Got My New Computer. Sds Em3f, having fun installing it.

**evo626** · 4-2-03, 3:30

Well, I thought I was getting the sds em4-4F system, but instead I recieved the em3F system. I talked to the guy that sold it to me and he siad he could have sworn it was the 4f. I call the manufatur to see if they even supported it and they said everything was the same as the 4F system except for a few features that aren't going to effect weather I can or cant pull hp out of it. Also all the 4F stuff works on the 3F. All in all I'm very happy.
I've download the manul and have started on my project. The guy I bought it from even gave me an autometer boost gauge with the system.
So far I've pulled all the injector harrness and I'm working on swaping throttle bodies. I was using the USD tb on this motor beacuse it had extra vacum ports but the JDM tb is much better and doesn't have vacum ports. Also I have modded the air intake system and removed the VAF. It should be a few weeks before the car is up and running. I'm waiting for a friend to send me the specs for the CAS braket.
evo

**Dutch** · 4-2-03, 3:43

hey nice to see u dong this install.
im currently try to find a standalone management system as well.
im going to go for DTA. http://www.dtafast.co.uk/
could u snap some pics from the different TB's??? im curious as what u mean.
goodluck and have fun on the install.

**evo626** · 4-2-03, 3:47

TB pics
This is an old pic but the one on the right is the FE3 tb. The butterfiles are reversed and there are not vacum lines.
evo

**ausfe3tx5** · 4-2-03, 10:01

i dont know if u allready got this but maybe help u with specs etc 4 wiring up your new ecu

aus

**Dutch** · 4-2-03, 10:38

http://www.mx6.com/boardnew/showthre...ght=fe3+wiring (FE3 wiring explanation. (BF, Cam22T) and all other converting to DOHC)

**evo626** · 4-2-03, 15:49

THose specs are for the FE3 ecu. I'm doing a complete standalone but I do need the wireing specs for the F2 ecu. I need to know a few things.
IE:
How do I wire the factory tach?
How do I wire the factory temp gauge?
How do I make the check engine engine light come on when I put the car in the on position but dont turn the car "on".
How do I make thew fuel pump turn on with out wiring it to the SDS?

evo

**91maz626lx** · 4-2-03, 18:50

i was reading turbo magazine and came across an advertisement for a new programable engine management system from AEM, so i look at there web site and found that they make them for mazda miata,prodege and rx7, so my question is do you think if you bought the one for the rx7 we could adapt it to work for the fe3, i think it has all the same features as the em-4f system you guy's have and probobaly for a fraction of the cost?

**veltpak6** · 4-2-03, 20:56

Quote:

Originally posted by evo626
THose specs are for the FE3 ecu. I'm doing a complete standalone but I do need the wireing specs for the F2 ecu. I need to know a few things.
IE:
How do I wire the factory tach?
How do I wire the factory temp gauge?
How do I make the check engine engine light come on when I put the car in the on position but dont turn the car "on".
How do I make thew fuel pump turn on with out wiring it to the SDS?

evo

-Wire the Yellow/Blue wire for the tach to the output of your coil or ECU (depending on the kind you have)
-Factory Temperature guage should be unaffected, it runs directly off the sensor
-Check Engine light is junk. if u STILL want it to come on (for legal reasons) then you can wire it from a relay that will be closed when the fuel pump is not on. So whenever the fuel pump is off, the relay will turn your Check light on.
The fuel pump is controlled by the VAF... but since its gone, maybe you can use a special relay from ... say... a MAP powered stock car or something... when u turn the key ON it pressurizes the line for like 3 seconds and turns off, until you crank, that way you'll save your Injectors and fuel lines.
just some random thoughts, good luck and keep me posted on that CAS bracket, pleeeeeeeease!!!

**imagoonmx6** · 4-2-03, 23:58

Bridge the +12 from the oil light to the CEL light. Will work well to fake out the emissions people. The light will simply emulate the oil light.

~Chris

**Jbrun64** · 4-3-03, 1:04

negative side of coil for tach signal

**evo626** · 4-3-03, 1:09

Remeber I'm running coil packs. I have an out put from the ecu for that.
Anyway thanks guys that helps alot.
evo

**evo626** · 4-3-03, 3:58

I went to install the injector harrness and the injectors on the FE3 have a little notch on the plug thats off centered. The sds plug in is in the center. Should I just cut off the little tab so it will work? (I hope that made sence)
evo

**ausfe3tx5** · 4-3-03, 17:23

Quote:

Should I just cut off the little tab so it will work? (I hope that made sence)

yes just cut them off carefully i had to do the same the clips hold the connectors just fine .

**frisco204** · 4-3-03, 21:24

how is the install going evo?

**redneckmx6** · 4-4-03, 9:14

Hope those specs on the bracket are good enough for you.

Not really full size, but all the measurements are there, keep me posted if you need a picture of it

4-2-03, 3:30	#1 (permalink)
evo626 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denver Age: 26 iTrader: (0)	Got My New Computer. Sds Em3f, having fun installing it. Well, I thought I was getting the sds em4-4F system, but instead I recieved the em3F system. I talked to the guy that sold it to me and he siad he could have sworn it was the 4f. I call the manufatur to see if they even supported it and they said everything was the same as the 4F system except for a few features that aren't going to effect weather I can or cant pull hp out of it. Also all the 4F stuff works on the 3F. All in all I'm very happy. I've download the manul and have started on my project. The guy I bought it from even gave me an autometer boost gauge with the system. So far I've pulled all the injector harrness and I'm working on swaping throttle bodies. I was using the USD tb on this motor beacuse it had extra vacum ports but the JDM tb is much better and doesn't have vacum ports. Also I have modded the air intake system and removed the VAF. It should be a few weeks before the car is up and running. I'm waiting for a friend to send me the specs for the CAS braket. evo
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4-2-03, 3:47	#3 (permalink)
evo626 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denver Age: 26 iTrader: (0)	TB pics This is an old pic but the one on the right is the FE3 tb. The butterfiles are reversed and there are not vacum lines. evo
	www.anticominc.com

4-2-03, 10:01	#4 (permalink)
ausfe3tx5 Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: SYDNEY iTrader: (0)	i dont know if u allready got this but maybe help u with specs etc 4 wiring up your new ecu aus Last edited by ausfe3tx5 : 4-2-03 at 10:07.
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4-2-03, 15:49	#6 (permalink)
evo626 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denver Age: 26 iTrader: (0)	THose specs are for the FE3 ecu. I'm doing a complete standalone but I do need the wireing specs for the F2 ecu. I need to know a few things. IE: How do I wire the factory tach? How do I wire the factory temp gauge? How do I make the check engine engine light come on when I put the car in the on position but dont turn the car "on". How do I make thew fuel pump turn on with out wiring it to the SDS? evo
	www.anticominc.com

4-2-03, 18:50	#7 (permalink)
91maz626lx Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: va beach Age: 25 iTrader: (0)	i was reading turbo magazine and came across an advertisement for a new programable engine management system from AEM, so i look at there web site and found that they make them for mazda miata,prodege and rx7, so my question is do you think if you bought the one for the rx7 we could adapt it to work for the fe3, i think it has all the same features as the em-4f system you guy's have and probobaly for a fraction of the cost? Last edited by 91maz626lx : 4-2-03 at 18:53.
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4-2-03, 23:58	#9 (permalink)
imagoonmx6 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Chicagoland IL Age: 28 iTrader: (0)	Bridge the +12 from the oil light to the CEL light. Will work well to fake out the emissions people. The light will simply emulate the oil light. ~Chris
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4-3-03, 1:04	#10 (permalink)
Jbrun64 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NVA (www.allnva.com) iTrader: (0)	negative side of coil for tach signal
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4-3-03, 1:09	#11 (permalink)
evo626 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denver Age: 26 iTrader: (0)	Remeber I'm running coil packs. I have an out put from the ecu for that. Anyway thanks guys that helps alot. evo
	www.anticominc.com

4-3-03, 3:58	#12 (permalink)
evo626 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Denver Age: 26 iTrader: (0)	I went to install the injector harrness and the injectors on the FE3 have a little notch on the plug thats off centered. The sds plug in is in the center. Should I just cut off the little tab so it will work? (I hope that made sence) evo
	www.anticominc.com

4-3-03, 21:24	#14 (permalink)
frisco204 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Winnipeg Age: 25 iTrader: (0)	how is the install going evo?
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4-4-03, 9:14	#15 (permalink)
redneckmx6 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: about 2 1/2 feet above the top of your sisters head Age: 28 iTrader: (6)	Hope those specs on the bracket are good enough for you. Not really full size, but all the measurements are there, keep me posted if you need a picture of it
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