Will [Insert Your Rims Here] Rims/Tires fit my car?

[Panther37]

Originally Posted by Me pretending to be a noob

What's the biggest m0f0 rims I can put on my car, 'cause I'm rice?

Questions to be answered:

• What bolt pattern will fit my car? 5x114.3
• What offset will fit my car?
• What are the widest tires that will fit my rims?
• What is the largest sidewall that will fit my rims?
• What is the largest tire size that will fit my rims?

These questions should be answered for the following rim sizes:

• 14"
• 15"
• 16"
• 17"
• 18"
• 19"
• 20"

[AdderMk2]

Originally Posted by Panther37

Questions to be answered:

• What bolt pattern will fit my car? 5x114.3
• What offset will fit my car?
• What are the widest tires that will fit my rims?
• What is the largest sidewall that will fit my rims?
• What is the largest tire size that will fit my rims?

These questions should be answered for the following rim sizes:

• 14"
• 15"
• 16"
• 17"
• 18"
• 19"

OK, now any of you from New England may have heard of Town Fair Tire www.townfairtire.com ... well... i work there and i am the 3rd ranked wheel salesman in Region 5 (the RI/east CT area)



I will be editing this post tomorrow when i come home from work. Right now all I can refer to is the stock PGT size!




now then.. on to the pain

• 14" - Stock size on the PGL

• 15" - Our wonderful stock GT size

It has been argued that the stock size is a 195/60r15, it is not.
Stock size, even according to the sticker in my passenger side door reads 205/60VR15 Mind you i also do drive a Probe.

Upgraded Sizes!!!!!!!!!!

A +45 offset is the furthest that you can go on our cars, especially with a 7.5" wheel. Most Konig wheels come with a +45 offset ( damn hondas ) DO NOT ASK IF 3g RX7 wheels will fit. The offsert on the wheels is too high and will rub very hard against the rear struts. I never recomment spaces, they are not only HACK, but unsafe! i will not sell them at work, and i will not recommend them here. Proper wheel fitment dictates ATLEAST 6 turns of a lug nut for proper torque yeild on the studs.

A +35 offset would be the lowest i would recommend going, a lower offset like this will set the wheels out further, although increasing handling, it will make your car look like the mexican civic with the daytons that stick 2 feet out of the wheel well, not to mention, can cause your tires to rub on the fender in a hard turn.

Always remember, the wider the wheel, the more backspacing you will need to make it fit. Therefore... a 17x8" wheel will fit fine with a +35 offset, but will more then likely rub with a +45 offset. With this in mind, we will move on!

• 16" - proper fitment techniques dictate that the sizing would be a 215/55r16 Again, based on the stock size of a probe tire!

• 17" - unknown to most people... a 205/40r17 IS NOT THE CORRECT SIZE you should be running a 215/45r17 preferably on a 17x7.5" rim with a +40 offset

• 18" - 225/40r18 or even 235/40r18 but no lower then a +40 offset

• 19" - a 19" wheel can be fitted to our cars, but very carefully. A 225/35r19 could be fit into the wheel well, bet you will have to test fit any variation of wheel to get it in there! ... ricer!

• 20" - HEHE i got them to fit on a 1996 Chevy Cavalier...

225/30r20 BFG G-force KDW on 20x7.5" TIS-03 wheels www.twentyinchesstrong.com


Of course, alterations to the ride height of the vehicle will change the fitment of a tire... so keep then in mind!

[mx6GT91]

I can sorta add to the list. I guess edit my post if you dont need this.
Might be different because I have 4WS.

17in Tenzo-R Mean6 with 42mm offset (I think).
Widest tire in the rear I can fit is 215/40/17's.

[magik8]

Originally Posted by AdderMk2

It has been argued that the stock size is a 195/60r15, it is not.
Stock size, even according to the sticker in my passenger side door reads 205/60VR15 Mind you i also do drive a Probe.

Correction, for the mx6/626, 88-89 turbo had 195/60/15 stock tire size, 90-92 turbo had 205/60/15 (mostly, I believe a few had 195/60/15). You cannot generalize all models based on your probe. Keep in mind this is a mx6/626 site, not probetalk.

In general, I recommend the following for the 1st gen MX6 (88-92).

15": 195/60/15 on 88-89, 205/60/15 on 90-92
16": 205/50/16 with 42mm or less offset.
17": 215/45/17 with 42mm or less offset. 17x7" worked on my '91 GT, but it was very close.

I agree that much more offset than 42mm and you'll likely run into trouble. 18" will certainly fit with the right tire and rim size, I'm just not positive which one.

It should be made clear that the 90-92s have slightly more room for tire in the back due to struts that allow more clearance. This has been confirmed by Manifest.

It should also be made clear that the larger the diameter rims you put on your car, the rougher the ride will be due to decreased tire sidewall height. I thought my 17"s were OK, but the ride definitely got rougher when upgrading from the stock 205/60/15. In retrospect I would have probably gone with 16s.

[Dyoel182]

Originally Posted by AdderMk2

A +45 offset is the furthest that you can go on our cars, especially with a 7.5" wheel. Most Konig wheels come with a +45 offset ( damn hondas ) DO NOT ASK IF 3g RX7 wheels will fit. The offsert on the wheels is too high and will rub very hard against the rear struts. I never recomment spaces, they are not only HACK, but unsafe! i will not sell them at work, and i will not recommend them here. Proper wheel fitment dictates ATLEAST 6 turns of a lug nut for proper torque yeild on the studs.

I do agree that slip on wheel spacers are kinda hack, but I think unsafe is going a little too far. If done correctly (longer heavier duty studs) I think slip on spacers would be okay but personally I will only use (and do use) the bolt on spacers that let you have the full stud thread for a true torque. Eibach had done tons of trial and research before releasing their performance spacers, so I trust that they are street and track safe.

[Mr.JasonBH]

17": 215/45/17 with 42mm

Mine

[Fastest95PGT]

Originally Posted by AdderMk2

DO NOT ASK IF 3g RX7 wheels will fit. The offsert on the wheels is too high and will rub very hard against the rear struts. I never recomment spaces, they are not only HACK, but unsafe! i will not sell them at work, and i will not recommend them here. Proper wheel fitment dictates ATLEAST 6 turns of a lug nut for proper torque yeild on the studs.

My 2g loves it's FD rims with spacers.. you'd be surprised how much thread still sticks out.

[SixSick6]

When done correctly, almost nothing is a hack:http://www.mx6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73189 (Fun with RX7 rims)

This doesn't apply to 99% of customers you probably see in your line of business Adder. To reiterate what Magik8 said, the stock size on the 88-89's is 195/60-15 for the GT's and some LX/DX...mostly DX I believe? got 185/70-14. I can post a page from the shop manual if you'd like?

[gavin]

Id also like to add another level of confusion to this.

Tires.

The truth is tire makers do not conform to an agreed upon standard for how to measure their tires. 205mm is not always 205mm ( a falken Azenis 205/50/15 measures as wide as a BFG KD 225/50/15, Kumhos 225/50/16 MX measures wider than many 235s and as wide as some 245 tires on the same width wheel). The tire could be a rounded profile, or have very square shoulders. This will affect clearance to struts and fenders.

It would be good to say that witin a manufacturers line there is consistency but even this isnt completely true. Using Falken again as an example, their 215 tire is only marginally wider than thier 205 tire.

This is for a specific application(autocross) but some of this is applicable to others as well.

I run my clearances very tight, stuffing as much tire as I can between the strut body and the fender. A change in tire manufacturer can affect the clearance one has when running tollerences this tight. Spacers have become a necessity as this is a more practical means of changing spacing/offset of wheels than buying new wheels with the "correct" offset.

I would suggest to anyone who is sizing a wheel/tire combo that is on the fringes to check the manufacturers sites(or tire rack) and check listings for tread width and section width(and what wheel width the measuements were taken from). That will help to reduce the chance of clearance issues.

EDIT:speling

Gavin

[SixSick6]

I figured I'd post this and title it appropriately for future searches. It's been on plenty of times but I had to dig around before I found it:
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Miata Tire Size Calculator

[Panther37]

Don't forget about the one on PerformanceProbe.com
http://www.performanceprobe.com/misc...calc&page=tire

[Muteki]

I have a DX and am about to order some rims, but read an old post saying 215/40r17's were the biggest I could go. If this is true, this just saved me a bunch of hassel cuz I was about to order 215/45r17's. Is this true or can I go ahead and order the 215/45/r17's?

[Phat89TX5]

You can get 14" rims as stock, just for some useless information...

[zorb_rules]

hey guys I know im reviving and old thread and ive done a search anyhows..IM getting some rims rather cheaply off a mate problem is they are way too big the front are 18x8 and rears are 18x9 now I know if I roll (flare my gaurds) the 18x8's will fit but what about the 18x9's? IM driving a tx5 so 4ws is not a concern. Any ideas?? Ohh jsut a note the rims are comign off a 1999 model 200sx.. Oh also theres 5 rims 3 are 8's 2 are 9's so if 8's will fit alround might try find a 2nd hand joint that will swap 2 9's for 1 8

Thnaks for the help guys

[brianwarner983]

hey, i have a question.
i found some probe take/off wheels for 50 bucks for all 4. they are in really nice shape, but im not sure if they will fit.
they are 35 offset, 15x7 wheels
my car is a 1991 626 dx non turbo
also, if they will fit, what would be a good tire size?