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high compression f2 in the making

I called wiseco piston yesterday and order 2 set of pistons , 8.5.1 and 10.0.1 pistons set complete with rings,pin and clip, It should take 3-4 weeks to be here, and i want to see what f2 will do on 10.1 compression and 6262 turbo with billet wheel and high boost. should be fun

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The 1st set of piston came in today march 06 2012
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86mm
piston weight =346g
comp height=1.427
bore=3.3858

Dome and valve pocket
dome rise:-.210
dome volume: -22.0
deck thickness: .450

valve dia
pocket dia intake : 1.4000 exhaust 1.3000
angle 18.50 both int& exh
depth from TE intake :-.2200 exhaust -.1600



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If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for each set separately? Also, what did you have to tell them? Just, I need pistons for an f2 and this compression ratio? Or did you have to give them skirt measurements and all that other bullshit?
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If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for each set separately? Also, what did you have to tell them? Just, I need pistons for an f2 and this compression ratio? Or did you have to give them skirt measurements and all that other bull[shizzle]?
no I just gave then the old custom piston number they made for the f2t 2 years ago, and told then to make it in stock bore size 86mm, and compression ratio, If you need the custom part number,pm me. just tell them to make it in whatever bore size you desire. Then already have all the measurement and spec of the stock piston.

also i do have cp/carrillo custom number and probe industries pistons #
but they are a bit pricey,

wiseco will cost you $580 for the set
probe industries will cost you $600
cp is $810 if you buy 1 set or $680 if i buy 2 set.

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1990 mx6lx 348whp@ 18psi slipping clutch
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Higher duration cam such as an FE4J cam coming or no?

With your high comp' pistons I'm thinking you'd benefit greatly from reduced dynamic compression lower in the rpm that a mild cam will bring.

You're really pushing F2T development here and I applaud you!

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Thanks a lot for the info, I appreciate it. I'm gonna subscribe to this thread. I might pm in the coming weeks depending on when my income tax comes in. Thanks ademan.

And mx_masta, I've wanted an Fe4j cam for quite a while now and I don't know where to get one. It's more of a top end cam rather than the stock f2t cam correct?
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It is a stock 2L carby 12V cam so it'll have more than good manners and good mid range on a 2.2L.

Join FORD TELSTAR TX5 FORUMS and have a search for a guy name TX5_driver on there, that's who I got my FE4J cam from.
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really...so you don't know for sure if its a direct fit??
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Yes it is.

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Awesome, sorry for jacking your thread ademan.

So are you planning on running e85 on the high compression motor? I think that would be best for that setup. We have to get your ms working. I told you I'd work with you on it if you're willing to make a drive one weekend.
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Static or Dynamic? What is the dish volume in CC of the pistons? Both sets please. Weight in grams too.
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Static or Dynamic? What is the dish volume in CC of the pistons? Both sets please. Weight in grams too.
All the piston i have ever seen or acquired have been less weight that stock,
my je piston is 87mm vs stock 86mm and then weight considerable less. i still have the piston set somewhere, i can re weigh it if i can find a scale. but the piston /rod combo is about half the weight of stock piston rod combo.

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Awesome, sorry for jacking your thread ademan.

So are you planning on running e85 on the high compression motor? I think that would be best for that setup. We have to get your ms working. I told you I'd work with you on it if you're willing to make a drive one weekend.
Thats was the plan to run e85, possible nitrous. I dont know yet. but im still deciding what motor i need to put the 10.1 comp piston. maybe my na-T. maybe. i dont know. also i need to get the megasquirt working. do you know how to get the ms1 working on coilpack, i bought a escort coilpack setup on ebay, comes with vr sensor and 36-1 wheel. i will love to get rid of the distributor if i can, how about i buy you a ticket and you come here, maybe thats might be easier for you? let me know . i bought another sds ecu to install on the car, but i will really like to get the megasquirt back up .

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Piston rod combo using which rod? Stock rods or the pauters? From what I understand stock rods are forged, at least that was the end result of that thread. Sick you were in that thread and I think you were too ademan. It was said that there's no casting marks on the rod or something? If this is the case I'm just gonna stick with stock rods. It's said they can handle 350 easy. I know that number was probably pulled out of someone's ass, but if its a good tune and you don't miss a gear, I don't see a problem using them.

I know you have pauters from earlier threads, but with the weight comparison which rods were you referring to?
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Higher duration cam such as an FE4J cam coming or no?

With your high comp' pistons I'm thinking you'd benefit greatly from reduced dynamic compression lower in the rpm that a mild cam will bring.

You're really pushing F2T development here and I applaud you!

im still on stock cams

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6262 is a reall good turbo. and with 10:1 you should spool that fine. But you better look into revvin that bitch to get the good out of that turbo.. {I myself will be doing 9:1 with a 5858 with a billet wheel.. so it will be interesting to compare.

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