharged. So, this seemed like a good way to increase the measly 86 HP that the 8 valve carburated mazda Truck engine has. The Turbo F2 is rated at 145 HP and 190 ft lbs of torque. Major improvement.

I have elected to make this more difficult for myself than it should be: I'm bodydropped, and using a large turbo, and standalone engine management system, and many one off/ custom parts. This a hobby and a learning experience, so there may be easier (ghetto) ways to accomplish the same thing.

Intake/ Throttle Body:
This is the adapter plate between the lower intake runners and the intake plenum to flip the intake plenum and throttle body 180 degrees. The throttle body now faces forward, but the throttle cable is too short. A Probe/ MX-6 or MX-3 cable will work. I have an 95 MX-3 cable installed, with a bit of slack left. You can also get a custom plenum made. The adapter was pretty painless except that you lose an EGR passage.
*note: If you are body dropping the truck, the intake will interfere with the hood.




F2Truck did this a bit different: he had the throttle body flange cut off the intake plenum and welded to the other end of the plenum, and the other end blocked off. Looks pretty slick...nice and compact and clean.


The distributor and rear thermostat housing interfere with the firewall...a lot. Need to find another thermostat housing with a different flange orientation, such as a 1.6 liter Mazda 323. Also notice the nipple sticking out the side on the right pic...This also hits firewall, so removal of this nipple and tapping of the hole so a 90 can thread in, is recommended.


Unless you want big firewall holes and no heater core, go distributorless. While you're figuring that out, might as well go standalone and get rid of the VAF. Megasquirt is the ECU of choice, with a Ford EDIS-4 ignition system. A distributor blockoff plate can be fabbed, or the old distributor can be cut down and modded to use as a blockoff.


Here's a distributor blockoff plate I made from an old MX-6 dissy:



A little MAPP gas and aluminum brazing rod to fill the old shaft hole, and I end up with nice solid plate.


Turbo:
You might want to flip the turbo too. Get a 90 or 180 on it so the downpipe exits to the rear and the turbo inlet is forward. A 90 is tight. You will probably need to lose the AC compressor. Here's a 180 degree pipe with adapter flanges. It moves the Turbo forward a bit too. Later, I will make a custom exhaust header from 1.5" Schedule 40 pipe and bends in a 4-1 configuration.



The turbo is gonna be close to the Brake booster and brake lines, so a heat shield might be a good plan.
The stock intercooler will work, but an front mount intercooler with the inlet on on side and oulet on the other will require very little piping and bends. I've bee talking to Gerhard Schruf (Corky Bell's engineering partner) at Bell Intercoolers and they have suggested a 24" X 6" X 2.25" with vertical flow.

If you use an aftermarket FMIC you will very small amount piping to deal with. I figure I can do this with 2-90's and a 45 from the IC to the throttle body, and 2-90's from the turbo to the IC.




Oilpan:
If you don't want to get oil all over your steering rack, use the B2200 oil pan. The F2T pan has a different profile and may interfere with the steering rack and the drain hole for the F2T oilpan is on the side. There may also be a low oil sensor in the F2T oilpan, this may be a Probe only item for the overhead display.

Accessories:
The B2200 and the Probe/ MX6 pulleys are different and spaced differently. Use the old B2200 crank pulley, brackets and power steering. Swap the pulleys on the alternator (the B2200 part is only 50 Amp, the Probe/ MX6 is 70 or 80 if ATX) and use the Probe/ MX6 alternator. If you want to keep the F2T pulleys and brackets, you can use the F2T accessories, but the power steering pump from the Probe/ MX-6 has a remote reservior and one of the connections is too close to the large bolt that attaches the Steering box to the frame, especially since i dropped the engine mounts by an inch. A B2600 also has a power steering pump that has a remote reservior. Fitment is tight, but the connection on the side has a banjo bolt with a 90 degree fitting. It has a different shaft than the MX6 so the pulley won't fit. Find a splined B2600 PS pump and it might work.
Now there's the accessory belt that is a little too close to the lower radiator pipe...


I swapped the power steering for a manual unit. Free up some extra HP.

Exhaust:
Be prepared to re-do the whole exhaust. Stock is way too restrictive.
2.5" is a good size if you plan on more power in the future.
I built a 3" downpipe/ 02 housing, which will then flow through a 3" high flow Catalytic (gotta stay legal) and then a 3" in, 2 x 2 1/4" out Muffler. I have clearance issues, so I'll have to exit before the rear wheel.

Cooling:
Standard B2200's have a 1 row Rad, I think. The Automatics have a 2 row. The B2600i automatics also had a 2 row rad, the same dimensions as the MX-6 rad. You could ditch the B2200 belt driven fan for an electric fan. The stock B2200 rad has never had a problem with cooling, so I'll try it. If there are issues, I'll swap out for a B2600I rad.
Keep the lower radiator hard pipe from the B2200 and attach this to the Probe/ MX6 coolant pipe with all the nipples on it. The end nipple can be trimmed down to re use the B2200 heater core hose. Note that the lower radiator pipe interferes with the accessory belt if you use the Probe/ MX6 accessories. The radiator top hose will need to travel across the valve cover and up to the rad connection about 30".
All coolant piping except the lower rad hose will be replaced.

Fuel:
Also, the fuel pumps on the carbureted B2200's are mechanical, so you'll need to get a B2600i or fuel injected B2200 gastank with provisions for an in-tank fuel pump and run wires to the fuel pump for power.
* some carbureted B2200's have an in tank fuel pump! It's very small.

I used my fuel tank and dropped a Walbro 255HP in it. For fuel management, I added an Aeromotive Fuel Pressure regulator since the stock won't play well with the volume of the 255HP. New 3/8" fuel hard lines for supply and return will be run, as well as all stainless braided rubber hose will be used for fuel connections, except for the vapor system.

Engine control:
So you got all this stuff installed, now what? You gotta control it. If you have saved the stock Probe/ MX6 wiring harness, life will be easier. Re-use the harness with the F2T ECU or go standalone. Electomotive, SDS, Megasquirt or Haltech will do the job.

Driveline:
The B2200 Transmissions bolt right up to the F2T block. No mods required. The Automatic B2200 transmissions have no powertrain control module or ECU control...they rely on vacuum sensing and kickdown switch on the gas pedal and governor weights for shifting functions. Not much to say about the B2200 5 speed, it bolts up, it's a 5 speed, you've probably got one if your reading this.
I swapped out the rear end for a B2600 rear end in preparation for the engine swap. The axles are a bit thicker and it's a 7.5". Rear end ratios are 4.1 or 3.727 depending if its from a 4WD or 2WD. I had the B2600 flange attached to the B2200 driveshaft and had my U-joints replaced at the same time. Got it all balanced and it bolted right up.


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Last edited by NSXR : 6-18-06 at 9:56. Reason: Fixed the pics for ya

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Old 4-29-05, 1:27   #2 (permalink)
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what are you doing for a wireing setup?

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I have only heard of a few people completing this swap. It's not as simple as dropping it in over a weekend with a few buddies and some beer. Maybe if you cut a huge hole in the firewall and gave up the heater core.

I'll have pics soon. I'm hoping this all ends up looking OEM.

Please add to this. This is not meant to be a definitive guide to making a B2200 turbo. I'm doing this as an F2T swap, not a turbo conversion, so there may be simpler ways of doing this, like using the B2200 crank pulley and accessories instead of the F2T parts.


* edit: it is turning into a conversion...there is not much F2T left except the block, head and intake.

* some others have done this conversion on a fuel injected B2200 using the 86-87 MX-6 2.0 turbo system. The intakes are very similar, both run over the valve cover. The heads are only 8 Valve, I believe.

Here is another local BC B2200 with stock fuel injection and a turbo system installed. The engine is built up and sadly the owner is selling the whole engine to drop something else in. Here are some Pics:



Notice how the intake runs across the valve cover, this makes the intake plenum real easy to deal with, unlike using the F2T intake plenum and throttle body.




Thanks to instig_b2200 (FS: B2200 - Built Engine, Custom Turbo, Full Swap -- HUGE Price Drop, NOW with Pics!!) for the pics of his ride and permission to use them.






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Some links to explain:
Megasquirt
Megasquirt Extra
EDIS

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The harmonic ballancer on the cars can be used on the truck. The timing mark was simply moved over to make it more visable, swap the harmonic ballancer AND lower timing cover and your golden.


Here is a more detailed right up:
http://www.mazdatruckin.com/B2200/PulleyMod.html

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He abandonned this project a long time ago.
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Well I hope he eventually emails me back and lets me use that information on my site, I've been looking for that info for about 3 years and never had the money to get into it. If I can get things done in time I'm about to try to do this myself, except I'll be doing a slightly more exotic build.

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Which guy GTkid22 or instig2200? instug2200 AFAIK sold his truck along time ago. GTkid22 had his shop broken into and a lot of his stuff stolen. For whatever reason, he abaandonend the project. That being said, I highly doubt either of them would care.
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kyrasis6- what exactly are you building?

Big fan of your site and your work/ interest in mazdas.

I found a FE 1.8 RWD F.I. motor out of a mazda bongo van, it's a 12 valve cylinder head with distributor on the side of the head- like b2200 head. It's the 12 valve head just like a mx-6/ 626/ probe 1 gen. So a 2.2 turboGT bottom end would go right under it, and the F. I. intake it came with goes over the top of the valve cover, so I'm ready for a 12 valve rwd f2t! I have a 89 ford probe GT I'm using as a donor car, everything works, I'll use the complete EMS and turbo/ manifold, shortblock, and the 1.8 bongo van head and intake, now I just need to find/ make a distributor that will work. The one that came with the bongo motor is just like a F. I. mazda b2200 distributor. I need one with the correct pickups like the GT turbo distributor. Got any ideas?

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lol, right now I don't know what I'm building. I was going to build the engine in the B2200 I just baught a little while ago, that was until some guy in Raleigh called me up wanting to sell me an MX-6 turbo in supposidly damn good shape.

I was originally going to do a 12-valve conversion with JDM truck intake. Convert to megasquirt and be E85 Flex Fuel compatable. My goal was about 130 hp or more and atleast 28 mpg. Was also thinking about going turbo since if I built the engine for the same hp goal it should be more fuel efficient then if I did it all motor. A stock turbo setup running ethanol on megasquirt would have been nice.

I don't know what I'll do with either the truck or the car. I'll probably still try to do the same build on the truck. I was going to build my RX-7 to be the weekend hotrod and don't have a clue as to what to do with the MX6. I want to keep it intact, especially if it is as good as the seller says it is. I'll probably keep it as a daily driver until the truck is complete and/or the RX-7 is rebuilt, then I'll probably do a build for the 6 and sell it to someone lucky :-)

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I did this swap a few years ago and it has been running problem free ever since. There are definitely some things I wish I had done differently, and some things I would like to change. I am running the 8v head, and the PGT ecu. Passes aircare all the time. If anyone has any questions about what I did, feel free to ask. I may respond.

Here is a link to some pictures during the buildup:
http://www.streetsourcemag.com/ViewO...Profileid=9092
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Whoa, for once it's not me bumping old ass threads.


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Hey there im pulling my b2200 motor tomorrow because it smokes really bad and just neds to be pulled out. How much for your complete setup?

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i want to do the same but in to a 85 b2000 the spacer you used in the inlet manifold to do the 180 rotate how did you get it designed and was it lazor cut where did you get the material that thick
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