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Old 7-27-09, 21:01   #1 (permalink)
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Power steering question.

OK i have a 97 mx6 2.5l v6 ... recently started to hear noises and find out that the power steering is going out ... i do not have anymore oil in that reservoir ... so i even started to feel when i steer left or right that it becomes harder and harder and the pump i believe .. is making a weird noise ... on top when i wanted to add flui it all leaked under from some where so i do not know if it isnt the pump or a hose because the leak was huge.

anyways, i cannot do any repair where i live but a friend has a shop about 75 miles away ... i plan to go there but i want to know can i drive the car so far without , i don't know, losing control of the car until i get there ? i mean at that shop i will open it up replace the power steering pump and any hose that is broken but i wonder what is the worst and less worst that could happen ?

i do not really want to pay to get a dolly and have it towed ...not that i am cheap .. can't afford to spend more then whatever the pump cost and some hoses ...

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You can drive normally without power steering. The only difference you'll notice is that the car will be harder to turn at low speeds, but while cruising you'll hardly be able to tell the power steering is out.

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all right i can work around that ... :O)) ... thing is the "rack" or any other part ... except pump of course .... would not be negatively influenced ? ... beyond point of repair ? ...

in this case if i fix it ... it should work normally ... if i do it properly as well ... ??

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Nope. Aside from the steering column, all the steering components are under the same amount of stress they are when the power steering is working, you're just feeling it now.

Everything should work fine after you fix it.

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Thank you very much for the info ....
Means a lot to feel that it won't hurt my baby more than it is now ...:O))
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actually if all the fluid is gone, there's a chance the bearing could seize up. if it does, things will break resulting in you having to buy a new pump. depends on if your bearing is one of those sealed ones, or if it's an open sided one where the fluid helps to lube it. on my 93 LS, it had an open bearing. On my 96 LS, it had a sealed bearing

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actually if all the fluid is gone, there's a chance the bearing could seize up. if it does, things will break resulting in you having to buy a new pump. depends on if your bearing is one of those sealed ones, or if it's an open sided one where the fluid helps to lube it. on my 93 LS, it had an open bearing. On my 96 LS, it had a sealed bearing
well considering that it is a 97 and 96 and 97 are the same i believe the bearing it might be sealed ... but it doesn't matter i am going to see if it will work if not i will replace the pump ... i mean this is the risk that i need to take i guess... thank you ... i mean i do not know how the hoses are running so it is either a hose broken or i have that leak thru the pump cause i couldn't get under the car and at the complex that i live.
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I'm having a similar problem. I replaced the serpentine belt and tensioner pulley that go on the powersteering pump but in the process I broke the metal bracket that holds the tensioner pulley in place. Went to the junkyard, got the new bracket replaced it and now i have a huge power steering fluid leak. I also had to remove the pulley that connects to the power steering pump in order to the get the bracket out.
Any suggestions on what I could have jacked up in the process. Maybe a washer or something I could have missed? What parts of the p/s require washers? I'll be looking at the car this weekend I hope to have some suggestions and maybe pics to go by.

any help is always appreciated.

ps. power steering didn't leak before the repair.

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yeah, hopefully if you go to the yard there's a 2nd gen that has no motor so you can inspect the rack out better and would be way easier to take out without a motor in the car, also i hope that you checked all the lines that go to the ps pump and make sure that they're not cracked and leaking. u tightened all the bolts back to spec?

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my leak is coming from somewhere here.


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See that black ring around the opening? you probably have pinched that o-ring. very common thing to when installing it, plus it's a pain in the but since there's literally no clearance. gearwrenches come in handy, but making sure it's seated correctly is key

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actually if all the fluid is gone, there's a chance the bearing could seize up. if it does, things will break resulting in you having to buy a new pump. depends on if your bearing is one of those sealed ones, or if it's an open sided one where the fluid helps to lube it. on my 93 LS, it had an open bearing. On my 96 LS, it had a sealed bearing
A new power steering pump is the least of your worries if this bearing seizes up. If the pulley stops spinning the belt will overheat and snap. This means no more water pump and your engine will be toast soon.

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here's a few pics of the leak and the attempted solution. which failed btw.







is there something wrong with the shape of this pump that i'm missing?









this is the crush washer from the pump. does anyone see anything wrong with it?




here's the attempted solution. I wrapped the original washer in teflon and put it back in place. The leak slowed down but it still leaks none the less.



anyone have any suggestions? This is where the leak is coming from, what else can i do?

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that's supposed to be an o-ring gasket, not a crush washer :P if yours feels like a crush washer, it's because it's rock hard. get a new one that feels like rubber

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that's supposed to be an o-ring gasket, not a crush washer :P if yours feels like a crush washer, it's because it's rock hard. get a new one that feels like rubber

yeah, i meant to say o ring. sorry.

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