appology to all, esp Euro owners, Re: AWD 626

**Blind Freddie** · 11-6-03, 14:38

guys i know this is not a nessesaty and probably wrong forum, but this is regarding GD so yeah.

im a kind of person who will admit when they are wrong, but will nto belive something without seeing proof. in terms of cars seeing myself or seeing official papers.

anyway, history for those who don't know.

over last 3 years or so, i was heaviely debating that mazda has NEVER made a AWD 626/Capella with a manual. and even here-say from quet relible members did not budge my view.

well, i was WRONG.

a couple of days ago i got my grabby little hands on some Mazda documents (as i do time after time

) from that i got knolage that the things DID INFACT EXISTED. yes a 5-speed AWD 626/Capella. but by the numbers that were listed it looks like (at least Japan) got only a hand full....... wasn't popular i guess.

anyway, i appoligize to those members that i might have ofended with my strong stance on the issue, many will know who they are.

esp appology to FE3T, sorry man never meant to doubt you, but that the way i am. and Dutch626, Frank you know i love ya

thats about it for me. maybe unnessesary but i feel needs to be said

**magik8** · 11-6-03, 14:42

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Originally posted by Blind Freddie

a couple of days ago i got my grabby little hands on some Mazda documents (as i do time after time ) from that i got knolage that the things DID INFACT EXISTED.

How does one go about getting their "grabby little hands on some Mazda documents" ? Where are they from? We would all like to see them, I am certain.

**Blind Freddie** · 11-6-03, 14:55

i got a friend at mazda Japan. he is a retired engeenier, he actually was working on the RX-6 project (1st gen mx6 with 13BT, replacement for Luce coupe, the only rotary FWD factory). and was heavily involved in Roadster(Miata) development. he still has good ties with mazda but now works with Suzuki (which he hinted a couple of times that mazda actually has a lot of say in the Suzuki Automotive, go figure

) Now and then he would send me info about mazda as he knows me as "MASHIDA NUTER". so a couple of weeks i got this info e-mailed to me, and my eyes poped, hence the thread.

unfortunately i can not desclose anything, as much as id love to do it. project Rx-6 was kinda doomed for failer so he doesn't mind me talking about, but i did get into hot watter over the fight me and RandyS had on Probetalk regarding Roadsters....... i haven't even heard from him for a while after that.

this info he sands to me is like "here something for you to know, let people know, but don't show and hide it, you didn't get it from me or even got it at all". at times i get pissed off about it as i have all this info and i post it and people don't belive me..... all i can say in my defence is "up to you to belive me or not" and not be able to back my words. but i let a lot of it out there and, well, up to you to belive me or not

Mazda Japan, surprize suprize, is a bit of a mess when it comes down to older models (from about 2nd series GF it got better), but it one secrative company....... at times i can't understand why

**Panther37** · 11-6-03, 15:33

Wait, so mazda is hiding 10 year old documents on stupid stuff like how many 5-speed AWD 626s they made? Hmmm... Sounds dumb and a waste of energy to me.

**Blind Freddie** · 11-6-03, 16:49

i so agree that it is pathetic....... i mean WHY??? not that our cars so special or hide some sort of technological advance. and they are getting to 20 year old mark........ i personaly have no idea.

the only reason i could find is that during that time Mazda was nearing bankrupsy and it has something to hide, but stuff like specs and parts lists or behind seens developments where is the reason?

**linoleum** · 11-6-03, 17:23

apology is NOT accepted.

hehe. interesting stuff. share as much as possible!

**88MX6GT** · 11-7-03, 14:48

I don't know if you and I ever fought over it, but I have seen an AWD setup for a manual. Manual trannies, all driveshafts, suspension for it, underside console for it (basically the underside of the console, it is a LOT more of a hump in the floor as they cut it off the car for the buyer so he could just get his cut out and this welded in. Pretty cool, but sort of weak axles and driveshaft. Pretty small.

**86Maz6** · 11-8-03, 0:43

I applaud you Blind Freddie not alot of the guys on here would have the guts to do what you did, besides this is the first time i ever heard you say somthing about 626, or mx6 that was wrong DONT LET IT EVER HAPPEN AGAIN

**Evert** · 11-9-03, 21:38

I'm almost sure that I had some pics sent to me from a Finnish 626 owner whos AWD had a 5-speed.. Anyways, it doesn't matter.
Freddie, I have a question for you. You seem to be well educated in the field of technical data. What manual gear box, for gas or diesel engine, that fits FE dohc has the highest torque rating?