Mazda Mx-6 Questions

MEMPHIS · 5-13-08, 18:50

Ok so heres my quick question.
Are any mx6 ls's factory turboed? If so which ones?
Thanks

Pirate_d00d · 5-13-08, 19:29

Unfortunately (Or fortunately? WTF) there are no factory turbo'd LS's.

MEMPHIS · 5-13-08, 19:51

ok thats what i thought.
so i have about 2-3 grand to put into body-kit and for under the hood.
if the factory engine with no bolt on runs 174hp, what hp are we looking at after turbo, cat backs, cold-air intake, and lighter fly wheel?
and could all that be done for that much money?
Thanks

**alanmx6** · 5-13-08, 21:09

use the search at the top theres tons of stuff on this site. just drop and boost it!!

**Chefsp0t** · 5-13-08, 21:15

Please read the stickies in the 2g general section. There are a LOT of threads that have answered the same question.

The stock LS motor is a 2.5 liter V6 that makes 164hp and 160 ft/lb of torque. A cold air intake and catback exhaust might give you 10 horsepower at the wheels. A lighter flywheel doesn't really give you more horsepower, it frees up rotating mass from the flywheel assembly and makes the car rev faster. It's not necessarily a good thing to have a light flywheel. For example, it will make your car accelerate slower up hills because there's not enough rotating mass behind the flywheel. Also, if you're going to do a turbo setup later on it will make the car rev too fast and you'll probably bounce off the rev limiter a lot. I'm keeping my stock flywheel.

The question about the turbo is relative. You can make 10 more horsepower or you can make 200 more horsepower. It all depends on the size of the turbo, the condition of your motor, whether or not the car is inter cooled, and how good of a tune you have. A turbo setup requires a lot of money if you want it to last more than a week. You will absolutely break things and you need to be familiar with how your car works in order to diagnose and fix problems that arise.

It seems like you're pretty new to all this car stuff so research everything to death before you ask questions and make people act mean to you (they will if you keep asking questions that have been answered 200 times).

Happy tuning and drive safely.

**vandejm** · 5-13-08, 21:48

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Originally Posted by Chefsp0t

It's not necessarily a good thing to have a light flywheel. For example, it will make your car accelerate slower up hills because there's not enough rotating mass behind the flywheel. Also, if you're going to do a turbo setup later on it will make the car rev too fast and you'll probably bounce off the rev limiter a lot.

chef, while your post was very good i'd have to disagree with these statements.

less rotating mass means less inertia so it is more difficult for the car to maintain a speed (less efficient) while on highway or climbing a hill but at higher throttle levels the car will still accelerate faster in these situations with a lighter flywheel.

also, with any sort of driver skill you will not bounce off the rev limiter. esp if you know where it is and further know that because of valve train issues you shouldn't be getting anywhere near the rev limiter anyways...

no offense meant...

edit...very very good advice given on the last line

**Chefsp0t** · 5-13-08, 21:59

No offense taken vandejm. There are always two sides to every story. If there wasn't some kind of performance gain from using a lightened flywheel I don't think people would use them.

Thanks for the additional info about lightened flywheels.

Like every modification it comes down to personal choice more than anything. You just have to weigh the pros and cons and do whatever you think is best.

MEMPHIS · 5-13-08, 22:18

Ok so yes I have done tons of resheach on this, just havent found the info I was looking for. And yes I am not new to forums i checked before i asked.

Didnt find exactly what I needed.
So yes I understand about adding more or less boost. BUT I want to know whats safe.
Though i am new to these small blocked tuners, I understand how it all works.

my grandfather own a shop in porland, OR for many many years, and he has taught me alot.

So after saying all that. My question wasnt really answered. I can fix it when it breaks, and I only want about 200hp out of this thing. So whats the best turbo kit for my budget and my conditions. Yall know ALOT more about all this than I do, thats why I am asking.

Thanks

**BOYZERO** · 5-13-08, 22:30

read this entire website and scroll down to the steps and read up on what it takes to boost this car.

My Turbo Installation

Ross' Probe GT Performance Page

this should answer your question.

and it takes about 1500-3000 to build and install a turbo kit.

im already a lil over 2500. and i pretty much got everything. im only waiting to install my clutch and flywheel next week or two and its boost time. let me know if it helps.

where are you located?

ps. save the body kit for next time around and do 'all' your maintenence first. i mean all of it. calipers,rotors,pads,water pump, timing belt, pully set, probably a new flywheel or get yours resurfaced, more than likely you have over 100k. plugs, and suspension. what ever you can think of do it before you boost.

otherwise youll spend all this money and things start to fall apart all over thte place.

it took me over a year to build my turbo kit and finish my maintenence list. ill be done with clutch/flywhl.

good luck on your goal

02kyle · 5-14-08, 6:45

well man if you have 2g to play with you can it wont be hard to spend that on just the kit. to get a good kit and get it put on and painted to match.... that will cost a bit. and if you are looking for only 200hp save your money and just do a ze swap with some bolt on work. the norm for a boosted v6 seems to be around the 300 mark. boosted 2.0's is mid 200's or so.

also you said the word safe in your post.... that is not boost. lol! when you mod the car the odds of something going wrong goes way up!

at 16 (cf will not agree) you dont really need the boost man. go with the ze if you want 200 hp you will get in far less trouble.

MEMPHIS · 5-14-08, 10:39

Ok so a turbo is not for a fresh out of high school, limited $$ kinda guy.
HAHA
So i am going to sound stupid here, but what the heck is ze?
I am guessing some sort of FI?
Thanks again yall for helping me out!

**guitardude1568** · 5-14-08, 10:54

No a ze is an engine, An A-spec mx-6 comes with a klde, which makes 164 hp. A klze comes in the j-spec mx6's it makes almost 200 hp.

MEMPHIS · 5-14-08, 11:34

AH! I see, thats why google didnt know either. haha
So how much money are we talking here?
Can i trade in the original?
Is 40hp worth the mess of swapping out an engine?
I have done it before on a 73' dodge charger and it wasnt easy. HAHA But we arent talking about a 400 big block either.
So yeah, just let me know.

02kyle · 5-14-08, 12:51

not saying not to do it man, I am just saying you are young. if you have the bank to do it then boost away. just be safe. I know if I was 16 and had a boosted car...... well who knows if I would even be here now. I would not want to see my kid in a boosted car at 16 but that is just cuz I am old lol.

but like I said man if you are looking to make 200 hp then pick up a ze and call it a day. if that is not enough power then spray it. then you will keep your mpg's down, and if you are at the track then you can spray and get some more juice. that and it will be much cheaper than boost.

MEMPHIS · 5-14-08, 16:43

HAHA yeah boosted running 300hp and weighing in at only 2600 lbs. HAHA
I might not be here long. :P
So does mazda sell this ze?
If it is already out of the car should a put a cam in it?
And is the computer going to take the eninge swap?
sorry for all the questions, just some stuff i need to know before I spend all the green.

5-13-08, 18:50	#1 (permalink)
MEMPHIS New Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Age: 17 iTrader: (0)	Mazda Mx-6 Questions Ok so heres my quick question. Are any mx6 ls's factory turboed? If so which ones? Thanks

5-13-08, 19:29	#2 (permalink)
Pirate_d00d Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, TX, USA Age: 19 iTrader: (0)	Unfortunately (Or fortunately? WTF) there are no factory turbo'd LS's.
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5-13-08, 21:09	#4 (permalink)
alanmx6 Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: willow hill, PA, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (0)	use the search at the top theres tons of stuff on this site. just drop and boost it!!
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5-13-08, 21:15	#5 (permalink)
Chefsp0t I carry the Ban-Pan. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Philly, PA, USA Age: 23 iTrader: (2)	Please read the stickies in the 2g general section. There are a LOT of threads that have answered the same question. The stock LS motor is a 2.5 liter V6 that makes 164hp and 160 ft/lb of torque. A cold air intake and catback exhaust might give you 10 horsepower at the wheels. A lighter flywheel doesn't really give you more horsepower, it frees up rotating mass from the flywheel assembly and makes the car rev faster. It's not necessarily a good thing to have a light flywheel. For example, it will make your car accelerate slower up hills because there's not enough rotating mass behind the flywheel. Also, if you're going to do a turbo setup later on it will make the car rev too fast and you'll probably bounce off the rev limiter a lot. I'm keeping my stock flywheel. The question about the turbo is relative. You can make 10 more horsepower or you can make 200 more horsepower. It all depends on the size of the turbo, the condition of your motor, whether or not the car is inter cooled, and how good of a tune you have. A turbo setup requires a lot of money if you want it to last more than a week. You will absolutely break things and you need to be familiar with how your car works in order to diagnose and fix problems that arise. It seems like you're pretty new to all this car stuff so research everything to death before you ask questions and make people act mean to you (they will if you keep asking questions that have been answered 200 times). Happy tuning and drive safely.
	Current Project: Hibernation followed by installation of new parts in the spring. It's getting there. Garage Cardomain

5-13-08, 21:59	#7 (permalink)
Chefsp0t I carry the Ban-Pan. Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: near Philly, PA, USA Age: 23 iTrader: (2)	No offense taken vandejm. There are always two sides to every story. If there wasn't some kind of performance gain from using a lightened flywheel I don't think people would use them. Thanks for the additional info about lightened flywheels. Like every modification it comes down to personal choice more than anything. You just have to weigh the pros and cons and do whatever you think is best.
	Current Project: Hibernation followed by installation of new parts in the spring. It's getting there. Garage Cardomain

5-13-08, 19:51	#3 (permalink)
MEMPHIS New Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Age: 17 iTrader: (0)	ok thats what i thought. so i have about 2-3 grand to put into body-kit and for under the hood. if the factory engine with no bolt on runs 174hp, what hp are we looking at after turbo, cat backs, cold-air intake, and lighter fly wheel? and could all that be done for that much money? Thanks

5-13-08, 22:18	#8 (permalink)
MEMPHIS New Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Age: 17 iTrader: (0)	Ok so yes I have done tons of resheach on this, just havent found the info I was looking for. And yes I am not new to forums i checked before i asked. Didnt find exactly what I needed. So yes I understand about adding more or less boost. BUT I want to know whats safe. Though i am new to these small blocked tuners, I understand how it all works. my grandfather own a shop in porland, OR for many many years, and he has taught me alot. So after saying all that. My question wasnt really answered. I can fix it when it breaks, and I only want about 200hp out of this thing. So whats the best turbo kit for my budget and my conditions. Yall know ALOT more about all this than I do, thats why I am asking. Thanks

5-13-08, 22:30	#9 (permalink)
BOYZERO Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: , IL, USA Age: 28 iTrader: (1)	read this entire website and scroll down to the steps and read up on what it takes to boost this car. My Turbo Installation Ross' Probe GT Performance Page this should answer your question. and it takes about 1500-3000 to build and install a turbo kit. im already a lil over 2500. and i pretty much got everything. im only waiting to install my clutch and flywheel next week or two and its boost time. let me know if it helps. where are you located? ps. save the body kit for next time around and do 'all' your maintenence first. i mean all of it. calipers,rotors,pads,water pump, timing belt, pully set, probably a new flywheel or get yours resurfaced, more than likely you have over 100k. plugs, and suspension. what ever you can think of do it before you boost. otherwise youll spend all this money and things start to fall apart all over thte place. it took me over a year to build my turbo kit and finish my maintenence list. ill be done with clutch/flywhl. good luck on your goal
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5-14-08, 6:45	#10 (permalink)
02kyle Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: columbus,ohio, OSU!!, OH, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (1)	well man if you have 2g to play with you can it wont be hard to spend that on just the kit. to get a good kit and get it put on and painted to match.... that will cost a bit. and if you are looking for only 200hp save your money and just do a ze swap with some bolt on work. the norm for a boosted v6 seems to be around the 300 mark. boosted 2.0's is mid 200's or so. also you said the word safe in your post.... that is not boost. lol! when you mod the car the odds of something going wrong goes way up! at 16 (cf will not agree) you dont really need the boost man. go with the ze if you want 200 hp you will get in far less trouble.

5-14-08, 10:39	#11 (permalink)
MEMPHIS New Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Age: 17 iTrader: (0)	Ok so a turbo is not for a fresh out of high school, limited $$ kinda guy. HAHA So i am going to sound stupid here, but what the heck is ze? I am guessing some sort of FI? Thanks again yall for helping me out!

5-14-08, 11:34	#13 (permalink)
MEMPHIS New Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Age: 17 iTrader: (0)	AH! I see, thats why google didnt know either. haha So how much money are we talking here? Can i trade in the original? Is 40hp worth the mess of swapping out an engine? I have done it before on a 73' dodge charger and it wasnt easy. HAHA But we arent talking about a 400 big block either. So yeah, just let me know.

5-14-08, 12:51	#14 (permalink)
02kyle Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: columbus,ohio, OSU!!, OH, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (1)	not saying not to do it man, I am just saying you are young. if you have the bank to do it then boost away. just be safe. I know if I was 16 and had a boosted car...... well who knows if I would even be here now. I would not want to see my kid in a boosted car at 16 but that is just cuz I am old lol. but like I said man if you are looking to make 200 hp then pick up a ze and call it a day. if that is not enough power then spray it. then you will keep your mpg's down, and if you are at the track then you can spray and get some more juice. that and it will be much cheaper than boost.

5-14-08, 16:43	#15 (permalink)
MEMPHIS New Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Age: 17 iTrader: (0)	HAHA yeah boosted running 300hp and weighing in at only 2600 lbs. HAHA I might not be here long. :P So does mazda sell this ze? If it is already out of the car should a put a cam in it? And is the computer going to take the eninge swap? sorry for all the questions, just some stuff i need to know before I spend all the green.