Gavins all out suspension mods - Page 7

**Mazda_MX6_Turbo** · 3-21-03, 20:15

man cutting out the perches is a pain in the a$$. it took me like 45min to cut out the first one. but it looked great after.
pic
man im gonna take them to some machine shop and tell them to cut them out. my drimle isnt for the job.

**gavin** · 3-21-03, 23:50

Yeah. The grinding of the perches can be a beast. You arent using a cordless Dremmel are you? Its gotta be a corded Dremmel with the burly reinforced cutoff wheels(you'll need a couple of them)

Or you could cheat

Gavin

**NPA!** · 3-22-03, 0:17

that's a nice shoe you've got there

**gavin** · 3-22-03, 2:10

Oh man. You have no idea. I have so many pictures that have a guest appearance by my foot

I look through them and it like "Thats a good shot of my(...) oops got a part of my foot in there", "And heres another pic of(...) Hmm, theres my foot again", " and another of (...) what the hell!! Its my foot again!". I swear I dont know how I do it

Gavin

**Mazda_MX6_Turbo** · 3-22-03, 16:24

well this will be the dremel im useing. o btw its not cordless. hehe
my dremel

**gavin** · 3-24-03, 19:09

Well I finally go word from corksport about the goofy rear camber plates I recieved.

Its a TYPO. Thats right. All these years Cusco has had a typo in their catalog and no one has ever called them on it until now. Yay me

Corksport has been going through their catalogs and they have found the error going back as far as 1999. What kills me is that, it seems, not one person has ordered these items in more than 4 years. Not one. How sad.

I may return them and get my money back..but yet I think there may be something I can do with these plates. "necessity is the mother of invention", Hmm. Maybe. I'll have to think abouth this more. In the meanwhile I will continue with the GCs. I had put everything on pause whilst I find out what was going on with the cuscos.

Gavin

**gavin** · 3-24-03, 19:57

evo626 and 1988riceburner. this post is for you(and just about anyone else reading this post)

Other happenings..
I have found a place to order my swaybars. 22mm fronts and 20mm rears (BMF32, BMR47) from Whiteline (www.whiteline.com.au). The bars are relatively cheap at 109$ apiece. Shipping depends on where you live.

They are an Australian company well known in Subaru circles. They are available through MRT performance in the US. They have a listing of Shops in the US that distrubute their products. http://www.whiteline.com.au/dealers_usa.htm

I ordered mine through 185performance.com , a shop in colorado that deals with toyotas. They were prompt, knew the products and were quick with information. They normally consolidate orders monthly to save on shipping costs from australia. Their next order goes out within the next 2 weeks, shipping from australia is 3-4 weeks.

MRT also distributes www.superpro.com.au . Urethane suspension bushings. They have a fitment for the FRONT ONLY for the 1st gen MX6(626GD). I have these on my car now. They are very nice pieces. SPF1278-80k(front control arm bushing/front), SPF1278-70(front control arm bushing/rear).

A lot of folks here like to drag their cars. With 12-15yr old bushings the front control arms will deflect a lot and get sloppy. At its worst the arms will toe in and cause darty handling on takeoff and high speed. I would say that bushings(or new control arms) are a must to maintain correct alignment of the control arms.

It was interesting to note that 185performance mentioned (on their own)that they can get bushings for the MX6. Perhaps they have an eye out for mazdas also?

EDIT: That distributor link doesnt seem to work. Go to whiteline>how to purchace>usa. That will get you the listing of us shops that carry whieline.

Gavin

1988riceburner · 3-31-03, 12:53

YOUR THE MAN GAVIN!

NOW A TOAST TO YOU FOR YOUR AWESOME FINDINGS.

**gavin** · 4-1-03, 18:09

Sorry I havent kept things moving here. Ive been tied up with other random happenings.....including participating in Mazdas Rev It Up over the weekend

. If this event is coming to your area DO NOT miss it or I will find you and call you names like "poopiehead"

Seriously though, this is the best 40$you could spend this year. It was an awesome event.

www.mazdarevitup.com I finished 90th overall out of 1200 or so people. I didnt kill any cones so I was happy with my first attempt

. Mazda6's handle very well and have a lot more ability than you would think. Mazdaspeed Proteges are zippy. Falken Azenis are grippy. Best porta-potties in the known universe.

For a while I had wondered if I was being a bit excessive on this project but after attending my first performance driving/autocross event I am SURE I am on the right track. I cant wait for upcoming track days, this is the life. This project WILL be over by this month. Count on it

Gavin

**Mazda_MX6_Turbo** · 4-1-03, 18:52

for me gavin, im still working on my spring perches. i done 3 till now. im sure ill finish the 4th tomorow. o i also orderd my bump stops at the dealer. the price was 48$ for the front ones. so i just orderd 2 to put in the front, im gonna leave the ones in the back as they are. so in 2 weeks. im gonna have my stuff in my car. 2 mondays from now, im gonna have my spring break. hehe. so installation will be done that day. o also on april 12, im going to the mazda rev it up thing. i cant wait for that either. hehe. also on april 15 in my B-day, MUAHAHAHA. this is gonna be an awsome month for me.

**91maz626lx** · 4-1-03, 21:03

didn't really want to post anything just wanted to be the 100th person to do so

.....................wo.....ho.....

**gavin** · 4-2-03, 16:49

Well I have found out a bit about my Cusco mixup. Turns out the plates are for the GE(2nd gen) chassis not the GD which was listed in their catalogue(took a trip to the junkyard to figure that one out). I think the plates may also fit the Protege. Not that any of this helps me in any way

I do have an idea for the GE camber plates though. I am enlisting the help of a board member to see if my idea will work. Stay tuned

.

Speaking of board members. I managed to inherit Adamturbo's B-pillar brace

Stainless steel, one piece(the attatchment points are welded on at the angle of the b-pillars). Very strong construction

Since he now has a full rollcage he was willing to part with it. It was originally designed for the 88GT that had manual seatbelts. I may have to revert to those if I cant get the autobelts to work with it.

Hmm. I did say that I was going to get this all done by the end of the month. Didnt I?

Gavin

**AusMX6** · 4-3-03, 8:46

well damnit man don't keep us in suspen...sion

im watching this thread 24/7 these days - all so close - just wanna see someone get everything correct - especially when i'm in oz and ordering most of this stuff from the US of A

best of luck and thanks for documenting everything you have done so well

**Mazda_MX6_Turbo** · 4-3-03, 20:36

ok i was shopping around to find the best place to do alinement for my car after i lower it. well the best price i came up to till now is. 170$ USD that inclueds all 4 camber kits, and the labor and tax. i also went shopping around for tires. i got a deal on the yokohama avs e100, for 320$ USD total installed, and balanced out the door. what do u guys think?? so heres another 490$ USD. till now i've spent 830$ on tokicos+GC, 50$ for 2 bumpstops, 170$ for alinement, 320$ for tiers, and 50$ for tools and other little stuff.so total came out to be 1420$ USD till now. man thats alot. hehe.

**antiSUV** · 4-4-03, 4:23

4 camber kits? You don't need 4 camber kits. You don't even need 2. With these cars, I don't think there's much point to them. There's very little camber gain in a strut suspension. Some (most older) Hondas use them because of the double wishbone setup.

3-21-03, 20:15	#91 (permalink)
Mazda_MX6_Turbo Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: LA, california, CA, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (7)	man cutting out the perches is a pain in the a$$. it took me like 45min to cut out the first one. but it looked great after. pic man im gonna take them to some machine shop and tell them to cut them out. my drimle isnt for the job.
	BLUE 2004 MAZDA 6s Wagon RED 89 MAZDA MX6 GT turbo SOLD

3-21-03, 23:50	#92 (permalink)
gavin Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: santa cruz.ca iTrader: (1)	Yeah. The grinding of the perches can be a beast. You arent using a cordless Dremmel are you? Its gotta be a corded Dremmel with the burly reinforced cutoff wheels(you'll need a couple of them) Or you could cheat Gavin Last edited by gavin : 8-28-04 at 22:31.

3-22-03, 0:17	#93 (permalink)
NPA! Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Harrisburg, nPA! iTrader: (0)	that's a nice shoe you've got there
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3-22-03, 16:24	#95 (permalink)
Mazda_MX6_Turbo Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: LA, california, CA, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (7)	well this will be the dremel im useing. o btw its not cordless. hehe my dremel
	BLUE 2004 MAZDA 6s Wagon RED 89 MAZDA MX6 GT turbo SOLD

3-24-03, 19:57	#97 (permalink)
gavin Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: santa cruz.ca iTrader: (1)	swaybars and bushing info evo626 and 1988riceburner. this post is for you(and just about anyone else reading this post) Other happenings.. I have found a place to order my swaybars. 22mm fronts and 20mm rears (BMF32, BMR47) from Whiteline (www.whiteline.com.au). The bars are relatively cheap at 109$ apiece. Shipping depends on where you live. They are an Australian company well known in Subaru circles. They are available through MRT performance in the US. They have a listing of Shops in the US that distrubute their products. http://www.whiteline.com.au/dealers_usa.htm I ordered mine through 185performance.com , a shop in colorado that deals with toyotas. They were prompt, knew the products and were quick with information. They normally consolidate orders monthly to save on shipping costs from australia. Their next order goes out within the next 2 weeks, shipping from australia is 3-4 weeks. MRT also distributes www.superpro.com.au . Urethane suspension bushings. They have a fitment for the FRONT ONLY for the 1st gen MX6(626GD). I have these on my car now. They are very nice pieces. SPF1278-80k(front control arm bushing/front), SPF1278-70(front control arm bushing/rear). A lot of folks here like to drag their cars. With 12-15yr old bushings the front control arms will deflect a lot and get sloppy. At its worst the arms will toe in and cause darty handling on takeoff and high speed. I would say that bushings(or new control arms) are a must to maintain correct alignment of the control arms. It was interesting to note that 185performance mentioned (on their own)that they can get bushings for the MX6. Perhaps they have an eye out for mazdas also? EDIT: That distributor link doesnt seem to work. Go to whiteline>how to purchace>usa. That will get you the listing of us shops that carry whieline. Gavin Last edited by gavin : 3-31-03 at 16:46.

3-22-03, 2:10	#94 (permalink)
gavin Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: santa cruz.ca iTrader: (1)	Oh man. You have no idea. I have so many pictures that have a guest appearance by my foot I look through them and it like "Thats a good shot of my(...) oops got a part of my foot in there", "And heres another pic of(...) Hmm, theres my foot again", " and another of (...) what the hell!! Its my foot again!". I swear I dont know how I do it Gavin

3-24-03, 19:09	#96 (permalink)
gavin Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: santa cruz.ca iTrader: (1)	Well I finally go word from corksport about the goofy rear camber plates I recieved. Its a TYPO. Thats right. All these years Cusco has had a typo in their catalog and no one has ever called them on it until now. Yay me Corksport has been going through their catalogs and they have found the error going back as far as 1999. What kills me is that, it seems, not one person has ordered these items in more than 4 years. Not one. How sad. I may return them and get my money back..but yet I think there may be something I can do with these plates. "necessity is the mother of invention", Hmm. Maybe. I'll have to think abouth this more. In the meanwhile I will continue with the GCs. I had put everything on pause whilst I find out what was going on with the cuscos. Gavin

3-31-03, 12:53	#98 (permalink)
1988riceburner Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Greenfield, CA Age: 24 iTrader: (0)	YOUR THE MAN GAVIN! NOW A TOAST TO YOU FOR YOUR AWESOME FINDINGS.
	1988 626 gt sedan 5/speed Kyb struts, lowered 4 inches, 2.5" magnaflow dual exhaust.

4-1-03, 18:09	#99 (permalink)
gavin Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: santa cruz.ca iTrader: (1)	Sorry I havent kept things moving here. Ive been tied up with other random happenings.....including participating in Mazdas Rev It Up over the weekend . If this event is coming to your area DO NOT miss it or I will find you and call you names like "poopiehead" Seriously though, this is the best 40$you could spend this year. It was an awesome event. www.mazdarevitup.com I finished 90th overall out of 1200 or so people. I didnt kill any cones so I was happy with my first attempt. Mazda6's handle very well and have a lot more ability than you would think. Mazdaspeed Proteges are zippy. Falken Azenis are grippy. Best porta-potties in the known universe. For a while I had wondered if I was being a bit excessive on this project but after attending my first performance driving/autocross event I am SURE I am on the right track. I cant wait for upcoming track days, this is the life. This project WILL be over by this month. Count on it Gavin Last edited by gavin : 4-1-03 at 18:17.

4-1-03, 18:52	#100 (permalink)
Mazda_MX6_Turbo Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: LA, california, CA, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (7)	for me gavin, im still working on my spring perches. i done 3 till now. im sure ill finish the 4th tomorow. o i also orderd my bump stops at the dealer. the price was 48$ for the front ones. so i just orderd 2 to put in the front, im gonna leave the ones in the back as they are. so in 2 weeks. im gonna have my stuff in my car. 2 mondays from now, im gonna have my spring break. hehe. so installation will be done that day. o also on april 12, im going to the mazda rev it up thing. i cant wait for that either. hehe. also on april 15 in my B-day, MUAHAHAHA. this is gonna be an awsome month for me.
	BLUE 2004 MAZDA 6s Wagon RED 89 MAZDA MX6 GT turbo SOLD

4-1-03, 21:03	#101 (permalink)
91maz626lx Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: va beach Age: 25 iTrader: (0)	didn't really want to post anything just wanted to be the 100th person to do so .....................wo.....ho.....
	mods:HP engine kit,9.0-1 comp pistons,act clutch,9lb flywheel,h/f oil pump,toga valve springs,napa metal head gasket,3 angle valve job,lightend pulley 2nd gen dropzone springs 2.5" drop,muffler,short shifter,cone filter,drilled and slotted zinc coated ebc's, ebc green stuff, s13 headlight(triple pro) future mods: X-KIT, mazdaspeed wheels, tokico blues, 440cc rc injectors, rear disc conversion. Units unity through sport unit-s.org

4-2-03, 16:49	#102 (permalink)
gavin Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: santa cruz.ca iTrader: (1)	Well I have found out a bit about my Cusco mixup. Turns out the plates are for the GE(2nd gen) chassis not the GD which was listed in their catalogue(took a trip to the junkyard to figure that one out). I think the plates may also fit the Protege. Not that any of this helps me in any way I do have an idea for the GE camber plates though. I am enlisting the help of a board member to see if my idea will work. Stay tuned . Speaking of board members. I managed to inherit Adamturbo's B-pillar brace Stainless steel, one piece(the attatchment points are welded on at the angle of the b-pillars). Very strong construction Since he now has a full rollcage he was willing to part with it. It was originally designed for the 88GT that had manual seatbelts. I may have to revert to those if I cant get the autobelts to work with it. Hmm. I did say that I was going to get this all done by the end of the month. Didnt I? Gavin Last edited by gavin : 12-13-03 at 18:30.

4-3-03, 8:46	#103 (permalink)
AusMX6 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Victoria, Australia iTrader: (0)	well damnit man don't keep us in suspen...sion im watching this thread 24/7 these days - all so close - just wanna see someone get everything correct - especially when i'm in oz and ordering most of this stuff from the US of A best of luck and thanks for documenting everything you have done so well

4-3-03, 20:36	#104 (permalink)
Mazda_MX6_Turbo Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: LA, california, CA, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (7)	ok i was shopping around to find the best place to do alinement for my car after i lower it. well the best price i came up to till now is. 170$ USD that inclueds all 4 camber kits, and the labor and tax. i also went shopping around for tires. i got a deal on the yokohama avs e100, for 320$ USD total installed, and balanced out the door. what do u guys think?? so heres another 490$ USD. till now i've spent 830$ on tokicos+GC, 50$ for 2 bumpstops, 170$ for alinement, 320$ for tiers, and 50$ for tools and other little stuff.so total came out to be 1420$ USD till now. man thats alot. hehe.
	BLUE 2004 MAZDA 6s Wagon RED 89 MAZDA MX6 GT turbo SOLD

4-4-03, 4:23	#105 (permalink)
antiSUV Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Georgetown, KY, USA Age: 29 iTrader: (0)	4 camber kits? You don't need 4 camber kits. You don't even need 2. With these cars, I don't think there's much point to them. There's very little camber gain in a strut suspension. Some (most older) Hondas use them because of the double wishbone setup.
	Blurry pictures hide marks left by ten-foot poles.