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Axle popping out issue

Hey guys. New to the forums. But just some insight needed here. I have an 88 MX6 GT Turbo. Its got roughly 140k, now yesterday i was stuck in some snow. And while attempting to get out, my driverside axle popped out. Now I jacked it up, pounded it back in, but it wouldnt go in all the way. On top of that, it came back out after about a mile of driving. It wont stay in. Is this a common issue? The only thing i can really think of, is maybe the tranny mount broke or some engine mount broke and my tranny shifted over, not allowing enough spline for the half shaft. Is there some kind of retaining clip for the shaft into the tranny?

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Yes there is a clip that holds it in. You might have to get a new axle. I had a friend that this kept happing to, He ended up replacing the hole thing with the intermediate shaft too. Try not to drive it if you can. Replace the pin and hope that it works with out a problem.

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Yes there is a clip that holds it in. You might have to get a new axle. I had a friend that this kept happing to, He ended up replacing the hole thing with the intermediate shaft too. Try not to drive it if you can. Replace the pin and hope that it works with out a problem.

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The intermediate shaft is only on the passenger side. My guess is that the snap ring that's on the end of the spline is either busted or gone. My vote goes for getting a new axle, but not from AutoZone. The clips they use on the end of the spline are too large and you will not be able to remove the axle when the time comes to use your warranty on the 'lifetime' axle.

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On my friends probe the axle grinded the intermidiate shaft to the point that he had to get a new one.

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Ok guys thanks for the reply. Yea this is the drivers side. Its just the whole cv shaft. I can understand that the pin broken would cause the shaft to fall out. But, shafts dont just "fall" out. Matter of fact most transverse axles dont even have a pin. The opposing pressure from the hubs against the axles hold them in place. That also doesnt explain why the axle wont go all the way in, unless im missing a point you were getting at? Would a broken pin cause the axle to not go in all the way? I am unable to drive the car, the axle popped back out after only 2 blocks of driving, had pound it back in, and it still didnt wanna seat completely against the tranny. almost like the axle wasnt long enough to reach all the way into the tranny, or something is stopping the axle from going all the way in. Thus why i thought the tranny/engine moved. that would explain most of the issues im having. Please continue though, your jogging my mind into a conclusion.
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Ok guys thanks for the reply. Yea this is the drivers side. Its just the whole cv shaft. I can understand that the pin broken would cause the shaft to fall out. But, shafts dont just "fall" out. Matter of fact most transverse axles dont even have a pin. The opposing pressure from the hubs against the axles hold them in place. That also doesnt explain why the axle wont go all the way in, unless im missing a point you were getting at? Would a broken pin cause the axle to not go in all the way? I am unable to drive the car, the axle popped back out after only 2 blocks of driving, had pound it back in, and it still didnt wanna seat completely against the tranny. almost like the axle wasnt long enough to reach all the way into the tranny, or something is stopping the axle from going all the way in. Thus why i thought the tranny/engine moved. that would explain most of the issues im having. Please continue though, your jogging my mind into a conclusion.
There is no pin, it's a clip, or circlip. the next time it pops out, look at the end of your spline. You'll see a recess with a hopefully a clip. If there's no clip, then you know your answer. Also, if the pressure/stability of the hub was enough to hold the axle in place, why would they put a clip on the end of the spline on the driver's side and bolt the intermediate shaft to the firewall on the other side to hold in the passenger axle? Also, I hope you've been putting in tranny fluid every time your axle pops out...

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Its not popping out COMPLETELY, thats impossible altogether. If you can pull ur axle out of the tranny without dropping the hub. Dear god. The passenge side is bolted due to it being substantially longer than the driver. Its not only and axle but u have the bracketing in there aswell to provide for rigidity. I wont be able to see the spline unless i pull the axle (aka dropping the hub first). The axle isnt popping out, the splines are merely not meshed together far enough. So picture the axle in the tranny but slid out roughly 1.5". Thats it. i can bump the axle and the splines lock. Its damn near in. How do u propose i see if this alegid clip is missing without dropping the hub?
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ok i found this site, kinda related.

Toyota Paseo Axle Replacement

So im i to assume the c-clip broke? or simply popped out of place? cause i could just try to pop it back in no? if not could i not just get a new c-clip? I would like to try to pop it back in. Remember i was beating the hell outta this thing to try to get it out of the snow (forward/reverse). So i mean realistically i could have just popped it out of place. especially since the axle wont go all the way back in. It might be hung up on the clip. So i could try to pop it back in? I need another opinion.
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i suppose you could but i would rather take the axle all the way out to inspect for damage. If the c-clip is gone its probably inside the diff area which would be bad in case it gets caught in a gear.

I don't normally just replace something without inspecting why it happened. But i suppose if you wanted to you could take off the axle nut and tap it with a dead blow or a rubber mallet and see if it pops back in, but like i said, i would check to see if its there and if its not i'd go lookin before more bad issues come. Just my 2 cents.

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i suppose you could but i would rather take the axle all the way out to inspect for damage. If the c-clip is gone its probably inside the diff area which would be bad in case it gets caught in a gear.

I don't normally just replace something without inspecting why it happened. But i suppose if you wanted to you could take off the axle nut and tap it with a dead blow or a rubber mallet and see if it pops back in, but like i said, i would check to see if its there and if its not i'd go lookin before more bad issues come. Just my 2 cents.
If the clip is damaged, he can shove it back in, but it won't seat. Putting in the axle should be as easy as it is to put it in. Three firm tugs should pop it out, while two to three shoves should pop it back into place

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yea this is my 500$ daily driver. I could care less what happens to the tranny lol. my primary car is a supra targa turbo and im buying an is300 in about 6 months. i pulled the axle last night, the c-clip is missing, so i went to autozone bought an axle. Popped it back in, and viola. 59 bucks and an hour of my time.
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leads me to another point. when i buy my new car, this one is instantly up for sale unless i trade it in. Its an 88 mx6 turbo. Roughly 140k miles 5spd sunroof. its got 2 new wheel bearings, all new struts, 1 new axle (lol), could use a clutch, but ill prolly do that soon. Im putting a 14b or 16g on it soon. annnd ill prolly get a new hg on there, with quite a few other engine gaskets. At the time of the clutch ill attempt to fish out the c-clip. I know what the inside of the tranny looks like right there and it trulely shouldnt get hung up on a gear. but yea. thats it.
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i went out the other day and bought two new axles. i got them both out no problem. but the problem is that i cant get the new driver side axle to seat. i tried to bang it in but nothing at alll seems to work. what am i doing wrong here?!?
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Make sure there is only one seal in there. Can be easy to overlook if the seal gets stuck to the transmission. Make sure the opening of the clip is facing upward and push on the axle to make sure there is no gap in the boot, then tap it in.

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also check to make sure the spider gear didn't get all pickle eyed.

If you took both axles out at the same time you might have an issue. I had to stick my finger inside the splies to straighten it out and then my drivers side went right in.

Don't know if its the same for auto's

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