B2200 upgrade to 12v head - Page 2

**SABBAi** · 5-28-08, 7:28

Clearly not the same. Look at the multi-point injection in the first photo you can clearly see a fuel rail. You pic chief, shows us the single point injection hat. Not quite the same.

I still love your setup in the GC though!

**chief tool** · 5-28-08, 16:13

Problem is that none of the 8v stuff really mates to a 12v head as far as I am aware.
Sabbai, I thought you were looking for the CFI, I have a shot of the MPEFI manifold off the 929 somewhere.

The manifold in the injected RWD 12v photo is not one I have ever seen, it could be out of van.

I think Brian wanted to steer clear of injection, although the B2200 would go better with injection. not to mention better economy, easier starting...yada yada..

**SABBAi** · 5-28-08, 19:19

I'm pretty sure that is a 8V head and manifold setup in the pic with the red rocker cover.

90probef2t · 5-28-08, 22:18

hey anyone looking to do this with an f2t. my friend started dong the same thing he put a f2t in a b2200. he didnt finish it bcuz he wanted to get a ms and never did. he sold the turbo off of it. but it is for sale. let me no if you r interested.

Kyrasis6 · 5-29-08, 12:43

B2500 is a completely different engine as is the B2600, I've never heard of anyone bolting a B2600 onto their B2200 or B2000. You could certainly swap out the tranny bell housings on a manual but don't know anything about the automatic or if the B2600 bell housing pattern is the same as the F2/FE

The B2600i and B2200 FI both use the same distributor, heads aren't even close, the B2600 uses a timing chain and is not even close to being interchangable.

I sent you a pm on why you have to change the fuel tank and fuel lines when switching to FI from carburetion.

briankmizell · 5-30-08, 3:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyrasis6

I sent you a pm on why you have to change the fuel tank and fuel lines when switching to FI from carburetion.

Ok thanks for the input

briankmizell · 5-30-08, 3:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief tool

I think Brian wanted to steer clear of injection, although the B2200 would go better with injection. not to mention better economy, easier starting...yada yada..

Well I come across a good deal on a 97 FS from a 626, I got it for $100

It had low compression so I am tearing it down for a rebuild.

I would like to get 140 to 160 HP with out turbo if possible, any Ideas on headers, cams, injectors, etc. etc.

p.s. the FI intake from the 626 faces the rear, any one know what intake, if any will bolt to the FS2 head that will face the front.

By chance would the 99 kia sportage intake bolt to that head?

dealwithit · 5-30-08, 13:59

any chance you could throw up some pics of the FS engine? i've seen a few in cars but never out of one. what tranny do you plan to run one the back of it?

briankmizell · 6-2-08, 17:47

I'll get the camera now and see what i can do, the engine is disasembled now, but I'll take some pics of the engines and the truck I am putting it in.

I havent done ANY WORK AT ALL TO THE TRUCK YET! SO DONT LAUGH.....LOL

dealwithit · 6-7-08, 13:48

you should start your thread about your swap eh? and yah maybe snap some pics of the back of the engine where the tranny would mount to it. you can check out my swap too

my F2T swap (no rotary anymore) - Mazdatruckin.com

briankmizell · 6-12-08, 13:39

Ok after quite a bit of work and tear down of the FS engine, I have realized that the oilpan will not work on the B2200 truck. The sump is too low and hits the steering components.

Also after tear down of the F2 that i have I notice that the rods and crank are alot tougher looking than the FS, plus the fact that the bore and stroke are quite a bit larger on the F2.

So now I am on the hunt again for an F2 head, I have found an FE head on ebay that they state will work on my 2.2 F2.

What I would like to know is which head is the best, F2 or FE?

Or is there even a difference between the two of them?

**compnut21** · 6-12-08, 15:38

as far as i know the fe head will not fit the f2, unless you mean the sohc fe. im not if the sohc one will.

briankmizell · 6-12-08, 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by compnut21

as far as i know the fe head will not fit the f2, unless you mean the sohc fe. im not if the sohc one will.

its the FE SOHC, here is a pic of the actual head forsale

**chief tool** · 6-12-08, 17:14

Yes the SOHC 8v head fits, theyre essentially all the same for F8/FE/F2.

FWD and RWD versions of the 8v head use a different camshaft as the distributor is forward in the head on the RWD, while the FWD has it at the back

There maybe a difference in the cam profile, but AFAIK the valves, ports and CC volume are all the same.

**DarkMx-6** · 6-12-08, 17:17

yep that will work for you, but 3 valves per cylinder is better than 2. see if you can find a company that will just import the b2200 F2 head, May be?

5-28-08, 7:28	#16 (permalink)
SABBAi Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (1)	Clearly not the same. Look at the multi-point injection in the first photo you can clearly see a fuel rail. You pic chief, shows us the single point injection hat. Not quite the same. I still love your setup in the GC though!
	Teh Telstar can NEVAH lose!

5-28-08, 16:13	#17 (permalink)
chief tool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 36 iTrader: (2)	Problem is that none of the 8v stuff really mates to a 12v head as far as I am aware. Sabbai, I thought you were looking for the CFI, I have a shot of the MPEFI manifold off the 929 somewhere. The manifold in the injected RWD 12v photo is not one I have ever seen, it could be out of van. I think Brian wanted to steer clear of injection, although the B2200 would go better with injection. not to mention better economy, easier starting...yada yada..
	84 626 sedan FE SOHC turbo (sleeper) 89 626 5 door F2T 90 323 sedan B6 SOHC Slug-o-matic DD, sold...too slow

5-28-08, 19:19	#18 (permalink)
SABBAi Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (1)	I'm pretty sure that is a 8V head and manifold setup in the pic with the red rocker cover.
	Teh Telstar can NEVAH lose!

5-28-08, 22:18	#19 (permalink)
90probef2t Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: iTrader: (1)	hey anyone looking to do this with an f2t. my friend started dong the same thing he put a f2t in a b2200. he didnt finish it bcuz he wanted to get a ms and never did. he sold the turbo off of it. but it is for sale. let me no if you r interested.
90probef2t Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: iTrader: (1)

5-29-08, 12:43	#20 (permalink)
Kyrasis6 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Statesville, NC Age: 25 iTrader: (0)	B2500 is a completely different engine as is the B2600, I've never heard of anyone bolting a B2600 onto their B2200 or B2000. You could certainly swap out the tranny bell housings on a manual but don't know anything about the automatic or if the B2600 bell housing pattern is the same as the F2/FE The B2600i and B2200 FI both use the same distributor, heads aren't even close, the B2600 uses a timing chain and is not even close to being interchangable. I sent you a pm on why you have to change the fuel tank and fuel lines when switching to FI from carburetion.
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5-30-08, 13:59	#23 (permalink)
dealwithit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Coquitlam, Canada Age: 24 iTrader: (0)	any chance you could throw up some pics of the FS engine? i've seen a few in cars but never out of one. what tranny do you plan to run one the back of it?

6-2-08, 17:47	#24 (permalink)
briankmizell Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hackett, AR, USA Age: 40 iTrader: (0)	I'll get the camera now and see what i can do, the engine is disasembled now, but I'll take some pics of the engines and the truck I am putting it in. I havent done ANY WORK AT ALL TO THE TRUCK YET! SO DONT LAUGH.....LOL

6-7-08, 13:48	#25 (permalink)
dealwithit Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Coquitlam, Canada Age: 24 iTrader: (0)	you should start your thread about your swap eh? and yah maybe snap some pics of the back of the engine where the tranny would mount to it. you can check out my swap too my F2T swap (no rotary anymore) - Mazdatruckin.com

6-12-08, 13:39	#26 (permalink)
briankmizell Join Date: May 2008 Location: Hackett, AR, USA Age: 40 iTrader: (0)	Ok after quite a bit of work and tear down of the FS engine, I have realized that the oilpan will not work on the B2200 truck. The sump is too low and hits the steering components. Also after tear down of the F2 that i have I notice that the rods and crank are alot tougher looking than the FS, plus the fact that the bore and stroke are quite a bit larger on the F2. So now I am on the hunt again for an F2 head, I have found an FE head on ebay that they state will work on my 2.2 F2. What I would like to know is which head is the best, F2 or FE? Or is there even a difference between the two of them?

6-12-08, 15:38	#27 (permalink)
compnut21 words under name Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Olympia, WA iTrader: (7)	as far as i know the fe head will not fit the f2, unless you mean the sohc fe. im not if the sohc one will.
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6-12-08, 17:14	#29 (permalink)
chief tool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 36 iTrader: (2)	Yes the SOHC 8v head fits, theyre essentially all the same for F8/FE/F2. FWD and RWD versions of the 8v head use a different camshaft as the distributor is forward in the head on the RWD, while the FWD has it at the back There maybe a difference in the cam profile, but AFAIK the valves, ports and CC volume are all the same.
	84 626 sedan FE SOHC turbo (sleeper) 89 626 5 door F2T 90 323 sedan B6 SOHC Slug-o-matic DD, sold...too slow

6-12-08, 17:17	#30 (permalink)
DarkMx-6 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Keene, TX, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (4)	yep that will work for you, but 3 valves per cylinder is better than 2. see if you can find a company that will just import the b2200 F2 head, May be?
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