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Old 4-30-12, 7:07   #1 (permalink)
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Mazda H and G series Transmission question (Ford Festiva build)

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My name is Jorg from Germany. I´am 34 years old and a Mazda (F2T) fanatic ;-)

Ok, here´s my problem. I´am in progess build a Kia Pride (or Ford Festiva) with a F2T.
Current Motor in my Pride is a "hybrid" BPD / BPT (shortblock BPD, rest is BPT) with a Mazda 121 "bubble car" CUP gearbox and Sachs Performance Clutch. Holds that kind of power really good.
But I don´t like that BPT "small displacment sound" even with a 2,5" exhaust, if I may say so... And I love the torquey F2T.

The gearbox that comes with my F2T is a series H Gearbox, but it´s a really tight fit in the Prides enginebay. I think the left framerails (gearbox side) must be cut. Other physical dimensions are ok. The F2T is about 1,2 Inches higher than the BPT and roughly the same longer.

Are the G series gearboxes from the 2.0 or 2.2 n/a less longer than the H series? I´m fine with cutting the frame. But maybe theres another solution to safe space.


So long!

Jorg

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The G seriae are a smaller frame and lighter weight, however I believe that the length of the box is the same. Can you get the pictures to work? I am really stoked to see thes custom install project.

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Hello!

Sorry, I discribed the current status of the build wrong. I disassemble my car this week, the F2T lies in my Garage. I think I can put the old BPT out this weekend and testfit the F2T.
I only measure the physical dimensions of the F2T and compared it with the available space under the hood. It´s tight but highly possible. Only real problem is the trannymount on the back of the gearbox. No space.
I think I obtain an old G-series 626 or MX-6 gearbox from the junkyard.

Here are the current pictures with the old BPT/BPD.

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I'll keep you informed with the F2T build.

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use the 2.2 n/a g series trans. its the only way your going to be able to fit that engine without alot of frame rail cutting. going off the KL/G series swapped build thread, and comparing it to what i knew with the f2t, id say you should be able to fit a F2t/G series without any cutting. and you can upgrade the G series alot more then you can the H series. and the parts are cheaper.

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That´s good news.

But a n/a 2.2 G-series gearbox is almost impossible to find in germany. Lots of FS-DE G-series, Probe GT H-series...no problem. 2.2 n/a hasn´t been available in Germany.

Only fund a 2.0 16V 626 GD (FE3?) 140 h.p gearbox. I think it´s a G5M. Please correct me if I´m wrong.

Yes, I read the kl/g series build. Very nice.

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i would think in germany that fe3 would have3 the h series trans. get the vin number off of it and decode it at this website,...

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FE3/FE-DOHC came with a G series trans everywhere. even in germany. that will work just fine.

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Only fund a 2.0 16V 626 GD (FE3?) 140 h.p gearbox. I think it´s a G5M. Please correct me if I´m wrong.



So long!
This is the gearbox you need. It will bolt up to your F2T engine. Just make sure you get the sandwich plate behind the flywheel, you need the flywheel, clutch, driveshafts etc, as they are all different to F2T gearbox.

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Sorry for the delay. I´m little bit busy at the moment. And my "garage" is open-air, because my main-garage is full of engine stuff and another small u*** car

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The F2T sits in temporary, and yes, all lines up, pretty well. Gearlinkage, position of the driveshafts and so on. I think there is no need cutting the firewall. Cutting the frame is necessary, 1,5 inches on both sides. I have done this on my first BPT-swap.
Pictures to come.


G series Gearbox from an F2 or FE-DOHC is a another matter altogether. All offers are without driveshafts, clutch and sandwich plate. And not cheap.
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Maybe the G-series is better here. Need roughly 1 inch down and back and good to go.


More than enough space, no problem here.


Another point of view.


The story needs an complete new designed crossmember. Thats the funny part. Or an G-series :-)
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Update:

Sterring rack problem fixed. Hanging the engine a bit deeper and to the right side is the key. And, of course, a little bit of framecutting. I think the driveshafts are in an good angle, too. Its a tight game between steering rack and gearboxcase. I hope that works.



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