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Old 3-18-07, 19:36   #31 (permalink)
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Thanks for the help guys, however now I'm a little confused about what to do. Seems to be a mixed opinion of whether with the heads/cams it's a ZE or not, so...

Should I be looking for KL31 cams and the proper heads and do all the work? Or not?
The heads should have a KL31 stamp on them as well.
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Heads are simple. Are the intake ports square or oval? That is the only difference between the DE and ZE heads. If the Heads are ZE then I'm betting 99% sur ethe cams are.

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The heads are DE stamped.

I keep getting unfavourable responses over the photoshopping the contract idea from my friends...does anyone else see this as a bad idea too? If so, why?

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ZE and DE blocks are the same, the only difference is the pistons. How sure are you that you have ZE pistons? Do a compression test and post back. It would surprise the hell out of me that they would go through all that trouble to change the heads, when it's a lot easier to just replace the IM.
As far as bottom ends go, yes. The top end is totally different though. It features equal size valving, larger intake runners, more aggressive cams, larger intake manifold, and larger throttle body.

In my opinion, thats a lot different then just the pistons.

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The heads are DE stamped.

I keep getting unfavourable responses over the photoshopping the contract idea from my friends...does anyone else see this as a bad idea too? If so, why?

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If you do that, they can sue you if you go after them. The way it stands now, you can sue them if its not to your standards as part of the consumer protection act.

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The heads are DE stamped.

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Well if they dont mark their reciepts with anything other than a partial engine code .. then theyd know it was a fake and would make your claims look like lies to anyone else that you tried to report them to like the BBB..

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The heads are DE stamped.
All Stamps aside ...(because they don't mean [shizzle] most of the time) ... what shape are the intake ports? Are they square or oval? You never answered that.

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All Stamps aside ...(because they don't mean [shizzle] most of the time) ... what shape are the intake ports? Are they square or oval? You never answered that.
Oh yeah, sorry. I haven't removed the IM yet, so I can't tell until I do that.

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I4, I meant the short block not the long block. I didn't know the tb was bigger (I assume you mean the bore) though.

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Oh yeah, sorry. I haven't removed the IM yet, so I can't tell until I do that.
I don't know where this stupid rumor started about the Camshaft Stampings. It's been covered many many times. Some ZE cams are marked like DE. They don't differentiate themselves by those markings, because the DE was not available anywhere the ZE was and there was no need to differentiate.

The best way you'll be able to tell is pull your Intake Manifold off. You'll need to, to paint your rear Valve cover anyways. Does it have an EGR on the rear head? ZE's shouldn't, DE's do. You can also run a compression check.

I seriously doubt they scammed you because it's not worth the time or effort to locate a ZE Manifold and then bolt it to a DE engine. I'll bet you have a true blue ZE ready to rip.

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I say pull the intake off and check bro. You are getting my spacers anyways.. and you will have to pull it off in the end... ( i packed it up today)
Let us know what shapes the ports are.. if they are klde.. then you prob dont want my spacers.. so check first..
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Yeah, seems like that's the next step. But even if they are DE heads, that's not going to be the end of the world, I'll be in the market for ZE heads, that's all.

Unfortunately it's that time of year for research papers being due and exams start, so that'll have to wait, at least for another week.
By the way Porkitch, u got a PM bout the spacers.

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Any tips to removing the ZE IM?

Sorry for the double post, but....

As per my lack of mechanical experience, removing the intake manifold is going to be a challenge for me.

I already have this link for some help: http://forums.probetalk.com/showthread.php?t=1700975049

...but it's bout removing the DE manifold, which I'm sure reserves a few differences. Can anyone point them out please, or have any tips for a first timer?

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Please see the following link....bad news BShark.

KLZE/KLDE Comparitave Information along with Prices!

http://www.redlinegoods.com/cgi-bin/...1&aid=195&p=34

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From the chart this is exactly the motor i got in montreal.

Japanese: Eunos 800: aka Pre-2000 Millenias
200HP with Cams that say KL-01, and curved neck intake with large square ports.

Some members said it wasn't a KLZE, i guess they were FOS!


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funny the same thing happened to one of my friends bought a "klze" looked all good at first had the eunos ze mani and flat top pistons, but the heads were stamped kl-101 and had round porting along with klo1 cams
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