Serious injector problem

**cf_z** · 10-7-07, 21:04

i am litterally in the middle of turbocharging my 94 v6 mx6. i knew i had to get bigger injectors, so i went ahead (after searching around here and gathering info) and got some nissan 270cc red tops (coudnt get ahold of millenia s's). Got a bored out rail too. I did a continuety (?) test and figured out where to wire them up into the stock clips. To put it simply, it ran like absolute [shizzle]. It was boggy when i accerated, and it would die if i let it idle while still moving. It seemed to be running WAAY rich, but could 50cc really be that big of a difference? This was yesterday, and i parked it and got to work. Got all the exhaust/oil lines in, and tomorrow just gotta do up the intake system (no intercooler. only 4psi) I didnt think it wuold be bad after the turbo, but then i realized at idle it will be the same. Is this normal? 50cc isnt much so i highly doubt it should run THIS crappy. At 4 psi how bad wuold it be to run the stockies (never rev past 5 ish?) Can anyone help me??

**KING6** · 10-7-07, 22:10

Cant run the nissans with out a MS

**cf_z** · 10-7-07, 22:36

well it doesnt seem like anyone wants to help me with getting a hold of a megasquirt around here. Can you explain why it wont work w/ stock? can you answer my question on the running with the stock ones? Thanks alot.

**RangerRick** · 10-7-07, 22:44

Uhhh......have you talked to Radar or Fastest95PGT?

Both are more than willing to help with MS, last I checked....

-Kris

**Turk** · 10-7-07, 23:17

Running with the stockies at 4psi should be ok. Just dont drive hard like you said. like Ranger Rick said, msg either of them and get a quote. Well worth your time and money.

**cf_z** · 10-8-07, 7:18

i already have messaged radar. he didnt respond (dont know if its because im still a 'new memeber' or not. he prolly thought i wasnt serious?) Isnt there a pretty long waiting list for them?. I istatlled both the walbro 255, and vortech fmu (but w/o the injectors i guess those dont do much....) last week and they both work good. so i guess i'll have to run the stocks untill i get some millenia s's

**Turk** · 10-8-07, 8:24

Run the Stocks until you get a megasquirt, not until you get millenia's

**cf_z** · 10-8-07, 12:35

ok well do you know when i am gonna max out the stock injectors with 4psi (w/ the walbro 255 and 12:1 FMU?) still need help with more info on the megasquirts.. how hard are they to install ? i looked at the bulk buys on pt but aparently it is no longer in effect.

**Turk** · 10-8-07, 20:55

I think he is still taking orders, definately worth a try. Im sure he isnt going to say no to money lol

. It will be worth the wait.

Megasquirt is easy to install, just need to buy an IAT sensor for like $20 and either get a wideband to tune (about $250) or take it to a dyno shop and use there wideband. To install all it is is soldering about 15 wires and there are DETAILED instructions.

I know because I got mine.

If you drive around at 4psi on stockers it should be fine. Just dont hit boost and dont rev hard.

**cf_z** · 10-8-07, 22:25

ok cool i finally got him to respond. i think the standard unit is what i'll end up getting. im assuming i'll be able to have it tuned by someone in town. hopefully i'll be able to get it in myself.

i'de give you both this so called 'karma' ive heard all about, but ive never learned how to do it/figured out what it even was

hopefully i'll find out how to post pics too. it will be completed tomorrow and im kinda hyped to post some pics sence im pretty sure i'll be the youngest (self installed... mostly ) 2nd gen f/i mx6 LS member on here (at least i think...)
thanks alot.

**Turk** · 10-8-07, 23:46

I was going for youngest!

nar just playing nice work man. Ill just be the youngest in Australia then

.

I got the standard unit as well, if you dont intend on using coil packs, it is fine.

Yer lets see some pics mate.

And for future referenace Karma is that little tick/cross in between the 3 buttons under the user name. It will come up with a comment box and whether you want to give positive or negative karma.

**cf_z** · 10-9-07, 7:18

aahaa!. figured it out. you got yourself some too! thanks for the help. hopefully later today i'll be finished and get to the picture taking.

thanks again

10-7-07, 21:04	#1 (permalink)
cf_z Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NE Indiana, USA Age: 18 iTrader: (14)	Serious injector problem i am litterally in the middle of turbocharging my 94 v6 mx6. i knew i had to get bigger injectors, so i went ahead (after searching around here and gathering info) and got some nissan 270cc red tops (coudnt get ahold of millenia s's). Got a bored out rail too. I did a continuety (?) test and figured out where to wire them up into the stock clips. To put it simply, it ran like absolute [shizzle]. It was boggy when i accerated, and it would die if i let it idle while still moving. It seemed to be running WAAY rich, but could 50cc really be that big of a difference? This was yesterday, and i parked it and got to work. Got all the exhaust/oil lines in, and tomorrow just gotta do up the intake system (no intercooler. only 4psi) I didnt think it wuold be bad after the turbo, but then i realized at idle it will be the same. Is this normal? 50cc isnt much so i highly doubt it should run THIS crappy. At 4 psi how bad wuold it be to run the stockies (never rev past 5 ish?) Can anyone help me??
	MY SIX, since-day-one. WTB:2g Rear Sway bar & Strut Bar PM me. g-meter'd at 65 HP haller.

10-7-07, 22:10	#2 (permalink)
KING6 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Central, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (21)	Cant run the nissans with out a MS
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10-7-07, 22:36	#3 (permalink)
cf_z Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NE Indiana, USA Age: 18 iTrader: (14)	well it doesnt seem like anyone wants to help me with getting a hold of a megasquirt around here. Can you explain why it wont work w/ stock? can you answer my question on the running with the stock ones? Thanks alot. Last edited by cf_z : 10-7-07 at 22:40. Reason: wrong.
	MY SIX, since-day-one. WTB:2g Rear Sway bar & Strut Bar PM me. g-meter'd at 65 HP haller.

10-7-07, 22:44	#4 (permalink)
RangerRick Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Newport News, VA, USA iTrader: (0)	Uhhh......have you talked to Radar or Fastest95PGT? Both are more than willing to help with MS, last I checked.... -Kris
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10-7-07, 23:17	#5 (permalink)
Turk Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 iTrader: (5)	Running with the stockies at 4psi should be ok. Just dont drive hard like you said. like Ranger Rick said, msg either of them and get a quote. Well worth your time and money.
	174kw at 9psi KLDE-T

10-8-07, 7:18	#6 (permalink)
cf_z Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NE Indiana, USA Age: 18 iTrader: (14)	i already have messaged radar. he didnt respond (dont know if its because im still a 'new memeber' or not. he prolly thought i wasnt serious?) Isnt there a pretty long waiting list for them?. I istatlled both the walbro 255, and vortech fmu (but w/o the injectors i guess those dont do much....) last week and they both work good. so i guess i'll have to run the stocks untill i get some millenia s's
	MY SIX, since-day-one. WTB:2g Rear Sway bar & Strut Bar PM me. g-meter'd at 65 HP haller.

10-8-07, 8:24	#7 (permalink)
Turk Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 iTrader: (5)	Run the Stocks until you get a megasquirt, not until you get millenia's
	174kw at 9psi KLDE-T

10-8-07, 12:35	#8 (permalink)
cf_z Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NE Indiana, USA Age: 18 iTrader: (14)	ok well do you know when i am gonna max out the stock injectors with 4psi (w/ the walbro 255 and 12:1 FMU?) still need help with more info on the megasquirts.. how hard are they to install ? i looked at the bulk buys on pt but aparently it is no longer in effect.
	MY SIX, since-day-one. WTB:2g Rear Sway bar & Strut Bar PM me. g-meter'd at 65 HP haller.

10-8-07, 20:55	#9 (permalink)
Turk Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 iTrader: (5)	I think he is still taking orders, definately worth a try. Im sure he isnt going to say no to money lol . It will be worth the wait. Megasquirt is easy to install, just need to buy an IAT sensor for like $20 and either get a wideband to tune (about $250) or take it to a dyno shop and use there wideband. To install all it is is soldering about 15 wires and there are DETAILED instructions. I know because I got mine. If you drive around at 4psi on stockers it should be fine. Just dont hit boost and dont rev hard.
	174kw at 9psi KLDE-T

10-8-07, 22:25	#10 (permalink)
cf_z Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NE Indiana, USA Age: 18 iTrader: (14)	ok cool i finally got him to respond. i think the standard unit is what i'll end up getting. im assuming i'll be able to have it tuned by someone in town. hopefully i'll be able to get it in myself. i'de give you both this so called 'karma' ive heard all about, but ive never learned how to do it/figured out what it even was hopefully i'll find out how to post pics too. it will be completed tomorrow and im kinda hyped to post some pics sence im pretty sure i'll be the youngest (self installed... mostly ) 2nd gen f/i mx6 LS member on here (at least i think...) thanks alot.
	MY SIX, since-day-one. WTB:2g Rear Sway bar & Strut Bar PM me. g-meter'd at 65 HP haller.

10-8-07, 23:46	#11 (permalink)
Turk Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 iTrader: (5)	I was going for youngest! nar just playing nice work man. Ill just be the youngest in Australia then . I got the standard unit as well, if you dont intend on using coil packs, it is fine. Yer lets see some pics mate. And for future referenace Karma is that little tick/cross in between the 3 buttons under the user name. It will come up with a comment box and whether you want to give positive or negative karma.
	174kw at 9psi KLDE-T

10-9-07, 7:18	#12 (permalink)
cf_z Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: NE Indiana, USA Age: 18 iTrader: (14)	aahaa!. figured it out. you got yourself some too! thanks for the help. hopefully later today i'll be finished and get to the picture taking. thanks again
	MY SIX, since-day-one. WTB:2g Rear Sway bar & Strut Bar PM me. g-meter'd at 65 HP haller.