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Squeak/groan from front end.

Hey guys, having some weird issues from my front end recently...
Ever since I redid the LCA bushings I've had a weird creaking and groaning from my front end... when I haven't driven my car for the night and I go to reverse out of driveway it squeaks and groans... once I drive it for a bit it stops a little but if I ever turn into a place where i have to go over a bump with one side of the car and then the other side follows it squeaks like crazy!!

Could it be from the suspension? Maybe when I raised the car to do the bushings a rubber bit somewhere in the suspension fell away from old age???
It also happens when I turn the wheel when Im going slow. I do not think its steering related though.

Is there some sort of bearing that the strut fits into? Could it be that they are shot?

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Yesssss... but just reading some posts on benzworld and they were saying its a ball joint/ tie rod end issue??

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Replace those and maybe you need the inner tie rods too. Those squeak and groan and such when the get dry and old
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Not sure if it's the same thing but I get squeaks/groans only at low speeds going over speed bumps.
Not long after I got the car it was happening on one side at the front but shortly after it started on the other side also, only the front though.
It was running on cut springs but I raised it (to pedders sportsriders), got new control arm bushings and tie rod ends. Thoughts?
I always thought it was blown struts as it rides pretty soft.
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Its just loud and concerning... plus it sounds kinda gross... metal on metal... can't be good

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Does it squeak when you bounce the front on the car. Like lift a fender and push down on it to simulate bumps in the road. And it could be ball joints too. Unfortunately you have to get the whole control arm is the ball joint is bad
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If it didn't groan before, it could just be a small thing. When I replaced my control arms, the 2 back bolts going up into the frame were not quite tight enough, and there was groaning. I tightened them up a bit, and the groan went completely away.
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I'll check the bolts tonight... no it doesnr squeak when I lift the front.

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Here's a good example of a rusted pivot ball starting at 15:58 in this video. It's part of my ATX to MTX swap so ignore the rest of the video if you want. I show how to install the axles, tie rods, pivot ball, hubs, caliper, rotor, you name it.

Mazda 626 - ATX to MTX Transmission Swap Part 8 - YouTube

In your case the metal on metal could be coming from a loose tie rod or lower control arm pivot ball plus a squeaky shock. They all work together with each other so have multiple components making a noise at the same time could be possible.

Oh and in case anyone is interested... the axles and transmission are from a 1994 MX-6 going into my 1995 626.

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Re: Squeak/groan from front end.

OK.... so had time to take EVERYTHING apart today... took the whole strut off, took ball joint out. Replaced with moog. But nope. Still the same grind. I DID see some heavy heavy wear on the bottom end if the coil springs to where it was worn pretty flat. But my main idea is it somehow is comminf from the front sway bar bracket. There is a bushing in there and I think its toast. But getting to that bracket seems near Impossible.

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Had a similar problem and in my case the fix was easy. Just replaced the front end links (both sides) and the problem went away.
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Re: Squeak/groan from front end.

I just replaced them both though.... not 3 months ago

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new suspension there peaches....

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Re: Squeak/groan from front end.

Just bought 4 new Moog strut mounts for all corners... next purchase I'm debating on a little...

I currently run stock suspension with 18" rims with 215/35/r tires....

I like the stiffness they provide, albeit little warning of loss of traction.
Now here is the question... should I go with the tokico HP blue? Or the tokico illuminas...
Is there a "too stiff" for these cars?
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