B2200 F2 Head options (12V?)

jdusablon · 7-17-07, 0:35

Can I use the 12-valve head of an MX-6 F2 and swap out my 8-valve F2 head from my B2200?

I've been looking at the specs of the F2 engine of that generation and they seem identical! The distributor is in the same place for carbed and Fuel injected, right?

**fredio54** · 7-17-07, 4:56

you will find the dizzy will be in the cab if you use the fwd head. you can get rwd 12v head though, if its like the 8v, then the basic head is the same, and a modular bit bolts on that makes it rwd/fwd. the cam is also different for the drive for the fwd/rwd dizzy

the basic hg is the same though. but the coolant plumbing is different. source the correct hg for the ute setup unless you put the thermo on the back of the head, in which case, source the fwd hg.

fred.

**proberider** · 7-17-07, 20:18

What the hell is a ute?

**carcenomy** · 7-17-07, 20:30

A Utility vehicle - it's an Australasian term that makes more sense than pick-up truck. I mean WTF is a 'pick-up' truck? What are you picking up? Hillbillies?

**nmn** · 7-17-07, 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcenomy

A Utility vehicle - it's an Australasian term that makes more sense than pick-up truck. I mean WTF is a 'pick-up' truck? What are you picking up? Hillbillies?

**SixSick6** · 7-18-07, 2:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcenomy

A Utility vehicle - it's an Australasian term that makes more sense than pick-up truck. I mean WTF is a 'pick-up' truck? What are you picking up? *****************?

Fixed it for ya.

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jdusablon · 7-18-07, 8:18

Damn. That would have been a nice upgrade for a B2200. Sounds like trouble.

**DarkMx-6** · 7-18-07, 12:15

I heard you can get a rwd 12v head from a Mazda van that should work.
Am I right on that guys?

jdusablon · 7-18-07, 12:53

Quote from "My Cousin Vinnie", perhaps? "What's a ute?"

According to Wikipedia:

F2 Engine:

1988-1992 Mazda 626
1988-1992 Mazda MX-6
1988-1992 Ford Probe
1987-1999 Mazda B2200

F2T Engine:
Mazda 626
Mazda MX-6
Ford Probe

Unless Wikpedia is wrong (it happens!) I don't think there is a van in that list...or is there?

What engine does the MPV use?

**DarkMx-6** · 7-18-07, 13:22

http://www.mx6.com/forums/1g-faq-sub...ml#post1607316 (B2200 F2T Swap: put a Turbo in your Truck!)

I found the post where he was talking about it /\

**carcenomy** · 7-18-07, 18:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdusablon

Quote from "My Cousin Vinnie", perhaps? "What's a ute?"

According to Wikipedia:

F2 Engine:

1988-1992 Mazda 626
1988-1992 Mazda MX-6
1988-1992 Ford Probe
1987-1999 Mazda B2200

F2T Engine:
Mazda 626
Mazda MX-6
Ford Probe

Unless Wikpedia is wrong (it happens!) I don't think there is a van in that list...or is there?

What engine does the MPV use?

The F2 is a simple stroker of the FE. And as such, there's similar 12V heads for the FE and the destroked F8, including RWD variations used in the E-series/Bongo vans.

And chances are Wikipedia is wrong... never quote the F-engine pages, I tidied them up a bit but there's no solid information to be found anywhere.

jdusablon · 7-18-07, 21:39

As the Professy says:

"HOO! That's good news!"

I'll just keep on looking, then. I'm going to guess that I'm looking for an F engine with:

1. Same dimensions, displacement and layout,
2. Same cam gear size exactly
3. Same conduits (cooling and oil)

Is that correct?

**carcenomy** · 7-19-07, 5:40

12V head from F8/FE RWD would probably be the way to go. Talk to Fredio, he's pretty wise on such matters.

**rodhog** · 7-25-07, 12:22

I can tell you for sure there is 12Valve headed B2200 and B2600 and the mazda E series vans- or bongo's in japan.

it is sliglhty different head but same valves etc.

**DarkMx-6** · 7-25-07, 17:35

are you sure its not a swap that someone did on that truck? I've never heard of 12v b2200. I know the rest of the world likes to keep all the good cars wile we have all the crappy ones so I can belive it if its true

7-17-07, 0:35	#1 (permalink)
jdusablon New Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Age: 32 iTrader: (0)	B2200 F2 Head options (12V?) Can I use the 12-valve head of an MX-6 F2 and swap out my 8-valve F2 head from my B2200? I've been looking at the specs of the F2 engine of that generation and they seem identical! The distributor is in the same place for carbed and Fuel injected, right?

7-17-07, 4:56	#2 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	you will find the dizzy will be in the cab if you use the fwd head. you can get rwd 12v head though, if its like the 8v, then the basic head is the same, and a modular bit bolts on that makes it rwd/fwd. the cam is also different for the drive for the fwd/rwd dizzy the basic hg is the same though. but the coolant plumbing is different. source the correct hg for the ute setup unless you put the thermo on the back of the head, in which case, source the fwd hg. fred.
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7-17-07, 20:30	#4 (permalink)
carcenomy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Invercargill, New Zealand Age: 23 iTrader: (0)	A Utility vehicle - it's an Australasian term that makes more sense than pick-up truck. I mean WTF is a 'pick-up' truck? What are you picking up? Hillbillies?
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7-18-07, 12:15	#8 (permalink)
DarkMx-6 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Keene, TX, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (4)	I heard you can get a rwd 12v head from a Mazda van that should work. Am I right on that guys?
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7-18-07, 12:53	#9 (permalink)
jdusablon New Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Age: 32 iTrader: (0)	Quote from "My Cousin Vinnie", perhaps? "What's a ute?" According to Wikipedia: F2 Engine: 1988-1992 Mazda 626 1988-1992 Mazda MX-6 1988-1992 Ford Probe 1987-1999 Mazda B2200 F2T Engine: Mazda 626 Mazda MX-6 Ford Probe Unless Wikpedia is wrong (it happens!) I don't think there is a van in that list...or is there? What engine does the MPV use? Last edited by jdusablon : 7-18-07 at 12:59.

7-17-07, 20:18	#3 (permalink)
proberider Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lower Mt. Bethel, PA, USA Age: 33 iTrader: (4)	What the hell is a ute?

7-18-07, 8:18	#7 (permalink)
jdusablon New Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Age: 32 iTrader: (0)	Damn. That would have been a nice upgrade for a B2200. Sounds like trouble.

7-18-07, 13:22	#10 (permalink)
DarkMx-6 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Keene, TX, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (4)	http://www.mx6.com/forums/1g-faq-sub...ml#post1607316 (B2200 F2T Swap: put a Turbo in your Truck!) I found the post where he was talking about it /\
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7-18-07, 21:39	#12 (permalink)
jdusablon New Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Age: 32 iTrader: (0)	As the Professy says: "HOO! That's good news!" I'll just keep on looking, then. I'm going to guess that I'm looking for an F engine with: 1. Same dimensions, displacement and layout, 2. Same cam gear size exactly 3. Same conduits (cooling and oil) Is that correct?

7-19-07, 5:40	#13 (permalink)
carcenomy Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Invercargill, New Zealand Age: 23 iTrader: (0)	12V head from F8/FE RWD would probably be the way to go. Talk to Fredio, he's pretty wise on such matters.
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7-25-07, 12:22	#14 (permalink)
rodhog Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: LAKEMBA Sydney Australia, Australia iTrader: (0)	I can tell you for sure there is 12Valve headed B2200 and B2600 and the mazda E series vans- or bongo's in japan. it is sliglhty different head but same valves etc.
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7-25-07, 17:35	#15 (permalink)
DarkMx-6 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Keene, TX, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (4)	are you sure its not a swap that someone did on that truck? I've never heard of 12v b2200. I know the rest of the world likes to keep all the good cars wile we have all the crappy ones so I can belive it if its true
	91 White mx6 GT: Boosted N/A block, Fidanza, 9 psi, open down pipe 90 Red mx6 GT: No engine 78,000 miles 92 Green mx6 DX: parts car Gone (CRUSHED) 04 Civic: The daily, CAI, No muffler(sounds way better than ricers, people ask what kind of muffler i have cuz they like it LOL) Great on gas