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Old 5-13-09, 15:37   #1 (permalink)
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SC-14 supercharger installed.

A few other members are trying or have come close to boosting their KL with a Toyota SC-14 supercharger but I think I may be the first to succeed. I tried very hard to make it fit in the AC location but the space between the frame and the engine block is just no enough with the layout of the inlet and outlet on the charger. (Sorry Nate-V8) So I went with plan B and used a shafted setup. I have the charger mounted upside down but it should not matter and I have not encountered any problems. As for the 3 lines that come off the charger that people keep asking about, they are capped off for the time being. Haven't noticed any issues with that yet, but only time will tell.
The drive ratio is very close to what it would be if the charger was in the AC spot. Boost is obviously instantaneous with 5psi, but the interesting thing is that it CLIMBS to 6 psi between 4500 and 5000 RPM. IATs are little on the high side with 140-150 degrees so I may add an FMIC. To compensate for a pressure drop across the IC, upgraded pullies that allow the clutch feature to be retained can be found on Ebay and there is a company in Aus that makes them as well.

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As with any forced induction, a heat exchanger is your best bet. I also wouldn't worry about pressure drop. It's going to be insignificant. Get those IAT's down into the 10-15 degrees above ambient or lower!!

What do you have controlling fuel? Have you thought about a standalone system? What are your AFR's like?

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No worries about fueling.. Installed MS nearly a year ago. I just now get to use it for its intended purpose.
Its a semi rough tune right now but A/Fs are in the mid to upper 11s with very conservative timing until I get the IATs under control and find a dyno.
Running an intercooler will be no easy feat though, as space is extremely tight around the charger so running multiple pipes around it is gonna suck monkey balls. Ill figure it out eventually though.
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you can always run a water-air intercooler and have a small radiator as your fluid heat exchanger. Remember, you can run flexible water pipes in any direction and there is usually a pump with these kits so pipes for it can get pretty exotic

What does your timing map look like? Care to share a screen shot? I have mine pretty well dialed in and would like to compare notes.

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No problemo.
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I pulled a bunch of timing because I could hear some pinging under boost at first, probably due to the high IATs. Im trying to take it very easy on this motor because it has 258,000 miles on it. Got a new one to go in if it pops but I don't want to have to pay the tow bill to get it home.


Edit: Any clue if the air to water intercooler kits on ebay are worth a damn? They seem prettty reasonably priced.
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Yes they are quiet good, my father bought his from them. 2 water cooling radiators + 2 water pumps to one Intercooler usually he gets 3-6 degrees celsius above ambient temp. running 9psi of boost on a V8 5.0L ford with Powerdyne SC + 100% water injection from 0 PSI

I could post you some pics later on when I have time.
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Wait so he's running an intercooler AND water injection?


I discovered my bypass valve had a leaking seal yesterday so I replaced it and took it out for another drive and now I am consistantly hitting 6 to 6.5 psi. It was in the mid 50s last night with 90% humidity and the highest IATs I saw were 140 degrees. I think I may be getting a bit of belt slippage now at higher RPMs so Ill have to fure out a way to solve that. Charger is holding up GREAT other than that though. As far heat of the unit goes, I can go on a long boost streak and when I stop, I can comfortably hold my hand on the charger with no discomfort.
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why dont you just run a water/meth injection? that should lower your intake temps a lot. i'm sure its much cheaper and easier for room than an intercooler too.

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Water injection came with the SC kit but timing had to be retarded but my father didn't like his v8 in sluggish mode and decided to set it to factory timing but it was pinging at over 3krpm.

So he decided to cool the air further.

He also wrapped up the Water2Air cooler with fiber glass + VHT high temp ceramic paint to prevent heat soak and the result is 3-6degrees C above ambient for about 2 hours after that the worst it'd only be 9-12degrees C above ambient..

Don't mind the summit sticker LOL all the radiators and pumps were from siliconeintakes.com

dual water coolers

custom made 2inch pulley on Powerdyne silent drive SC

Pink line is the water injection.

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Sorry to bring this thread back to life, but how did you make the shaft for the supercharger relocation?? Or what did you get it from? I am very puzzled and can't seem to find it anywhere.

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anyone have a reply?

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You go to a hardware store and you buy the materials. bearings, tubing, shaft..etc. All of that was custom made.. Alot of probaly done by a machinest (or atleast should have been)

there was a guy making kits many many years ago. your only other option is to find one of his old used kits for sale.. he made very few.

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King6 , which do you think is easier/ cheaper to do? Super charge or turbo? I'm aware of the performance pros and cons but its rare you see a SC on an mx6.

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You're more likely to find the aftermarket parts for the turbo install. King6 makes a cross member to fit the turbo header and downpipe. If you can find an M60 sc from a mercedes 230c it can be mounted in the same location as the ac compressor, guy did it on PT a while back. Any other sc install requires a shaft setup. Like king said find an old kit for sale or you will have to do or have the work done yourself. You will need an FMU or fuel controller system(megasquirt best option). It can either be fairly simple and relatively cheap(wont last) or more difficult and expensive(will be more reliable).

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