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Old 1-24-06, 17:45   #1 (permalink)
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CT26 or T3?

I'm wondering which turbo i should run a CT26 or a T3? any suggestions? its for my mx6, the CT26 comes on the toyota 3SGT motor if anyone is familiar, They both have there ups and downs but what do you guys think?
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I'm wondering which turbo i should run a CT26 or a T3? any suggestions? its for my mx6, the CT26 comes on the toyota 3SGT motor if anyone is familiar, They both have there ups and downs but what do you guys think?
CT26 comes out of a 7MGTE supra motor.
its gonna be too much to spool I figure.

Id go with the T3

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Most CT26's are unreliable not to mention cumbersome.
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i would go with a t3, or a 16g. 16g can support 400hp and spools good, and very dependable.

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on the stock motor with a t3 or a 16g what psi should i run to be safe?
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is your fuel managment stock? If you have a stock car than wait off on the turbo. Before you do a turbo you should upgrade your ECU with a zombie chip, do a walbro 190 fuel pump, mabey some injectors, and stuff to make it so you can run higher than 10psi. The stock turbo can handle 15 psi and such but you dont wanna crank up your boost controller to 15 psi if you dont have enough fuel to support 15psi. If you upgrade your turbo and not the fuel system than your still going to be running 10psi. In my honost opinion changing the turbo is one of the last things you do. Fuel comes first. Crank it to 15 psi or so on stock fuel system and you can say buh bye to your mazda, and say hello to detonation and fried rings (and I dont meen onion rings either). I would say once you've done all this (1G GT: Budget Mod Guide for po' folk) for fuel then go with a bigger turbo.




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^^^^ buddy, where are you getting your information? it certainly isnt from experience, because you drive a LX. people like you need to stop ringing in to threads like this, when you dont know what youre talking about. see where it says 1G forced induction. go check under your hood, if you dont see a turbo, then you shouldnt be here.


from experience, i have seen stock fuel systems support 16-18psi on decently sized t3's, like the super60

3-5 years ago, people were afraid of boosting more then 12psi without "omg guys, get the 255, 3 extra injectors, 330's, back the timing off, run 110, etc etc etc"
now what? people buy the chip, crank boost up, and do as they please.

hey jasonBH, dont try to sound like a smartass. ct26's were in the sw20 mr2's, and the mkiv 7m supra's. the mr2 ct26 is smaller though

like damien said, dont bother with the ct26. its big, unreliable, and the 7m version has a massive exhaust side. not to mention, if you dont like it, the ct26 flange it unique, and you wont find many turbo upgrades to bolt up to it.

depends what T3 youre looking at. i say go for it, since theres plenty of room to upgrade in the future once you have a t3 footprint on your manifold

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easy there dude no need to be rude. I may not have a turbo but I can post my opinion and i do know a thing or two about turbos. And dude I dont need a turbo to know that running lean is NOT a good thing at all. Everyone knows running lean is dangerous. I personally see no need to run a T3. I have heard plenty of stories of people who fry there rings and destroy there engines from running too lean. As I stated in my post it said "in my honost opinion". I think there is plenty of room to upgrade before going to a T3. Again IMO a T3 is kinda pointless. Also with a T3 it takes longer to build boost (or so I hear).

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It'd take to long to spool the CT26 as far as efficiency is concerned and depending on the size of the T3 (A/R) I'd go with the T3

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easy there dude no need to be rude. I may not have a turbo but I can post my opinion and i do know a thing or two about turbos. And dude I dont need a turbo to know that running lean is NOT a good thing at all. Everyone knows running lean is dangerous. I personally see no need to run a T3. I have heard plenty of stories of people who fry there rings and destroy there engines from running too lean. As I stated in my post it said "in my honost opinion". I think there is plenty of room to upgrade before going to a T3. Again IMO a T3 is kinda pointless. Also with a T3 it takes longer to build boost (or so I hear).
ok wow, here you go again. no one said anything about going lean. the stock fuel system can support a bigger turbo properly.
there is more to how laggy a turbo will be then its size. please, stop talking about stuff youve only "heard" about
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is your fuel managment stock? If you have a stock car than wait off on the turbo. Before you do a turbo you should upgrade your ECU with a zombie chip, do a walbro 190 fuel pump, mabey some injectors, and stuff to make it so you can run higher than 10psi. The stock turbo can handle 15 psi and such but you dont wanna crank up your boost controller to 15 psi if you dont have enough fuel to support 15psi. If you upgrade your turbo and not the fuel system than your still going to be running 10psi. In my honost opinion changing the turbo is one of the last things you do. Fuel comes first. Crank it to 15 psi or so on stock fuel system and you can say buh bye to your mazda, and say hello to detonation and fried rings (and I dont meen onion rings either). I would say once you've done all this (1G GT: Budget Mod Guide for po' folk) for fuel then go with a bigger turbo.




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Ok, first off here, he's not asking what upgrade he should start with.........
He asked, WHAT TURBO???
Both turbo's are capable of putting out big power, and obviously NOT for a stock fuel system.
Let's think about this for one second.... BOTH Turbo's will require moifacation to run.
As anyone will tell you, the garrett is alot better for all kinds of reasons. Best one is all the different variants of Garrett's you can run, without re-doing a manifold everytime. Oh yea, and there a dime a dozen............. I think almost any Scrap Yard will have a T-3, not so many with a Toyota.

And why on earth would you want to spend all the $$$ on fuel upgrades, and leave the turbo stock??? P.S. There's people with hybrid turbo's on there car with all stock internals, and stock fuel. and without a chip!

Oh and btw........Our fuel system with a stock turbo up to 15 psi......should not have too much problems. I've spiked it past that before with it all stock, (and I said spiked, since i do not have a chip), and it wasn't bye,bye mazda for me.....

Now, 15 pis with the toyota turbo, or comparble t-3 (60 series)......and stock fuel......well, yea most likely bye bye mazda. But with some small check ups. yea it still can be done.
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Sorry DJ_Jerk, I didnt know that the CT26 Came in other motors other than the supra 7MGTE, thanks for the education though.

Either way, it is a large turbo to spool.
I would go T3, I have a T3 sitting in my lap I am pondering using.
I also have a CT26

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with a 3" turboback exhaust, a t3 60/48 spooled almost like a stocker with a 3" exhaust.

it is not much laggier at all. again if people didnt just speculate, and spoke from experience, they would find out otherwise. this is no different then the "omg you need 10 extra injectors to go past 12psi" myth that no longer goes around

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Sorry DJ_Jerk, I didnt know that the CT26 Came in other motors other than the supra 7MGTE, thanks for the education though.

Either way, it is a large turbo to spool.
I would go T3, I have a T3 sitting in my lap I am pondering using.
I also have a CT26
Roght, but what some people forget is that there are ALOT of different T-3's too. And Like I said......some comparable to the CT26.

Thing is....with a Garrett, if its not the right size for what you want, there LOTS of different options (AND PARTS)......

Not the case with the Toyota turbo.
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^ which is exactly what i had said in my first reply.
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