Zach's HID Retrofit Thread!! - Page 7

**4cylfun** · 3-11-08, 18:10

thats pretty much why i didn't want to f with mine. Well besides being and LS and Auto. They are stupid fast but it was too nicely built of a car for me to want to really do anything to.

What other lights do you think would work for this retro anyway. I found a few infiniti's, q45 i think, that have 2 projectors per housing. the housing almost looks the same size. If it wasn't more round and stuff i would consider modding it into my car. I still want to try a set of '90-93 accord lights. Not sure what all you have to do but even if its just getting the reflector out and getting the flutted glass clear i'm cool. I still plan on doing what zach is doing but i'm trying to slow down on the six. For one i really need this bitch primered. I started driving it around again today but its a little on the rough side having the paint sanded with no sealer. I know your not supposed to do that but i'm working on bad areas and sanding the whole car. After it get all the paint scratched i'm gonna go over it again real quick to give it a smooth feel. Anyway i'm d'railing the thread. Sick pm me if you have advice on painting. I've never done this and any advice would be appreciated.

**Zach** · 3-12-08, 17:18

Update:

For now, I'm not going to be making the lexan covers. I just have too much crap on my plate right now. So I'll be fitting them with the stock fluted glass.

I'll post up pics when they are finally done...should be pretty soon.

**4cylfun** · 3-12-08, 20:06

how do you determine the depth of one of the lens's. Do you just cut it out first and then measure teh mount depth of it. Cause so far the ........whatever year 5 series i saw i could tell but the projectors looked deeper than i thought. I want to say its like a late 80's early 90's.

compnut21 · 3-13-08, 7:08

i still think it would be worth a shot of trying to deflute the stock glass. i might try to give that a shot on my broken light in my closet. maybe just pour some resin on top of the flutes and see if it fills them in making them flat? ill experiment around some tonight/tommrow

The_Evil_Demon · 3-13-08, 11:29

I think the fluted lens are better than the clear lens. Clear lens don't have the equal light output as the fluted lens imo

**Zach** · 3-13-08, 11:57

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Originally Posted by compnut21

i still think it would be worth a shot of trying to deflute the stock glass. i might try to give that a shot on my broken light in my closet. maybe just pour some resin on top of the flutes and see if it fills them in making them flat? ill experiment around some tonight/tommrow

Have fun de-fluting...too much of a hassle.

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Originally Posted by The_Evil_Demon

I think the fluted lens are better than the clear lens. Clear lens don't have the equal light output as the fluted lens imo

You're correct in the sense that clear lenses don't have equal light output as fluted...clear lenses easily double the output of fluted lenses in all cases, halogen or HID projectors...especially in the projectors.

The_Evil_Demon · 3-13-08, 12:01

They are brighter but they have beam spots on the ground. My taurus has clear lens and i don't like them

**Zach** · 3-13-08, 12:57

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Originally Posted by The_Evil_Demon

They are brighter but they have beam spots on the ground. My taurus has clear lens and i don't like them

Some are just better developed and engineered better than others. Example; Ford and other American made cars SUCK in this regards. Others, like Kia, Mazda, Honda and a few others are great clear lensed halogen reflectors. Then you have non-HID projectors (Integra, J30, BMW) which usually suck...then you have HID Projectors from Lexus, BMW and Acura that are THE BEST at producing light. When you take a great pattern like the E46's like I have, the best practice would be to put them behind clear lexan, which is better at light transmission than regular glass. The light output is relatively meh/OK when the stock fluted lenses are put back in place. The light yellow's a little and the cutoff gets muddy...but still 100x better than the stocker halogen

Once I get the parts to seal up the back of the headlight housing, I'll produce a beam shot.

**monoxidechild** · 3-15-08, 8:11

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Originally Posted by 4cylfun

I found a few infiniti's, q45 i think, that have 2 projectors per housing. the housing almost looks the same size.

i have a set of these im working with. (at least i know there out of an Infinity?) dual projectors each headlight. i bought them a few days ago at a local yard when i saw them. allready have them disassembled. they are very close in size to our stockers. im hoping to kinda just retrofit the entire set up into our housings.

The_Evil_Demon · 3-15-08, 8:33

i seen a set of infinity's at the junk yard out here. i might buy them also seen a set on a daewoo? I might wait to actually get a whole hid from a bmw or something. i didn't ask to see if the had any in stock. i could have pocketed the daewoo low beam projectors. Post some pics and a brief write up if you get the Infinity's done

The_Evil_Demon · 3-15-08, 8:42

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Originally Posted by Zach

Some are just better developed and engineered better than others. Example; Ford and other American made cars SUCK in this regards. Others, like Kia, Mazda, Honda and a few others are great clear lensed halogen reflectors. Then you have non-HID projectors (Integra, J30, BMW) which usually suck...then you have HID Projectors from Lexus, BMW and Acura that are THE BEST at producing light. When you take a great pattern like the E46's like I have, the best practice would be to put them behind clear lexan, which is better at light transmission than regular glass. The light output is relatively meh/OK when the stock fluted lenses are put back in place. The light yellow's a little and the cutoff gets muddy...but still 100x better than the stocker halogen

Once I get the parts to seal up the back of the headlight housing, I'll produce a beam shot.

I agree. With projectors you should use lexan or clear glass. I can't wait to see this. I have easy acess to 2 sets of projectors. The Infinity with 4 projectors " Highs and Lows" and Daewoo 2 projectors " lows"

**4cylfun** · 3-15-08, 9:19

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Originally Posted by The_Evil_Demon

I agree. With projectors you should use lexan or clear glass. I can't wait to see this. I have easy acess to 2 sets of projectors. The Infinity with 4 projectors " Highs and Lows" and Daewoo 2 projectors " lows"

holy crap i just saw a daewoo last week with projectors. I didn't know they had those. Do those projectors fit though or are they too big around?

**monoxidechild** · 3-15-08, 9:56

My old hyundai tiburon had projectors also stock.

i litterally walked my entire yard checking every headlights for projectors. then i saw these bad ass dual's staring back at me. to say the least..... i was excited.... lol

The_Evil_Demon · 3-15-08, 9:58

I'm not sure if they would fit. They do look Kinda big. i'm sure they can be made to fit

**Zach** · 3-15-08, 17:25

The BMW E46 single xenon projectors are the largest to fit in our stock 1g housing. If we had just another 1/2" of height, we could fit the TSX projectors in...which would be ideal as they produce the best color and cutoff, or the RX330 AFS projectors, which give off the best foreground light.

3-11-08, 18:10	#91 (permalink)
4cylfun Dedicated LX to GT Guy Join Date: May 2007 Location: Plainfield, IN, USA Age: 25 iTrader: (3)	thats pretty much why i didn't want to f with mine. Well besides being and LS and Auto. They are stupid fast but it was too nicely built of a car for me to want to really do anything to. What other lights do you think would work for this retro anyway. I found a few infiniti's, q45 i think, that have 2 projectors per housing. the housing almost looks the same size. If it wasn't more round and stuff i would consider modding it into my car. I still want to try a set of '90-93 accord lights. Not sure what all you have to do but even if its just getting the reflector out and getting the flutted glass clear i'm cool. I still plan on doing what zach is doing but i'm trying to slow down on the six. For one i really need this bitch primered. I started driving it around again today but its a little on the rough side having the paint sanded with no sealer. I know your not supposed to do that but i'm working on bad areas and sanding the whole car. After it get all the paint scratched i'm gonna go over it again real quick to give it a smooth feel. Anyway i'm d'railing the thread. Sick pm me if you have advice on painting. I've never done this and any advice would be appreciated.
	'88 Mazda MX6 LX Manual Tranny with GT goodies and a custom paint job that i need to badly work on '74 Kawasaki S1-B 250 Triple 2 stroke And last the beater, the '91 Accord EX Coupe Auto w/ half a drop lol.

3-12-08, 20:06	#93 (permalink)
4cylfun Dedicated LX to GT Guy Join Date: May 2007 Location: Plainfield, IN, USA Age: 25 iTrader: (3)	how do you determine the depth of one of the lens's. Do you just cut it out first and then measure teh mount depth of it. Cause so far the ........whatever year 5 series i saw i could tell but the projectors looked deeper than i thought. I want to say its like a late 80's early 90's.
	'88 Mazda MX6 LX Manual Tranny with GT goodies and a custom paint job that i need to badly work on '74 Kawasaki S1-B 250 Triple 2 stroke And last the beater, the '91 Accord EX Coupe Auto w/ half a drop lol.

3-13-08, 7:08	#94 (permalink)
compnut21 Bear on the internet. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Olympia, WA iTrader: (5)	i still think it would be worth a shot of trying to deflute the stock glass. i might try to give that a shot on my broken light in my closet. maybe just pour some resin on top of the flutes and see if it fills them in making them flat? ill experiment around some tonight/tommrow
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3-15-08, 8:33	#100 (permalink)
The_Evil_Demon Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: MidWest USA, USA iTrader: (2)	i seen a set of infinity's at the junk yard out here. i might buy them also seen a set on a daewoo? I might wait to actually get a whole hid from a bmw or something. i didn't ask to see if the had any in stock. i could have pocketed the daewoo low beam projectors. Post some pics and a brief write up if you get the Infinity's done Last edited by The_Evil_Demon : 3-15-08 at 8:37.

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monoxidechild Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: RocKForD, ChiPoC!.!.!.!, IL, USA Age: 27 iTrader: (1)	My old hyundai tiburon had projectors also stock. i litterally walked my entire yard checking every headlights for projectors. then i saw these bad ass dual's staring back at me. to say the least..... i was excited.... lol
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3-13-08, 11:29	#95 (permalink)
The_Evil_Demon Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: MidWest USA, USA iTrader: (2)	I think the fluted lens are better than the clear lens. Clear lens don't have the equal light output as the fluted lens imo

3-13-08, 12:01	#97 (permalink)
The_Evil_Demon Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: MidWest USA, USA iTrader: (2)	They are brighter but they have beam spots on the ground. My taurus has clear lens and i don't like them

3-15-08, 9:58	#104 (permalink)
The_Evil_Demon Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: MidWest USA, USA iTrader: (2)	I'm not sure if they would fit. They do look Kinda big. i'm sure they can be made to fit