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MS lacks control? MS1 on high res is decent, but not brilliant. MS2 is better than a lot of the big dollar ECUs out there! You say it lacks adjustability? Base ms2 has more than 1000 adjustable items!! MS2Extra has even more. More is not necessarily = better either! Honing the main basic tables etc to a fine level is the way to go. After that the various trims do very little.
Most of the big names just throw hp/money at the problem and use massive tables = takes ages to tune. MS tables have adjustable axis such that you can fit your data points to the curve of response much better. 12x12 with movable bins > 20x20 without!
Basically, MS2Extra kicks arse (for now mu ha ha ha) and is an excellent choice if you don't require sequential (more than 200hp/litre on a single set of injectors = sequential is a good idea, but people make much more than that and are happy... staged injectors are a good alternative for those who want stupid power levels and daily drivability)
The quality of the box is as good as the dude that stuck it together. Mine is excellent. They are as reliable as the dude that stuck it together. Time will tell about me ;-)
Locking maps... strange concept. Any map is specific to the exact setup on the car anyway. Anyone that puts in a base tune and walks away does not deserve to be paid for it.
It's not hard to tune from scratch and it's not rocket science.
I didn't even read a lot of that, but MS2 = FTW regardless of price up to 200hp/litre or beyond with staged injection.
Turk, next time something like this is getting one sided, flick me a link :-)
Fred.
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