Thread: E85 upgrade.
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Old 6-21-08, 15:19   #10 (permalink)
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As you pointed out in the Wikipedia "article" and "facts" you posted, it is not as efficient
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Actualy the article said E85 has the potential to be more eficient than gasoline. Like I said read up.

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and is still costing more for most people for less over all range from their vehicle.
Because they dont drive E85/ethanol specific vehicles.

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Because of these two things, it will never gain mass appeal to consumers. And still, E85 has gasoline in it, and therefore not even a true alternative.
I never said it was.

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Fuel cells are much more likely to take the place of gasoline,
And where do we get all this hydrogen from? There is no free hydrogen on this planet.

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and if hydrogen motors advance past the new Honda model quickly, hydrogen will rapidly take the market (as long as they can keep up with power demands).
Hydrogen fuel cells have been around for decades. They are definitely in the future but they wont take over.


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And really, in a world of growing population and in many cases overcrowding, do you really think we should be devoting farm land to growing fuel, decreasing the over all food production? Supply and demand should not be too hard of a concept even for a high schooler.
For the third and last time ethanol production has little to no effect on food prices.

If your so concerned then stop eating meat. Like I have allready said most of the corn produced goes to feed for livestock. Add the land required for the livestock it's self and the drastic net loss associated with livestock production and it's obvious that meat is very inefficient and wastefull.

Having said that I aint giving up meat.


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Also, the 7-11 units of carbon based fuels to one unit of ethanol based fuel is only the ratio for production, not including transportation, this is the result of a study published in an engineering journal, or i would link it for you.
Ethanol is no more expensive to produce than any other alcahol. Prices will drop for it while gas prices can only go up in the long haul.


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If E85 ever becomes what you think it is, it will take immense amounts of land, as projected in other studies. Reading Wikipedia and then telling someone to "read up" makes you look like a jack ass.

You dont know what I think it will become.

I KNOW we wont have the type of energy economy we have had for the last century. It wont be based on a single fuel source (fossil fuel) and will be a more competitive market for it.

The article I posted is one of many. That information was out there for you to find from many other sources if you had bothered to look.

I was just showing that there is a lot of information there if you look.

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