took the 6 to the track today on a 1/8 mile strip and my best was a 10.37 at 64mph. Im happy with it there wasnt one car that could beat me off the line, it was a slow day for most cars there (3500ft elevation and about 30 degrees celcius temp) My first fun was agaist a Toyota soarer with a JZZ30 twin turbo running 10psi and big intercooler and i got him off the line and was ahead untill about half track and he only beat me by about half a car length. After he came and talked to me in the pits and asked what i was running and when i said stock V6 non turbo he couldnt believe it lol. I will post video as soon as my internet speeds up again
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are you trying to tell us that your v6 does 0-60 in about 9.5 and a twin turbo soarer is barely faster than you? Did you launch in 2nd? I call BS, but a weird kind of BS. Also, I don't believe that there was no car there that couldn't beat a FWD off the line.
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I find it perfectly believable that the soarer couldn't get him until half track... Keep in mind, its an 1/8th mile track... half track is right there lol. like their supra cousins, the jz family engine are top end monsters... If it went out to the 1/4, you'd begin to see a huge difference between the two, but on 1/8 mile tracks, you have 400hp cars barely running a few car lengths ahead of 160hp cars..
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exactly..my 6 ran into the 9s in the 1/8th mile in addition to the top end thing alot of high whp cars arent getting the traction in the 60ft they need.
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I dunno, only 10 psi and it's a RWD car, doesn't really sound like it's tuned for big top end power. And the 0-64 in 10.37 still irks me. 74 or 84 i would believe. Half is a little more than the length of a football field, and I don't see any cousin of a twin turbo supra losing in that distance. Maybe something with a HUGE single turbo.
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"big" top end or not, doesnt matter.. Those engine's natural power curves have more up high.. in the same way my jeep, though not making big pwoer, makes almost all of it down low... or an mx6's natural power band is in the mid range.
how often do you do 1/8 mile tracks? I see cars that shouldn't be even close, coming close all the time, in the 1/8 mile.
My 5.9 grand cherokee (or ones like it) for instance is considered a king of the 1/8 mile in many locales, among average or lightly modded vehicles, because its ALL low end... a few bolt ons and you're making 340lbs of torque (to the wheels) below 2000 rpm. Cars that would hand me my ass in a real race don't even start catching their breath until the 300 ft mark... which is pretty much 1/2 way down an 1/8 mile track. By that time i'll have 2-3 CL's on them and win or lose, it'll be within a CL of eachother at the end, unless you're involving cars that are WAY over-powered for a 1/8 mile track.
The only real competetors on an 1/8 mile track are high powered cars with slicks, or 4wd/awd vehicles that can get momentum very quickly... Buig powered turbo cars don't wake up until it's too late, or high rpm powerband cars - same problem. not enough time spent in those rpm's in 1st and 2nd gears... and playing catch up the rest of the time.
The soarer is stock, a 14 second car. That's a 9's 1/8 mile time slip. At elevation, and accounting for the age of the vehicle, skill of the driver, etc... it can easily be a 10 second 1/8 miler.
in a short track, getting off the line perfectly is paramount.. spin a tire? get a 2.2 second 60' - there goes your entire run.
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"big" top end or not, doesnt matter.. Those engine's natural power curves have more up high.. in the same way my jeep, though not making big pwoer, makes almost all of it down low... or an mx6's natural power band is in the mid range.
how often do you do 1/8 mile tracks? I see cars that shouldn't be even close, coming close all the time, in the 1/8 mile.
My 5.9 grand cherokee (or ones like it) for instance is considered a king of the 1/8 mile in many locales, among average or lightly modded vehicles, because its ALL low end... a few bolt ons and you're making 340lbs of torque (to the wheels) below 2000 rpm. Cars that would hand me my ass in a real race don't even start catching their breath until the 300 ft mark... which is pretty much 1/2 way down an 1/8 mile track. By that time i'll have 2-3 CL's on them and win or lose, it'll be within a CL of eachother at the end, unless you're involving cars that are WAY over-powered for a 1/8 mile track.
The only real competetors on an 1/8 mile track are high powered cars with slicks, or 4wd/awd vehicles that can get momentum very quickly... Buig powered turbo cars don't wake up until it's too late, or high rpm powerband cars - same problem. not enough time spent in those rpm's in 1st and 2nd gears... and playing catch up the rest of the time.
The soarer is stock, a 14 second car. That's a 9's 1/8 mile time slip. At elevation, and accounting for the age of the vehicle, skill of the driver, etc... it can easily be a 10 second 1/8 miler.
in a short track, getting off the line perfectly is paramount.. spin a tire? get a 2.2 second 60' - there goes your entire run.
I noticed that.
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64 doesnt seem right, I run ~ .01 reaction, ~2.2 60ft, and flat 10s at ~71 with a stock car and a slipping clutch... Reaction time makes a really big difference when at the track.
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The ET (elapsed time) doesn't START until you break the beam at the gate. I could sit there staged for 30 seconds, and still run a 9 second 1/8th.
Reaction time counts for nothing during time trials.
The only time it counts is when you're doing heads up, and redlights count. It still doesn't count toward ET, but it does count towards who wins.
Please repeat this to yourself as many times as needed until you get it. R/T means nothing, zilch, zero when it comes to time trials. Since you claim to have been at a track, did they not explain this very concept to you in the staging lines?
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i've been corrected on some points, but all i'm saying now is that 0-64 in 10.37 sounds very slow, and at that speed i don't see how any car beats a twin turbo soarer, even if it is heavy and auto. Mx6s are supposed to do 0-60 in about 7.5. granted it's older and that may have increase by a second, but another 2 seconds for 4 mph?
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The ET (elapsed time) doesn't START until you break the beam at the gate. I could sit there staged for 30 seconds, and still run a 9 second 1/8th.
Reaction time counts for nothing during time trials.
The only time it counts is when you're doing heads up, and redlights count. It still doesn't count toward ET, but it does count towards who wins.
Please repeat this to yourself as many times as needed until you get it. R/T means nothing, zilch, zero when it comes to time trials. Since you claim to have been at a track, did they not explain this very concept to you in the staging lines?
lol I wasnt talking about time trials, I know all that thanks though maybe it clarified somethings for other people, I should have gone more in depth on what I was saying.
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