HELP moding (Got my a$$ handed to me!)

BLWNLT1 · 5-1-08, 18:22

Following happened in Mexico:

Car:1994 Mazda MX6 2.0L DOHC

Yup I got beat by a freakin neon... I think he sprayed on me. From the get go I had him Launched out 1/2 a car on him end of 1st he was at my rear bumper, 2nd pulled another half a car. By the beginning of 3rd I had him by at least 1 and 1/2 car when I see his car coming up like nothing. By the end of 3rd I let off and he was 2 cars ahead of me... I know I said this was going to be my DD but... I've never had this many people try to race me. When I'm in my Trans Am everyone leaves me alone. So I think I will start modding this car to get revenge on the neon and to surprise the hell out of other people.

Plans:
I have an extra intake that I will port to match the gaskets.
Ebay headers... Port heads (exhaust ports) to match headers.
Ebay short throw sifter...
Ebay cold air intake
That's about all the mods I have found for this car any help where I can find more will be appreciated.

Also how big of a shot can this engine handle?

I have a TNT wet kit with 50,75,100,150 wet shot.

**ExtremeJDK** · 5-2-08, 9:27

I doubt he was spraying or he would have really spanked you! There were two engines available for the Neon. The SOHC and DOHC 2.0L.

The DOHC Neon had 150HP @ only 2400lbs! (Even the SOHC had 131HP)

Compare that to your '94 MX6 w/ 118HP @ 2600lbs!

And then remember, there's actually a real aftermakert world for those Neons. Some people drop in the 2.4L (direct bolt-in) and there are plenty of other goodies he could have had installed.

**ExtremeJDK** · 5-2-08, 9:30

As far as modifying your car ... porting your heads is alot of work unless you were needing to take it off already!

I suggest Cold Air Intake, Headers and Exhaust. Short throw shifter won't do [shizzle] for speed. Just feels 'nifty'. If you run nitrous ... it 'might' handle a 50 shot on the OEM fuel pump. Maybe 100 shot with a High-flow pump ... but it's your daily driver ... stick with 25-50.

BLWNLT1 · 5-2-08, 11:16

Well I'll find something. I know the short throw sifter will not help speed, But will reduce time on shifting. And I really think he sprayed because I was pulling him 1st and 2nd, 3rd he pulled 3 1/2 cars like nothing... Thats just my opinion... About mods I will continue my search and will post anything helpful I find for us I4 people. To me nitrous will be the way for this car because I already have a kit.

**ExtremeJDK** · 5-2-08, 19:17

Turbocharging those I4's are pretty easy using Protege parts too! I just recently got rid of my turbo V6(LS) but I was debating doing a turbo 4 cylinder. Lighter weight and an easy 200HP!

**unkiedave** · 5-7-08, 13:36

dont have an i4 but this should work just as it did for my v6. imo you've forgot 2 important upgrades. bored tb ( i think you i4 people have one for your car ) and a lighter fly wheel. this is what i would do. spend to 70 bucks for a good cold and and spend 25 bucks on a use throtle body that fits ur car and pay the 80 bucks for the bore and new butterfly plate. if you can find one that has been pre bored then even better. after the cai and bored tb pick up a used borla setup for about 250 -300. worth ever penny. then at your first excuse to get in that tranny buy and install a mx3 flywheel. the weight savings will kick up your acceleration. i have a 9lb fidanza flywheel and think it may be alittle rough for dd. the money you save on an used mx3 flywheel over the 9lb fidanza you can put towards a set of headers. with all these go mods you should probally upgrade your stopping with a nice set of brembo cross drilled rotors. that imo is the best bang for the buck.

70 cai
125 bore tb
275 used borla catback
50 used mx3 13lb flywheel
$520

**ls six** · 5-10-08, 11:39

The mx3 flywheel wont fit the 4cyl.

**unkiedave** · 5-10-08, 12:55

is there a lighter flywheel for the i4 or is it light enough to not even bother?

**ls six** · 5-10-08, 16:25

Fidanza might make one but I have the 6 as well.

Lightening might work but I dont know how much weight can be safely removed.

The FS is it's own motor and not related to other mazda 4 bangers so I doubt
any other flywheel would fit.

Pirate_d00d · 5-10-08, 20:10

I've seen Fidanza flywheels for sale for the 2.0L. I've seen the 2.5L flywheel which is 9lbs and the 2.0L is 7.5lbs. In fact there's one on eBay for a few hundred dollars.

**BrokenJohnny** · 5-13-08, 4:10

Souping up a neon is like putting a bikini on a fat chick. Pointless and wrong.

**Turk** · 5-14-08, 4:15

I want a bowl of this neon soup ive been hearing about.

**ExtremeJDK** · 5-15-08, 7:55

I don't own a Neon and I think they look pretty gay, but they actually have a fairly extensive road racing history! They have a much larger aftermarket than our cars with a lot more research and development. There are numerous 10 second Neons and I only know of ONE Probe there!

I still say juice your car with a 50 shot and be done!

FS-ZE Freak · 5-16-08, 20:20

I dont know why you got beat. I have an I4 and my father has the DOHC neon, late night, closed road: race. I beat him by a few car lengths...I have basic bolt ons like intake exhaust headers...

5-1-08, 18:22	#1 (permalink)
BLWNLT1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: iTrader: (0)	HELP moding (Got my a$$ handed to me!) Following happened in Mexico: Car:1994 Mazda MX6 2.0L DOHC Yup I got beat by a freakin neon... I think he sprayed on me. From the get go I had him Launched out 1/2 a car on him end of 1st he was at my rear bumper, 2nd pulled another half a car. By the beginning of 3rd I had him by at least 1 and 1/2 car when I see his car coming up like nothing. By the end of 3rd I let off and he was 2 cars ahead of me... I know I said this was going to be my DD but... I've never had this many people try to race me. When I'm in my Trans Am everyone leaves me alone. So I think I will start modding this car to get revenge on the neon and to surprise the hell out of other people. Plans: I have an extra intake that I will port to match the gaskets. Ebay headers... Port heads (exhaust ports) to match headers. Ebay short throw sifter... Ebay cold air intake That's about all the mods I have found for this car any help where I can find more will be appreciated. Also how big of a shot can this engine handle? I have a TNT wet kit with 50,75,100,150 wet shot.
BLWNLT1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: iTrader: (0)

5-2-08, 9:27	#2 (permalink)
ExtremeJDK Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orem, UT, USA Age: 27 iTrader: (0)	I doubt he was spraying or he would have really spanked you! There were two engines available for the Neon. The SOHC and DOHC 2.0L. The DOHC Neon had 150HP @ only 2400lbs! (Even the SOHC had 131HP) Compare that to your '94 MX6 w/ 118HP @ 2600lbs! And then remember, there's actually a real aftermakert world for those Neons. Some people drop in the 2.4L (direct bolt-in) and there are plenty of other goodies he could have had installed.
	'93 MX6- [Tockico Struts +Eibachs][C.A.I][17" Enkeis][DAILY DRIVER] '97 Probe GT -[Eibachs][Borla Exhaust][Limo Tint] The Others - [BMW E36 325i][ Jeep Comanche 4x4]

5-2-08, 9:30	#3 (permalink)
ExtremeJDK Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orem, UT, USA Age: 27 iTrader: (0)	As far as modifying your car ... porting your heads is alot of work unless you were needing to take it off already! I suggest Cold Air Intake, Headers and Exhaust. Short throw shifter won't do [shizzle] for speed. Just feels 'nifty'. If you run nitrous ... it 'might' handle a 50 shot on the OEM fuel pump. Maybe 100 shot with a High-flow pump ... but it's your daily driver ... stick with 25-50.
	'93 MX6- [Tockico Struts +Eibachs][C.A.I][17" Enkeis][DAILY DRIVER] '97 Probe GT -[Eibachs][Borla Exhaust][Limo Tint] The Others - [BMW E36 325i][ Jeep Comanche 4x4]

5-2-08, 11:16	#4 (permalink)
BLWNLT1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: iTrader: (0)	Well I'll find something. I know the short throw sifter will not help speed, But will reduce time on shifting. And I really think he sprayed because I was pulling him 1st and 2nd, 3rd he pulled 3 1/2 cars like nothing... Thats just my opinion... About mods I will continue my search and will post anything helpful I find for us I4 people. To me nitrous will be the way for this car because I already have a kit.
BLWNLT1 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: iTrader: (0)

5-2-08, 19:17	#5 (permalink)
ExtremeJDK Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orem, UT, USA Age: 27 iTrader: (0)	Turbocharging those I4's are pretty easy using Protege parts too! I just recently got rid of my turbo V6(LS) but I was debating doing a turbo 4 cylinder. Lighter weight and an easy 200HP!
	'93 MX6- [Tockico Struts +Eibachs][C.A.I][17" Enkeis][DAILY DRIVER] '97 Probe GT -[Eibachs][Borla Exhaust][Limo Tint] The Others - [BMW E36 325i][ Jeep Comanche 4x4]

5-7-08, 13:36	#6 (permalink)
unkiedave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Glenelg...Near Columbia, MD, USA Age: 28 iTrader: (1)	dont have an i4 but this should work just as it did for my v6. imo you've forgot 2 important upgrades. bored tb ( i think you i4 people have one for your car ) and a lighter fly wheel. this is what i would do. spend to 70 bucks for a good cold and and spend 25 bucks on a use throtle body that fits ur car and pay the 80 bucks for the bore and new butterfly plate. if you can find one that has been pre bored then even better. after the cai and bored tb pick up a used borla setup for about 250 -300. worth ever penny. then at your first excuse to get in that tranny buy and install a mx3 flywheel. the weight savings will kick up your acceleration. i have a 9lb fidanza flywheel and think it may be alittle rough for dd. the money you save on an used mx3 flywheel over the 9lb fidanza you can put towards a set of headers. with all these go mods you should probally upgrade your stopping with a nice set of brembo cross drilled rotors. that imo is the best bang for the buck. 70 cai 125 bore tb 275 used borla catback 50 used mx3 13lb flywheel $520
	94 Black Mx6 Ls ZE 5spd - 65mm TB, 9lb flywheel, cai, headers, highflow cat, borla catback, eibach springs, kyb gr-2http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/786568 http://www.myspace.com/unkiedavemx6

5-10-08, 11:39	#7 (permalink)
ls six Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: omaha, NE, USA iTrader: (1)	The mx3 flywheel wont fit the 4cyl.
	96 MX-6 full exhaust A/C delete spoiler delete probe wheels and a turbo in the worx. 01 626 brake's98 626 sway bar Altima rear sway bar links.http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2934576 90 pontiac transam. 350 TPI motor new 24# injectors. Rebuilt trans. lots to come.

5-10-08, 12:55	#8 (permalink)
unkiedave Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Glenelg...Near Columbia, MD, USA Age: 28 iTrader: (1)	is there a lighter flywheel for the i4 or is it light enough to not even bother?
	94 Black Mx6 Ls ZE 5spd - 65mm TB, 9lb flywheel, cai, headers, highflow cat, borla catback, eibach springs, kyb gr-2http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/786568 http://www.myspace.com/unkiedavemx6

5-10-08, 16:25	#9 (permalink)
ls six Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: omaha, NE, USA iTrader: (1)	Fidanza might make one but I have the 6 as well. Lightening might work but I dont know how much weight can be safely removed. The FS is it's own motor and not related to other mazda 4 bangers so I doubt any other flywheel would fit.
	96 MX-6 full exhaust A/C delete spoiler delete probe wheels and a turbo in the worx. 01 626 brake's98 626 sway bar Altima rear sway bar links.http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2934576 90 pontiac transam. 350 TPI motor new 24# injectors. Rebuilt trans. lots to come.

5-10-08, 20:10	#10 (permalink)
Pirate_d00d Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Austin, TX, USA Age: 19 iTrader: (0)	I've seen Fidanza flywheels for sale for the 2.0L. I've seen the 2.5L flywheel which is 9lbs and the 2.0L is 7.5lbs. In fact there's one on eBay for a few hundred dollars.
	Spectre Modular CAI w/ Spectre Filter, NGK G-Power plugs, Bosch Premium 7mm wires, Tokico Blues, Megan Racing springs

5-13-08, 4:10	#11 (permalink)
BrokenJohnny Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Sunny Beaches of Canada, Canada Age: 26 iTrader: (0)	Souping up a neon is like putting a bikini on a fat chick. Pointless and wrong.
	Horsepower wins brags, but torque wins drags! My blog My Mods: Custom Cold Air intake with under car ram scoop, NGK Spark plugs and wires, stage 1 clutch, high-flow cat, and a big red button that makes my car transform into Optimus Prime.

5-14-08, 4:15	#12 (permalink)
Turk Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 iTrader: (1)	I want a bowl of this neon soup ive been hearing about.
	Turbo charged, intercooled and Megasquirted KLZE -RB25DET injectors and other boost related goodies - Custom PP Exedy HD Clutch - 2.5" turboback - DBA Slotted x4, EBC Greens - 17" Superlight forged Regamaster Rims - My car (before turbo) http://www.mx6.com/forums/gallery/19...56k-no-go.html

5-15-08, 7:55	#13 (permalink)
ExtremeJDK Join Date: May 2005 Location: Orem, UT, USA Age: 27 iTrader: (0)	I don't own a Neon and I think they look pretty gay, but they actually have a fairly extensive road racing history! They have a much larger aftermarket than our cars with a lot more research and development. There are numerous 10 second Neons and I only know of ONE Probe there! I still say juice your car with a 50 shot and be done! Last edited by ExtremeJDK : 5-15-08 at 8:01.
	'93 MX6- [Tockico Struts +Eibachs][C.A.I][17" Enkeis][DAILY DRIVER] '97 Probe GT -[Eibachs][Borla Exhaust][Limo Tint] The Others - [BMW E36 325i][ Jeep Comanche 4x4]

5-16-08, 20:20	#14 (permalink)
FS-ZE Freak Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Montreal, Canada Age: 21 iTrader: (0)	I dont know why you got beat. I have an I4 and my father has the DOHC neon, late night, closed road: race. I beat him by a few car lengths...I have basic bolt ons like intake exhaust headers...
	1997 I4 "Belle" : Dead...check it out --->www.cardomain.com/ride/2815729 I live my life a 1/4 mile @ a time! ROFL Civic - Patience is a virtue I don't have time for! -