just replaced cylinder head. now a weird starting issue???

**8user8** · 9-24-06, 14:45

well it starts, but it shuts off when after about a second or two. i have no idea and nor does marcus (mazda4ever). any help would be appreciated

**8user8** · 9-24-06, 15:00

well after i told marcus to try starting i noticed that the cam gear wobbles back and forth. wtf does that mean???????????? im fed up with the first gens now

**8user8** · 9-24-06, 18:03

if i give it gas as soon as it starts it stays running. and i noticed the engive bay reeked of gas...

anyone???

**allmazda** · 9-24-06, 19:51

Start from the beginning. Was the cam gear installed with the head or did you change it over? The pin should be at the 12oclock position? Then the gear place on number 1 so the pin is below the number one. It really does not matter wear the pin is now just make sure it is below number 1. To tighten or loosen there is a hole to the right of gear where you place a flat screw driver through and it will lock the gear while you tighten it. Sounds like it is not in time.

Did you remove the bottom cover to verify the crank was set correctly. I remember someone posting if they had to remove the bottom cover. The cover does has the timing marks but I do not think you would be able to tell if it was off by a tooth.

Jon · 9-24-06, 20:08

Did you plug the VAF back in?

**tyler886** · 9-24-06, 20:11

Tighten up your cam gear, redo your belt (sounds like youre off by a tooth or two) and try again. VAF? Who unplugs that to do a head? Jon, have you had any drinks watching football today

-Tyler

**8user8** · 9-24-06, 20:16

vaf is plugged in

cam gear is TIGHT.

and the cam itself was in the head when i got it. besides that im not sure what your saying allmazda.

im done with the 1st gen, time to move on.

**tyler886** · 9-24-06, 20:18

Boy you give up easily

Did the head come loaded or did you have to transfer all valves, rocker arms, HLAs, etc. over?

-Tyler

**allmazda** · 9-24-06, 20:44

Take the cam gear off if it came with it. Inspect were the pin is. Place the gear back on so the pin is below the number 1

See the pin in the picture at 12oclock.

**8user8** · 9-24-06, 20:52

yeah im giving up easily. lol

the head came loaded. i checked all the torque specs and it was all good

picture no worky for me

**Mazda4ever** · 9-24-06, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8user8

yeah im giving up easily. lol

the head came loaded. i checked all the torque specs and it was all good

picture no worky for me

hes saying al, to take the cam gear off and make sure its set right, that may be your problem..

**8user8** · 9-25-06, 6:13

well its working this beautiful mourning so i should go and check for [shizzle]s and giggles

**Jake** · 9-25-06, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8user8

well its working this beautiful mourning so i should go and check for [shizzle]s and giggles

It IS? What did it end up being?

**Zach** · 9-25-06, 14:28

loose plug wire or massive vacuum or fuel leak

**Dyoel182** · 9-25-06, 15:39

Mine was a massive vac leak when I did a head job.

9-24-06, 14:45	#1 (permalink)
8user8 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wonder lake, IL, USA iTrader: (0)	just replaced cylinder head. now a weird starting issue??? well it starts, but it shuts off when after about a second or two. i have no idea and nor does marcus (mazda4ever). any help would be appreciated
	FHL inc.

9-24-06, 15:00	#2 (permalink)
8user8 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wonder lake, IL, USA iTrader: (0)	well after i told marcus to try starting i noticed that the cam gear wobbles back and forth. wtf does that mean???????????? im fed up with the first gens now
	FHL inc.

9-24-06, 18:03	#3 (permalink)
8user8 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wonder lake, IL, USA iTrader: (0)	if i give it gas as soon as it starts it stays running. and i noticed the engive bay reeked of gas... anyone???
	FHL inc.

9-24-06, 20:11	#6 (permalink)
tyler886 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Long Islands Cousin iTrader: (0)	Tighten up your cam gear, redo your belt (sounds like youre off by a tooth or two) and try again. VAF? Who unplugs that to do a head? Jon, have you had any drinks watching football today -Tyler
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9-24-06, 20:16	#7 (permalink)
8user8 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wonder lake, IL, USA iTrader: (0)	vaf is plugged in cam gear is TIGHT. and the cam itself was in the head when i got it. besides that im not sure what your saying allmazda. im done with the 1st gen, time to move on.
	FHL inc.

9-24-06, 19:51	#4 (permalink)
allmazda Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: , NC iTrader: (2)	Start from the beginning. Was the cam gear installed with the head or did you change it over? The pin should be at the 12oclock position? Then the gear place on number 1 so the pin is below the number one. It really does not matter wear the pin is now just make sure it is below number 1. To tighten or loosen there is a hole to the right of gear where you place a flat screw driver through and it will lock the gear while you tighten it. Sounds like it is not in time. Did you remove the bottom cover to verify the crank was set correctly. I remember someone posting if they had to remove the bottom cover. The cover does has the timing marks but I do not think you would be able to tell if it was off by a tooth.

9-24-06, 20:08	#5 (permalink)
Jon Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redmond, WA, USA iTrader: (0)	Did you plug the VAF back in?

9-24-06, 20:18	#8 (permalink)
tyler886 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Long Islands Cousin iTrader: (0)	Boy you give up easily Did the head come loaded or did you have to transfer all valves, rocker arms, HLAs, etc. over? -Tyler
	- "An Intense Commitment of Your Total Satisfaction" - Mazda - The Overhaul 1989 MX-6 GT All-Original 59k 1994 Eddie Bauer Bronco - 351W w/ E4OD Need Brake Pads for a car or truck?

9-24-06, 20:44	#9 (permalink)
allmazda Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: , NC iTrader: (2)	Take the cam gear off if it came with it. Inspect were the pin is. Place the gear back on so the pin is below the number 1 See the pin in the picture at 12oclock.

9-24-06, 20:52	#10 (permalink)
8user8 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wonder lake, IL, USA iTrader: (0)	yeah im giving up easily. lol the head came loaded. i checked all the torque specs and it was all good picture no worky for me
	FHL inc.

9-25-06, 6:13	#12 (permalink)
8user8 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: wonder lake, IL, USA iTrader: (0)	well its working this beautiful mourning so i should go and check for [shizzle]s and giggles
	FHL inc.

9-25-06, 15:39	#15 (permalink)
Dyoel182 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Granbury, TX iTrader: (0)	Mine was a massive vac leak when I did a head job.
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