Mazda Mx-6 Questions

[MEMPHIS]

Ok no, shoot that ze again.
Heres what i think. Who cares about looks right now.
I have enough $$ to turbo it. And thats what I am gonna do!
But i aint, I will have a shop do it.
So what is the best turbo kit out there? Brand name?

Oh and I thought that the 1997 ls put out 174hp?
Thanks all the help you can give me is great!

[02kyle]

there is really no "kit" for the mx6. you can build one. they make the pipes and you can get all the parts to do it.

as for the ze, it is the motor in the jap mx6 man. you can get them in the us easly. many guys on here have them. as far as the ecu you can use the a spec (I think) I have a 2.0 so I dont know that much bout the 2.5. but you can get the j spec ecu or you can get the chip to go into the a spec ecu. search for klze and poke around see what you will find.

and looks matter I dont want to drive a car that looks like [shizzle], so mine is fast and looks damn good!

[guitardude1568]

Pretty much anything your gonna buy your gonna have to modify it to get it to fit right. You can get a kit off ebay, but sometimes the oil seals go out on the turbo. I believe thats what cf_z used, and i dont know that he has had problems with his turbo yet.

There was a bulk buy going on on probe talk with pipes that were supposed to bolt right up, i think for the kit that came with a turbo, and wastegate i dont remember what else, but that was 675 then shipping was 80 i believe. I dont know if he is still selling them but its worth a try for not having to go through hell getting the downpipe to fit and modifying your crossmember.

That still doesnt have injectors, fuel pump, fmu or megasquirt. Theres a lot of stuff missing from it but it will get you started.

[mhale71]

You're 16, learn to [fizzle]ing drive first, 160hp will do you fine.

[MEMPHIS]

Well I have behind the wheel since I was 7. Not on a car, but on a Kart.
I have raced Karts that push 50 mph, open wheeled, and racing 2 inches from another kart.
I can drive.
Second off, the turbo is sounding better and better.
Theres not alot of people around here that turbo, but I am pretty sure I can do it myself, with my Grandpa's help of course.
I found a kit on ebay for $900 then shipping is $100. Of course there will be other things i need, but those shouldn't cost me more that my budget.
Thanks for the info guys!

[KING6]

Go karts, lawn mowers, atv's and snowmobiles arent even compareable to a car.

unless you were driving them in the streets in traffic.

A turbo setup under 1k is going to be a half ass, problematic setup. just FYI

[MEMPHIS]

Yes cars are alot different. I will agree with you there. BUT it does help.
And i wont be being stupid on the road.
So IF i can find a kit and finish it with a few other things, then thats what i am gonna do.
Cause I have about $5000-6000 now to spend on this.

Maybe there is already a list of all that i need? if not could someone come up with one?

also another quick question. what 0-60 times are ppl getting after they turbo, and pushing about 8 psi of boost?

[02kyle]

dude you cant really ask what everyone is getting. so much goes into that sort of stuff man. each setup is different. I still say boost is not what you should look into. from the sounds of it you are not really up on your boost facts. and if you think you are going to get a kit worth a damn for 900 bucks you are nuts. you will pay more for a good turbo than that man. and you say you wont get in trouble, but dude you are 16 we have all been there and done that. take it from the old guys! that is the reason I dont have my first 6 still put lots of money into go fast parts and drove like a dick. it happens man. like I said been there done that. good luck

[Chefsp0t]

Originally Posted by 02kyle

and if you think you are going to get a kit worth a damn for 900 bucks you are nuts. you will pay more for a good turbo than that man.

Haha, very true. My pistons and rods cost almost twice that. I am looking into ceramic ball bearing turbos and they run almost $1200. I also have a motor built for boost that's got around 9k of work and parts into it. I'm a firm believer of doing things right the first time. If it's too expensive to do it the right way there's no point in doing it because when things break you won't have money to fix them.

The ZE is a good alternative to boost if you're on a low budget.

[vandejm]

Originally Posted by Chefsp0t

Haha, very true. My pistons and rods cost almost twice that. I am looking into ceramic ball bearing turbos and they run almost $1200. I also have a motor built for boost that's got around 9k of work and parts into it. I'm a firm believer of doing things right the first time. If it's too expensive to do it the right way there's no point in doing it because when things break you won't have money to fix them.

The ZE is a good alternative to boost if you're on a low budget.

if you want to know how to prepare a motor for boost, search some of chefs posts and read up what he has done to the motor to get it ready properly to boost the motor while maintaining reliability and longevity.

btw nice sig chef

[MEMPHIS]

i have $5000 to put into this baby. That sounds about like what yall are talking, for a nice turbo kit and install.
heres the deal, i dont know that much about boost AT ALL. thats why i came here.
I dont want this engine swap. It sounds like WAY to much trouble for a 40hp gain. kinda stupid if you ask me.
I was just running that kit by yall, i didnt think it sounded right, but it never hurts to ask.
I am going to boost this car. Yall can help me and we can make a heck of a good car. Or i can try it on my own. either way, within the year I will have a boosted mx6.
I am thinking of taking it to a High performance shop and have them do it?

[ZEmx]

Originally Posted by BOYZERO

read this entire website and scroll down to the steps and read up on what it takes to boost this car.

My Turbo Installation

Ross' Probe GT Performance Page

this should answer your question.

and it takes about 1500-3000 to build and install a turbo kit.

im already a lil over 2500. and i pretty much got everything. im only waiting to install my clutch and flywheel next week or two and its boost time. let me know if it helps.

where are you located?

ps. save the body kit for next time around and do 'all' your maintenence first. i mean all of it. calipers,rotors,pads,water pump, timing belt, pully set, probably a new flywheel or get yours resurfaced, more than likely you have over 100k. plugs, and suspension. what ever you can think of do it before you boost.

otherwise youll spend all this money and things start to fall apart all over thte place.

it took me over a year to build my turbo kit and finish my maintenence list. ill be done with clutch/flywhl.

good luck on your goal

DUDE THAT WEBSITE IS STILL UP......... THATS MY CAR ON THE KLZE SECTION, WOW THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. LOOKT AT MY TAKY(dont know if i spelled that correctly) ONE WIPER.

[BOYZERO]

Originally Posted by ZEmx

DUDE THAT WEBSITE IS STILL UP......... THATS MY CAR ON THE KLZE SECTION, WOW THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. LOOKT AT MY TAKY(dont know if i spelled that correctly) ONE WIPER.

yeah its a good info site, i use it a lot. nice cars/info. i use it as a platform for finding info. nothing like learning from others' experiences!..and pics

[Chefsp0t]

Originally Posted by MEMPHIS

i have $5000 to put into this baby. That sounds about like what yall are talking, for a nice turbo kit and install.
heres the deal, i dont know that much about boost AT ALL. thats why i came here.
I dont want this engine swap. It sounds like WAY to much trouble for a 40hp gain. kinda stupid if you ask me.
I was just running that kit by yall, i didnt think it sounded right, but it never hurts to ask.
I am going to boost this car. Yall can help me and we can make a heck of a good car. Or i can try it on my own. either way, within the year I will have a boosted mx6.
I am thinking of taking it to a High performance shop and have them do it?

If you have 5k that's a good starting point. I would first make sure your motor is running 100 percent. If there are any little things wrong they will be magnified when it is boosted so it's better to take care of them now. If you're planning on boosting a stock motor I would follow these steps.

1. Make sure the motor is running 100 percent. If it's a high mileage motor have it checked thoroughly by a mechanic. Get a compression test done to make sure your motor is healthy enough for boost.

2. Research what kind of turbo will work best for your needs. Talk to a performance shop that does a lot of turbo work. Smaller turbos will spool faster but they won't support high HP numbers. Larger turbos are better for higher horsepower but they will take longer to spool. Generally T3/4 turbos are a good size for our motor. Think about how much boost you will be running and get an inter cooler if the shop recommends it.

3. Start thinking about fuel control and spark control. Megasquirt is a great standalone fuel and spark controller. There are members here who build plug and play units that sell for around $500. Having fuel and spark control is necessary if you want to get the most from your setup.

4. Start buying turbo parts. I personally don't feel comfortable with the ebay kits but they could be a good starting point for a low boost setup. You could also get a kit put together by a performance shop. It will cost more but you will get better parts and have less headaches later on. I get all of my parts from my shop because they give better help to people who actually buy parts from them as opposed to just walking in off the street with a part of questionable quality. You will most likely need upgraded fuel injectors when you are boosted. A lot of people use millenia S injectors.

5. Think about the weak parts of the drive train and find upgraded parts to replace them. Get a better clutch with a braided steel clutch line, buy good brakes with good pads and braided steel brake lines, look into getting polyurethane motor mounts to reduce engine roll, see if anyone still sells a trans saver (this bolts to the transmission and keeps it from moving), possibly look into getting upgraded GTX 3rd and 5th gears from the Mazdaspeed Protege(our 3rd and 5th gears are usually good up to 300whp but it never hurts to be cautious), think about getting a limited slip differential to get all the power to the ground, buy good tires so you don't spin them through every gear.

This is basically the list I am following with my build except I started with a totally rebuilt and forged motor with lower compression and aggressive cams to allow me to reach higher boost levels than a stock motor.

Just do yourself a favor and keep in mind that a good turbo setup costs a lot of money and that things will break. Don't let people turn you away from building a turbo mx6. There are a lot of people boosting stock motors. Just make sure you get it done correctly so you are safe while you are having fun.

[MEMPHIS]

now thats what i am looking for!
thanks, i will let yall know how this goes.
may be a while though. as you said, its alot of work.