New engine wont fulyl crank - Page 2

**SauerKraut** · 7-24-08, 10:06

Yeah it was cranking when it was hooked up to the saturn. I have a spare brand new alternator I can hook up if needed.

midnightmekanik · 7-24-08, 10:59

You probably have done this, but, did you shoot some motor oil into each cylinder after reassembly? You may just have dry walls... Try it anyways. WD40 into each cylinder may loosen it up if it's a little rusty, then try oil after.

**SauerKraut** · 7-24-08, 11:48

Yeah, I used a penetrant, then Marvel mystery oil and cycled the cylenders a couple of times.
I think I'm going to take it to a shop and have them look for my electrical problem. I cant even test for spark as the car shuts off(everything! except the oil indicator has a faint glow for some [fizzle]ed up reason) when I hit the ignition.

midnightmekanik · 7-24-08, 15:07

You my friend have some serious issues there... Electrical problems, and perhaps a tear down of the motor might be necessary... Don't give up on it though... If you feel up to it, run bare minimum to the motor to see if it'll stay alive. I mean literally no alt, ps pump, a/c, to see if it spins free... I'm just shooting things off that I would try before giving in to a shop.

**PaulG** · 7-26-08, 0:02

There's supposed to be a large ground under the fuse box too that people have had problems with, might want to check that too.

**SauerKraut** · 7-26-08, 10:28

THanks! So the major parts that need grounding are the engine, tranny, IM, and battery? Are all these grounded with yellow/black coded wires?

**donfromnaples** · 7-26-08, 13:52

starter, computer, alternator

**SauerKraut** · 7-26-08, 15:32

Ok. Is there a ground that should be running from my driverside strut tower? There is the remenants of what appears to be a grounding wire bolted on, but it is frayed off after an inch.

EDIT: Ground under battery is fine... Minor thought... does my O2 sensor need to be plugged in for the engine to want to start? As of now it's hanging there, not sure if it needs to be grounded to send the signal.... On a related subject, anyone know what the dealership charges per hour? I know I'm not going to like it as I was quoted $93 just to pull codes.(which I have done)

I gotta get my 6 running... I sat in front of it tonight hitting lock/unlock on my keyless entry just to watch my blue halos flash. sad I know, lol.

**D'sMx-6** · 7-27-08, 17:11

Damn man, if you have to take it to the dealer that would suck.

**donfromnaples** · 7-27-08, 23:44

It should start without the O2 sensor hooked up. Dealers around my way are now charging just over $100 per hour.

**SauerKraut** · 7-29-08, 21:21

Ok.... I replaced the battery wire and the bugger turns over. I found out the reason it kept trying to start even with the key out, was because the dam remote start was trying to start it. IDK why, but maybe it got fried or something.... I hope thats not the case.
Quick question, should the car be able to start with the battery at 9.6v? I'm charging it tonight, but I'm curious

midnightmekanik · 7-30-08, 2:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by SauerKraut

Ok.... I replaced the battery wire and the bugger turns over. I found out the reason it kept trying to start even with the key out, was because the dam remote start was trying to start it. IDK why, but maybe it got fried or something.... I hope thats not the case.
Quick question, should the car be able to start with the battery at 9.6v? I'm charging it tonight, but I'm curious

9.6v... Possible, but very unlikely in your case. The engine would have to be good and warm (ie just ran for a while) to turn over on such little power.

7-24-08, 10:06	#16 (permalink)
SauerKraut Mat-su-Da Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brookfield, WI, USA Age: 21 iTrader: (1)	Yeah it was cranking when it was hooked up to the saturn. I have a spare brand new alternator I can hook up if needed.
	I don't have a solution but I admire the problem

7-24-08, 10:59	#17 (permalink)
midnightmekanik Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brampton, Canada Age: 31 iTrader: (1)	You probably have done this, but, did you shoot some motor oil into each cylinder after reassembly? You may just have dry walls... Try it anyways. WD40 into each cylinder may loosen it up if it's a little rusty, then try oil after.
	94 MX-6... Stocker Grocery getter 93 Z24... soon to be 3.4L Twin Turbo!

7-24-08, 11:48	#18 (permalink)
SauerKraut Mat-su-Da Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brookfield, WI, USA Age: 21 iTrader: (1)	Yeah, I used a penetrant, then Marvel mystery oil and cycled the cylenders a couple of times. I think I'm going to take it to a shop and have them look for my electrical problem. I cant even test for spark as the car shuts off(everything! except the oil indicator has a faint glow for some [fizzle]ed up reason) when I hit the ignition.
	I don't have a solution but I admire the problem

7-24-08, 15:07	#19 (permalink)
midnightmekanik Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Brampton, Canada Age: 31 iTrader: (1)	You my friend have some serious issues there... Electrical problems, and perhaps a tear down of the motor might be necessary... Don't give up on it though... If you feel up to it, run bare minimum to the motor to see if it'll stay alive. I mean literally no alt, ps pump, a/c, to see if it spins free... I'm just shooting things off that I would try before giving in to a shop.
	94 MX-6... Stocker Grocery getter 93 Z24... soon to be 3.4L Twin Turbo!

7-26-08, 0:02	#20 (permalink)
PaulG Join Date: May 2004 Location: Ottawa, Canada Age: 33 iTrader: (1)	There's supposed to be a large ground under the fuse box too that people have had problems with, might want to check that too.
	1997 MX-6 LS

7-26-08, 10:28	#21 (permalink)
SauerKraut Mat-su-Da Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brookfield, WI, USA Age: 21 iTrader: (1)	THanks! So the major parts that need grounding are the engine, tranny, IM, and battery? Are all these grounded with yellow/black coded wires?
	I don't have a solution but I admire the problem

7-26-08, 13:52	#22 (permalink)
donfromnaples Join Date: May 2002 Location: Naples, Florida Age: 44 iTrader: (0)	starter, computer, alternator
	mx6 with test pipe, flowmaster muffler, underdrive pulley, mx3 flywheel, k&n air intake, kvr brakes and pads, tokico struts and springs, 17" Exel rims with BFGoodrich KD tires and 65mm bored throttle body, Proclarion CD player, Klipsch speakers, DEI 650 watt amp with Pioneer 12" sub, limo tint. SSAutochrome Headers, KLZE intake manifold and Colt cams to be installed.

7-26-08, 15:32	#23 (permalink)
SauerKraut Mat-su-Da Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brookfield, WI, USA Age: 21 iTrader: (1)	Ok. Is there a ground that should be running from my driverside strut tower? There is the remenants of what appears to be a grounding wire bolted on, but it is frayed off after an inch. EDIT: Ground under battery is fine... Minor thought... does my O2 sensor need to be plugged in for the engine to want to start? As of now it's hanging there, not sure if it needs to be grounded to send the signal.... On a related subject, anyone know what the dealership charges per hour? I know I'm not going to like it as I was quoted $93 just to pull codes.(which I have done) I gotta get my 6 running... I sat in front of it tonight hitting lock/unlock on my keyless entry just to watch my blue halos flash. sad I know, lol. Last edited by SauerKraut : 7-26-08 at 22:06.
	I don't have a solution but I admire the problem

7-27-08, 17:11	#24 (permalink)
D'sMx-6 Overhaulin' the 6 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: milwaukee, WI, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (2)	Damn man, if you have to take it to the dealer that would suck.
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7-27-08, 23:44	#25 (permalink)
donfromnaples Join Date: May 2002 Location: Naples, Florida Age: 44 iTrader: (0)	It should start without the O2 sensor hooked up. Dealers around my way are now charging just over $100 per hour.
	mx6 with test pipe, flowmaster muffler, underdrive pulley, mx3 flywheel, k&n air intake, kvr brakes and pads, tokico struts and springs, 17" Exel rims with BFGoodrich KD tires and 65mm bored throttle body, Proclarion CD player, Klipsch speakers, DEI 650 watt amp with Pioneer 12" sub, limo tint. SSAutochrome Headers, KLZE intake manifold and Colt cams to be installed.

7-29-08, 21:21	#26 (permalink)
SauerKraut Mat-su-Da Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Brookfield, WI, USA Age: 21 iTrader: (1)	Ok.... I replaced the battery wire and the bugger turns over. I found out the reason it kept trying to start even with the key out, was because the dam remote start was trying to start it. IDK why, but maybe it got fried or something.... I hope thats not the case. Quick question, should the car be able to start with the battery at 9.6v? I'm charging it tonight, but I'm curious
	I don't have a solution but I admire the problem