Different water pump turbine?

**deadmeat** · 6-20-02, 3:26

well, i went over to panther37's the other day, and i pulled off his water pump.

much to my amazement, we had different water pumps on our cars! i brought my old stock one to use as a reference to remove all the screws... and we noticed (not like it was really hard to notice

.) that the turbine on the water pumps were completely different!

any explanation? antiSUV, i'm looking at you...

http://www.deadmeat.freeservers.com/...mp-compare.JPG

-meaty

**johniebgoode** · 6-20-02, 8:29

Maybe the factory had different vendors or possibly incorporated a running update with a better flowing design (or possibly more cost effective.) One never knows for sure, with all the different models using the 2.2 Mazda motor. There was also a Mazda manufacturing plant in Canada. You would think that the Turbo should have a stronger pump, but even if it did, you know how generic the aftermarket replacement parts are. Perhaps, it's an original made in Japan ! Ha, hah !!!!

**deadmeat** · 6-20-02, 11:58

actually, when i got a new water pump for my mx-6, they gave me one that looked exactly like my stock one. (the one on the left).

because his is an '89, wouldnt you think they'd be the same? or maybe the fact that my mx-6 is the jm vin #, and his is the american vin #, 1yv.

maybe thats why their different?

-meaty

**warpspeed** · 6-20-02, 17:29

on the topic of h2o pumps...i have just replaced my leaky pump (pissed the hell over the whole garage) and how it makes a rather loud whirling sound that goes louder with revs. any clue to make it stop? my mechanic says its usual for mazda cars. hhmmmm.

wat do u guys reckon? nothing faulty with it, just annoying.

warpie

Jon · 6-20-02, 17:41

Hmm, I have a aftermarket water pump sitting in my garage that looks exactly like panthers.

**cam22t** · 6-20-02, 19:35

Its a Jap water pump , the groove in the pump is to accomodate a single use expanding "O" ring . You can use a normal gasket .

I have that pump on my FE3 and my F2T has the newer pump.

**88MX6GT** · 6-21-02, 0:43

That's interesting. I tore apart my old F2T when PSI pulled it out of my car prepping for the FE3 swap. When I pulled the water pump of fit looked like the one on the left. My car was also the JM1 vin #. Must be a Jap thing as Cam22T noted. Now I have the Sephia water pump b/c of the FE3.

**Panther37** · 6-22-02, 12:03

Guys there's 2 pumps in the picture, don't say, yeah, mine looks like that one. WHICH ONE? Anyway, my busted pump, the one on the right, the fins are TWICE as large. My gasket was also a metal gasket. (I'll be using it over)

**Panther37** · 6-22-02, 16:01

Here's a better pic of my water pump. The metal gasket is on it too. This is a different pic of the one on the right of the original pic.

**Panther37** · 5-22-03, 0:09

Quote:

Originally posted by cam22t
Its a Jap water pump , the groove in the pump is to accomodate a single use expanding "O" ring . You can use a normal gasket .
I have that pump on my FE3 and my F2T has the newer pump.

What groove? The only difference I see is the turbine.

**2Rusty** · 5-22-03, 0:22

I just picked up a water pump from the dealer for my '92. Part number 8AK1-15-010A which I will be installing tomorrow along with my AdamTurbo aluminum crank pulley

provided the weather cooperates. It's sitting in my back seat at the moment but I'll be sure to take a critical look at it tomorrow and maybe snap a pic of it next to my old one if it's different.

**mx6GT91** · 5-22-03, 0:26

Quote:

My car was also the JM1 vin #. Must be a Jap thing as Cam22T noted.

so if you have the JM1 for the first 3 in the vin number you have a Japan spec 6?? That means i have one

anyway, i think i need to replace mine i dont even know if its ever been replaced. what does a water pump cost??

Quote:

Anyway, my busted pump, the one on the right, the fins are TWICE as large. My gasket was also a metal gasket. (I'll be using it over)

seems as if yours is better than the one on the right, looks like more flow

**2Rusty** · 5-22-03, 0:47

My pump just cost me $95.95 and the metal gasket was $5.35

**max** · 5-22-03, 1:02

When I replaced mine the old looked like the one on the left. The new one looked identical to the one on the right. It included itself and the gasket. I had to go to Mazda and buy new rubbers because mine had all crumbled away when I took off the leaky pump. They cost almost as much as the new pump itself. Apparantly, when you buy the water pump from the dealer they come with the rubbers ... and the gasket is sold seperately.

**Panther37** · 5-22-03, 1:10

Quote:

Originally posted by 2Rusty
My pump just cost me $95.95 and the metal gasket was $5.35

I hope it has dual ball-bearings. Mine was half that @ autoZone and works great!

6-20-02, 3:26	#1 (permalink)
deadmeat Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sarasota, Florida, FL, USA Age: 26 iTrader: (0)	Different water pump turbine? well, i went over to panther37's the other day, and i pulled off his water pump. much to my amazement, we had different water pumps on our cars! i brought my old stock one to use as a reference to remove all the screws... and we noticed (not like it was really hard to notice .) that the turbine on the water pumps were completely different! any explanation? antiSUV, i'm looking at you... http://www.deadmeat.freeservers.com/...mp-compare.JPG -meaty
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6-20-02, 8:29	#2 (permalink)
johniebgoode Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Stairway to Heaven, Pennsylvania, U.S.A. iTrader: (0)	Good find Maybe the factory had different vendors or possibly incorporated a running update with a better flowing design (or possibly more cost effective.) One never knows for sure, with all the different models using the 2.2 Mazda motor. There was also a Mazda manufacturing plant in Canada. You would think that the Turbo should have a stronger pump, but even if it did, you know how generic the aftermarket replacement parts are. Perhaps, it's an original made in Japan ! Ha, hah !!!!
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6-20-02, 11:58	#3 (permalink)
deadmeat Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Sarasota, Florida, FL, USA Age: 26 iTrader: (0)	actually, when i got a new water pump for my mx-6, they gave me one that looked exactly like my stock one. (the one on the left). because his is an '89, wouldnt you think they'd be the same? or maybe the fact that my mx-6 is the jm vin #, and his is the american vin #, 1yv. maybe thats why their different? -meaty
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6-20-02, 17:29	#4 (permalink)
warpspeed Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Up-yours, Australia Age: 32 iTrader: (0)	on the topic of h2o pumps...i have just replaced my leaky pump (pissed the hell over the whole garage) and how it makes a rather loud whirling sound that goes louder with revs. any clue to make it stop? my mechanic says its usual for mazda cars. hhmmmm. wat do u guys reckon? nothing faulty with it, just annoying. warpie
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6-20-02, 19:35	#6 (permalink)
cam22t Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia iTrader: (1)	Its a Jap water pump , the groove in the pump is to accomodate a single use expanding "O" ring . You can use a normal gasket . I have that pump on my FE3 and my F2T has the newer pump.
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6-20-02, 17:41	#5 (permalink)
Jon Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Redmond, WA, USA iTrader: (0)	Hmm, I have a aftermarket water pump sitting in my garage that looks exactly like panthers.

6-21-02, 0:43	#7 (permalink)
88MX6GT Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Winter Park, FL, USA Age: 29 iTrader: (0)	That's interesting. I tore apart my old F2T when PSI pulled it out of my car prepping for the FE3 swap. When I pulled the water pump of fit looked like the one on the left. My car was also the JM1 vin #. Must be a Jap thing as Cam22T noted. Now I have the Sephia water pump b/c of the FE3.
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6-22-02, 12:03	#8 (permalink)
Panther37 The Mod With the Mostest. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Patrick AFB, FL, USA Age: 27 iTrader: (0)	Guys there's 2 pumps in the picture, don't say, yeah, mine looks like that one. WHICH ONE? Anyway, my busted pump, the one on the right, the fins are TWICE as large. My gasket was also a metal gasket. (I'll be using it over)
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5-22-03, 0:22	#11 (permalink)
2Rusty cooled under pressure Join Date: May 2001 Location: Connecticut, USA Age: 32 iTrader: (1)	I just picked up a water pump from the dealer for my '92. Part number 8AK1-15-010A which I will be installing tomorrow along with my AdamTurbo aluminum crank pulley provided the weather cooperates. It's sitting in my back seat at the moment but I'll be sure to take a critical look at it tomorrow and maybe snap a pic of it next to my old one if it's different.
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5-22-03, 0:47	#13 (permalink)
2Rusty cooled under pressure Join Date: May 2001 Location: Connecticut, USA Age: 32 iTrader: (1)	My pump just cost me $95.95 and the metal gasket was $5.35
	Blaze Red 1992 MX-6 GT WHP = 167.4 WTQ = 234.2 ft-lbs @ 10psi.