Ima noob but looking to learn a lot

winkdogydog101 · 4-24-08, 2:01

ok here is the deal i learned a lot about my camaro and carb engines with my last car i got this little econemy mx6 thats been pretty good too be honestly. i thought at first it was the biggest peice of garabe but now i see that the way ive been treating it and it has not problems other then i need to replace the water pump soon

the car is mx6 ls v6 with 170k the front bumber is a little jacked up and the hood closes but theres a half inch gap. the back bumber is bumped up but nothing i was thinking a body kit couldnt fix.

OK so heres my retarded questions

i want to turbo it and do must of the work my self i have also never turboed a car or really got into the real work of forced induction. tho i heard its easier then camming out and working on carb engines

im not looking for much more then stage 2 stuff

can i have headers if the turbo mounts to the engine

whats the best way to go about getting all the stuff i want to have an intercooler as well blow off vaulve, boost contor, and all the other stuff im missing

ok if someone could walk me through the steps of getting this i would really appericate it

also including all that was going to replace my drivers side door its jacked up and the window doesnt roll up or down its just stuck up.

i also want to put in some conferdable bucket seats cause my army base is 100s one way.

but all that can wait i really need help with the turbo system right now.

please get back to me

winkdogydog101 · 4-24-08, 15:28

up
can some one please help me out with this

Tem · 4-24-08, 15:49

Be a little patient man. and the very first thing I'd recomend is searching use the site's search option.. TUrboing is in no way an easy or simple job and its not cheap by any means.

Also I'd check that engine and see how good it is as is... since you dont want ot turbo a stocker with low compression. and I'd start off with headers and exhaust before even debating turbo. but dooing a little search on it will help lots and there is a book called Maximum Boost if you're truely intrested in learning turbo I'd read that book...

**BOYZERO** · 4-24-08, 16:10

do your maintinece all around first and fix your body making it look a little decent at least.

do a compression check and update or replace all your major motor/trans components(water pump, timing belt, clutch/flywheel, etc)

dont boost this car in the condition you are describing cuz then people will look at you the way you looked at ricers with beat up hatches and loud exhaust.

id try to do a lil research for this. but we are glad to help. try this link it gives you an idea. let me know if it doenst work......

read this whole site............
Ross' Probe GT Performance Page

then read up on the install......scroll down and read the steps.
My Turbo Installation

takes time and money...beleive me.

it took me over a year to build my kit and finally im ready to install it after i put in my clutch and flywhl......and over 2500 on kit itself. plus all maintenence and aftermarket parts. and over 7k invested. and it still looks stock.

and of course, a KLZE (jdm swap) is another alternative for you with those miles. search.

winkdogydog101 · 4-25-08, 15:51

i got to disagree on the ricer thing because if i suppd up ricer with no go is even more redickulous cause everyone wants to race you and then im still doing 18 second 1/4 miles

but i will look into that site i thank you and hope im not being a jerk by saying that im just into racing but i will make it look nice but after its where i want it for speed.

im thinking of getting a stage 3 turbo kit but want to know the compression rate is should have for the kit it comes with pretty much everything but gauges and a boost controller its got a blow of vaule but i like the contoller better

**BOYZERO** · 4-26-08, 0:13

stock compression is ok. if you spend more than 3k for the turbo kit its not worth it. depends if you get name brand stuff though, where are you sourcing your stage 3

winkdogydog101 · 4-28-08, 2:11

ebay its got nothing but good reviews it comes with a full kit

eBay Motors: 93-97 MAZDA MX6 T3T4 AR50 CUSTOM TURBO CHARGER KIT NEW (item 380012893977 end time Apr-30-08 12:27:42 PDT)

it seems to have everything i need

winkdogydog101 · 4-28-08, 2:14

i can do most of the work just not the turbo timing and all the other settings and i dont have access to a lift or a lot of the tools i think i can borrow my friends dads place he owns a tanny store

**BOYZERO** · 4-28-08, 3:27

well, theres more to it.

this is what else you will need:

Fmu,
battery relocation kit,
fuel pump,
guages,
still have to get the hot pipes and bolts and gasket set,
if you want to reduce temps, id get header wrap for pipes,
custom intake piping,
modify the cross member,
maybe a fuel pressure regulator,
but check out the site i gave you for referance, and please read everything again and again.

how much are you willing to spend on a 'whole kit'?

02kyle · 4-28-08, 3:39

ok man well first off if you read the stickeys it tells you what you need to boost. from the sounds of it you really dont know much about boost. if you dont know about it then you need to learn or it will cost you a ton in the end! lots of time work and money go into boost. and if you are going to cheap out expect issues. cheap parts are made just that same way cheap. what you need to do is get good parts, and have someone who knows what they are doing put them in. also a big thing is the tune. you have to get a tune done, you can run a dirty tune for a bit but that will kill your car long run. first thing you need to do is make sure all the parts on the car are in good shape. anything that is ready to go the extra stress will finish it off!

like I said man first thing is first, read up. boost may sound like a good idea, but sounds like spray is better for you man. get a wet kit and a wot switch and you got the power you want. if you are set on boost then break out the reading glasses and go to town

Tem · 4-28-08, 14:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02kyle

ok man well first off if you read the stickeys it tells you what you need to boost. from the sounds of it you really dont know much about boost. if you dont know about it then you need to learn or it will cost you a ton in the end! lots of time work and money go into boost. and if you are going to cheap out expect issues. cheap parts are made just that same way cheap. what you need to do is get good parts, and have someone who knows what they are doing put them in. also a big thing is the tune. you have to get a tune done, you can run a dirty tune for a bit but that will kill your car long run. first thing you need to do is make sure all the parts on the car are in good shape. anything that is ready to go the extra stress will finish it off!

like I said man first thing is first, read up. boost may sound like a good idea, but sounds like spray is better for you man. get a wet kit and a wot switch and you got the power you want. if you are set on boost then break out the reading glasses and go to town

what do you mean cheap parts.. I'm planning on buying el cheapo primary/hotpipes .. lol what parts can I NOT buy el cheapo ..

02kyle · 4-28-08, 23:18

the turbo dude. they are chep cuz they are made cheap! there are some on here who got ebay turbos and they are ok for now... lots get them put them on and BOOM! they smoke like crazy! it is a chance and when it come to the main part of the fi going cheap is not the best idea. if you are going to do something do it right the first time around. better than spending the money twice. and if you have ever got cheap parts for you car then you know that cheap is a pain in the ass!

think of it like this, you get a rolex out of some guys trunk in new york, it stops working in a day and you are shocked about that? lol! cheap means just that cheap. there is a reason that if you look at the ebay turbos they (if you are lucky) will stand be hind the part for 3 months.

Tem · 4-29-08, 0:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02kyle

the turbo dude. they are chep cuz they are made cheap! there are some on here who got ebay turbos and they are ok for now... lots get them put them on and BOOM! they smoke like crazy! it is a chance and when it come to the main part of the fi going cheap is not the best idea. if you are going to do something do it right the first time around. better than spending the money twice. and if you have ever got cheap parts for you car then you know that cheap is a pain in the ass!

think of it like this, you get a rolex out of some guys trunk in new york, it stops working in a day and you are shocked about that? lol! cheap means just that cheap. there is a reason that if you look at the ebay turbos they (if you are lucky) will stand be hind the part for 3 months.

ahh lol ok I was gonna buy my turbo from zach anyway =) but the pipes can be cheapo right? lol how abotu the BOV ? and the only cheap part I got for my car were the sparkplug wires and not by choice its hte only ones they had... and they are falling apart already this was like 2 months ago so yes I'm not a fan of cheap parts ... but himm its just difficult ot pass this up ..

eBay Motors: Ford Probe Mazda MX-6 Turbo Manifold Header Joint Pipe (item 250231579417 end time Apr-29-08 19:23:54 PDT) I have pace setter headers so I need new primarys and this price is kinda hard to beat... but I'm still not really sold yet.

02kyle · 4-29-08, 2:27

your pipes yes. you will be fine on that. think of it like this when it comes to cheap parts on the turbo kit. if you know what the bov does do you want to run the risk of that not working right? also the waste gate.. do you want to run the risk of that not working right? the answere is no. when it comes to your fule, your turbo, and things to let pressure out cheap is a bad idea!

Tem · 4-29-08, 14:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by 02kyle

your pipes yes. you will be fine on that. think of it like this when it comes to cheap parts on the turbo kit. if you know what the bov does do you want to run the risk of that not working right? also the waste gate.. do you want to run the risk of that not working right? the answere is no. when it comes to your fule, your turbo, and things to let pressure out cheap is a bad idea!

touche. thats a good point.. well intercooler is the other thing.. but I havent found any cheap intercoolers for the 6 so.. lol

4-24-08, 2:01	#1 (permalink)
winkdogydog101 New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Age: 20 iTrader: (0)	Ima noob but looking to learn a lot ok here is the deal i learned a lot about my camaro and carb engines with my last car i got this little econemy mx6 thats been pretty good too be honestly. i thought at first it was the biggest peice of garabe but now i see that the way ive been treating it and it has not problems other then i need to replace the water pump soon the car is mx6 ls v6 with 170k the front bumber is a little jacked up and the hood closes but theres a half inch gap. the back bumber is bumped up but nothing i was thinking a body kit couldnt fix. OK so heres my retarded questions i want to turbo it and do must of the work my self i have also never turboed a car or really got into the real work of forced induction. tho i heard its easier then camming out and working on carb engines im not looking for much more then stage 2 stuff can i have headers if the turbo mounts to the engine whats the best way to go about getting all the stuff i want to have an intercooler as well blow off vaulve, boost contor, and all the other stuff im missing ok if someone could walk me through the steps of getting this i would really appericate it also including all that was going to replace my drivers side door its jacked up and the window doesnt roll up or down its just stuck up. i also want to put in some conferdable bucket seats cause my army base is 100s one way. but all that can wait i really need help with the turbo system right now. please get back to me

4-24-08, 15:28	#2 (permalink)
winkdogydog101 New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Age: 20 iTrader: (0)	up up can some one please help me out with this

4-24-08, 15:49	#3 (permalink)
Tem Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Miami, FL, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (0)	Be a little patient man. and the very first thing I'd recomend is searching use the site's search option.. TUrboing is in no way an easy or simple job and its not cheap by any means. Also I'd check that engine and see how good it is as is... since you dont want ot turbo a stocker with low compression. and I'd start off with headers and exhaust before even debating turbo. but dooing a little search on it will help lots and there is a book called Maximum Boost if you're truely intrested in learning turbo I'd read that book...
	Everything thats dangerous is Fun! But not everything thats fun is dangerous! 93 MX-6 LS http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3041999

4-24-08, 16:10	#4 (permalink)
BOYZERO Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: , IL, USA Age: 28 iTrader: (1)	do your maintinece all around first and fix your body making it look a little decent at least. do a compression check and update or replace all your major motor/trans components(water pump, timing belt, clutch/flywheel, etc) dont boost this car in the condition you are describing cuz then people will look at you the way you looked at ricers with beat up hatches and loud exhaust. id try to do a lil research for this. but we are glad to help. try this link it gives you an idea. let me know if it doenst work...... read this whole site............ Ross' Probe GT Performance Page then read up on the install......scroll down and read the steps. My Turbo Installation takes time and money...beleive me. it took me over a year to build my kit and finally im ready to install it after i put in my clutch and flywhl......and over 2500 on kit itself. plus all maintenence and aftermarket parts. and over 7k invested. and it still looks stock. and of course, a KLZE (jdm swap) is another alternative for you with those miles. search.
	93 MX6 LS,Xtreme ecu,cai,ze im,port matched phenos,ngk wires/irid plugs,180 stat,udp,ss headers,2.5in exhaust w/hooker aero chamber muffler w/3in tip,S2 clutch,11lb flywhl,strut bars,eibachs,monroes,awr f/r mm,awr sway bar kit,bm shifter w/rr-racing bushings. 1/4=15.0@92.5 http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...lipboyzero.jpg-timeslip-stock cat,ecu,clutch/flwhl

4-25-08, 15:51	#5 (permalink)
winkdogydog101 New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Age: 20 iTrader: (0)	thanks i got to disagree on the ricer thing because if i suppd up ricer with no go is even more redickulous cause everyone wants to race you and then im still doing 18 second 1/4 miles but i will look into that site i thank you and hope im not being a jerk by saying that im just into racing but i will make it look nice but after its where i want it for speed. im thinking of getting a stage 3 turbo kit but want to know the compression rate is should have for the kit it comes with pretty much everything but gauges and a boost controller its got a blow of vaule but i like the contoller better

4-26-08, 0:13	#6 (permalink)
BOYZERO Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: , IL, USA Age: 28 iTrader: (1)	stock compression is ok. if you spend more than 3k for the turbo kit its not worth it. depends if you get name brand stuff though, where are you sourcing your stage 3
	93 MX6 LS,Xtreme ecu,cai,ze im,port matched phenos,ngk wires/irid plugs,180 stat,udp,ss headers,2.5in exhaust w/hooker aero chamber muffler w/3in tip,S2 clutch,11lb flywhl,strut bars,eibachs,monroes,awr f/r mm,awr sway bar kit,bm shifter w/rr-racing bushings. 1/4=15.0@92.5 http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...lipboyzero.jpg-timeslip-stock cat,ecu,clutch/flwhl

4-28-08, 2:11	#7 (permalink)
winkdogydog101 New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Age: 20 iTrader: (0)	ebay ebay its got nothing but good reviews it comes with a full kit eBay Motors: 93-97 MAZDA MX6 T3T4 AR50 CUSTOM TURBO CHARGER KIT NEW (item 380012893977 end time Apr-30-08 12:27:42 PDT) it seems to have everything i need

4-28-08, 2:14	#8 (permalink)
winkdogydog101 New Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Age: 20 iTrader: (0)	i i can do most of the work just not the turbo timing and all the other settings and i dont have access to a lift or a lot of the tools i think i can borrow my friends dads place he owns a tanny store

4-28-08, 3:27	#9 (permalink)
BOYZERO Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: , IL, USA Age: 28 iTrader: (1)	well, theres more to it. this is what else you will need: Fmu, battery relocation kit, fuel pump, guages, still have to get the hot pipes and bolts and gasket set, if you want to reduce temps, id get header wrap for pipes, custom intake piping, modify the cross member, maybe a fuel pressure regulator, but check out the site i gave you for referance, and please read everything again and again. how much are you willing to spend on a 'whole kit'?
	93 MX6 LS,Xtreme ecu,cai,ze im,port matched phenos,ngk wires/irid plugs,180 stat,udp,ss headers,2.5in exhaust w/hooker aero chamber muffler w/3in tip,S2 clutch,11lb flywhl,strut bars,eibachs,monroes,awr f/r mm,awr sway bar kit,bm shifter w/rr-racing bushings. 1/4=15.0@92.5 http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...lipboyzero.jpg-timeslip-stock cat,ecu,clutch/flwhl

4-28-08, 3:39	#10 (permalink)
02kyle Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: columbus,ohio, OSU!!, OH, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (1)	ok man well first off if you read the stickeys it tells you what you need to boost. from the sounds of it you really dont know much about boost. if you dont know about it then you need to learn or it will cost you a ton in the end! lots of time work and money go into boost. and if you are going to cheap out expect issues. cheap parts are made just that same way cheap. what you need to do is get good parts, and have someone who knows what they are doing put them in. also a big thing is the tune. you have to get a tune done, you can run a dirty tune for a bit but that will kill your car long run. first thing you need to do is make sure all the parts on the car are in good shape. anything that is ready to go the extra stress will finish it off! like I said man first thing is first, read up. boost may sound like a good idea, but sounds like spray is better for you man. get a wet kit and a wot switch and you got the power you want. if you are set on boost then break out the reading glasses and go to town

4-28-08, 23:18	#12 (permalink)
02kyle Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: columbus,ohio, OSU!!, OH, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (1)	the turbo dude. they are chep cuz they are made cheap! there are some on here who got ebay turbos and they are ok for now... lots get them put them on and BOOM! they smoke like crazy! it is a chance and when it come to the main part of the fi going cheap is not the best idea. if you are going to do something do it right the first time around. better than spending the money twice. and if you have ever got cheap parts for you car then you know that cheap is a pain in the ass! think of it like this, you get a rolex out of some guys trunk in new york, it stops working in a day and you are shocked about that? lol! cheap means just that cheap. there is a reason that if you look at the ebay turbos they (if you are lucky) will stand be hind the part for 3 months.

4-29-08, 2:27	#14 (permalink)
02kyle Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: columbus,ohio, OSU!!, OH, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (1)	your pipes yes. you will be fine on that. think of it like this when it comes to cheap parts on the turbo kit. if you know what the bov does do you want to run the risk of that not working right? also the waste gate.. do you want to run the risk of that not working right? the answere is no. when it comes to your fule, your turbo, and things to let pressure out cheap is a bad idea!