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Old 5-18-08, 15:42   #20 (permalink)
Mike 94PGT
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Originally Posted by maffatato15 View Post
you can make a stock mx6 fast by spending a couple hundred (exhaust and boost controller, maybe chipped ecu). You say by a turbo kit for a mustang for 6 grand? I wanna see an mx6 with 6 grand worth of mods because it doesnt take much to make a 1st gen fast. Like what was said before, speed costs money and you can make anything happen with money.
And at some point you butt up against the ugly reality of a peg-leg front wheel drive platform that's getting on for 20 years of age. All the power in the world won't do much good if you're spinning one wheel or in the weeds due to torque steer. And if you want high power from that small turbo motor you'll most likely have to live with tons of lag in town as is usually the case with BT, small-displacement motors. Makes for good streetfire "rolling start" races I guess but not alot of fun or all that responsive in town where most people spend 90% of their time.

There's nothing stopping anyone from spending any amount of money on anything they want: You could put turbos on a Z06, a $4000 Kenne Bell twin-screw blower or a Hellion single- or twin-turbo kit on a Mustang, a BT on a GTI or MX6, a Hyabusa engine in a smart car etc. People will mod what they have and swear to high-heaven that theirs is the best platform eVaR 'cause you can get really good performance by doing <insert mod here>. In the big picture though, there's a law of diminishing returns, especially when physical realities are considered. An Evo is not a particularly, spectacularly powerful (from the factory) car but its AWD drivetrain allows the thing to run sub-5-sec 0-60 drags. A Mustang with some 315s out back and a few simple mods under the hood could approach this but a front-wheel drive car powerful enough to theoretically get to 60 that fast will most likely be hopelessly traction limited and if it does have traction with fat DRs in the front, its transmission and half-shafts are at risk.

So okay, let me rephrase things a little: There will always be someone faster and there will always be someone starting with a better platform for a given task.

Given the cars in question here, if I wanted a drag racer I'd simply much rather start with a rear drive platform with a heavy duty drivetrain and a good reserve of cubes under the hood; good N/A and even better with forced induction. For a year-round commuter I'd rather start with a small, FWD car, preferably with a small, responsive turbo; I'd tighten the suspension a bit and up the power but not at the expense of lag, balance or economy.

Sorry, but putting $6K worth of power mods into a later model Mustang, while not something I would personally do right now, still makes way more sense to me than doing the same thing to a front-wheel drive car built when Dubya's dad was in the Oval Office.

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