Differences between 4WS and 2WS - Page 3

**mx6GT91** · 7-14-08, 22:24

Not 100% again.....
4WS A/C controls are push button was standard. I think the push button was an option on GT's as most Ive seen are slide control.

**DarkMx-6** · 7-21-08, 12:59

I have push button on my gt, but its so old that the buttons that change it from head to feet don't stay down. The air still blows but I have no idea where it blows.

**monoxidechild** · 7-21-08, 15:27

yup, mine is the same way. and im not a 4WS. but he said it was standard on the 4WS. just means i have options! lol

defiler · 7-22-08, 23:02

Also, as I found out today, the 4ws has different rotors and wheel bearings in the rear. The wheel bearing itself is larger in diameter, while the rotor isd the same size, it just has a larger center hole to accomodate the larger wheel bearing.

And since the bearing has a larger diameter, the spindle on the rear of the 4ws is larger than its 2ws counterpart.

**jesiotrot** · 7-24-08, 5:16

Interesting, the rear wheel bearing and spindle on a GV wagon is also bigger. Probably the same size.

**Wibla** · 8-5-08, 20:24

Seems the brake calipers in the rear is different too, can anyone verify this?

defiler · 8-5-08, 20:25

I can try and measure to see why they are different tomorrow when its light out. Ill check on my 2ws and 4ws models both and compare.

Quote:

i was really hoping that front lower tie bar would bolt up on one of my probes, or 626gt. sadly the holes are not there for it ont hem. but just from holding it up, all you would have to do is drill some holes, but dont think it would really be needed. who knows. maybe one day ill use it for something.

Sell it to me! Mine you can tell was chopped off. The ends are there bolted into the car, but the whole center section has been cut out

(And the 4ws at the junkyard dint have it either)

**Wibla** · 8-5-08, 20:44

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Originally Posted by defiler

I can try and measure to see why they are different tomorrow when its light out. Ill check on my 2ws and 4ws models both and compare.

That would be great

**jphillips626** · 8-6-08, 0:12

I have twice replaced the rear calipers on the 4ws cars i have owned. Once on defilers 4ws car and recently on my 626 4ws. Yes they are different. I am not sure why or how. I did get a set of loaded rear calipers for only 150 for both. Funny thing is that the core was 20 more per caliper. GOod thing i only paid for them once (on defiler's car) so mine were free this time around.

How can i help you wibla? I wish i could steal your car......what pait color is that?

**Wibla** · 8-6-08, 15:28

its 5A, stock mazda colour actually. I thought it had been white at one point, then painted blue, but it appears it wasnt. Must be a special order, or something else..

I checked the prices today, $430 per caliper for regular calipers, $390 per caliper for 4ws ones.. this was at a Mekonomen store in norway, not a mazda dealership. gonna check that tomorrow

**DarkMx-6** · 8-6-08, 15:35

it would probably be cheaper if you buy one from the states and ship it over there

**DarkMx-6** · 8-6-08, 15:38

AutoZone.com | Vehicle Selection - Year
Check it out.

**Wibla** · 8-6-08, 15:44

I need a zip code to get any pricing and availability info on autozone, doh..

**DarkMx-6** · 8-6-08, 15:54

um, I could get them for you then ship or I think dutch asked Gavin to send him some stuff.
Find someone you can trust in the states?

**Wibla** · 8-6-08, 18:27

That won't be a problem

We're gonna examine the current calipers and do a rebuild to get it past inspection.

I'm considering putting on some stock springs for the next 7-8 months, inspection coming up, and I cant get the aftermarket springs written into the pink slip because of new rules ([fizzle]ing communist country...)

7-14-08, 22:24	#31 (permalink)
mx6GT91 Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 22 iTrader: (0)	Not 100% again..... 4WS A/C controls are push button was standard. I think the push button was an option on GT's as most Ive seen are slide control.
	BuhBye Vanessa; Helllllooo Aalina Licks Lips

7-21-08, 12:59	#32 (permalink)
DarkMx-6 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Keene, TX, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (4)	I have push button on my gt, but its so old that the buttons that change it from head to feet don't stay down. The air still blows but I have no idea where it blows.
	For Sale-- 91 White mx6 GT: Boosted N/A block, Fidanza, 9 psi, open Zebel down pipe soon to be full 2.5" , ss braided brakelines, suby calipers, F/R D/S Disks, tokico blues 04 Civic: The daily, CAI,Sloted F Disks, No muffler(sounds way better than ricers) Great on gas

7-21-08, 15:27	#33 (permalink)
monoxidechild Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: RocKForD, ChiPoC!.!.!.!, IL, USA Age: 27 iTrader: (1)	yup, mine is the same way. and im not a 4WS. but he said it was standard on the 4WS. just means i have options! lol
	*~ChiPoC~*

7-24-08, 5:16	#35 (permalink)
jesiotrot Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 24 iTrader: (1)	Interesting, the rear wheel bearing and spindle on a GV wagon is also bigger. Probably the same size.
	http://s227.photobucket.com/albums/dd200/jesiotrot/

8-6-08, 0:12	#39 (permalink)
jphillips626 4WS Freak Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: kalamazoo, MI, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (2)	I have twice replaced the rear calipers on the 4ws cars i have owned. Once on defilers 4ws car and recently on my 626 4ws. Yes they are different. I am not sure why or how. I did get a set of loaded rear calipers for only 150 for both. Funny thing is that the core was 20 more per caliper. GOod thing i only paid for them once (on defiler's car) so mine were free this time around. How can i help you wibla? I wish i could steal your car......what pait color is that?
	Noble White 626 turbo 4WS 5spd. Intake, exhaust, turbo timer =reliable daily driver. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2525741

7-22-08, 23:02	#34 (permalink)
defiler Banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Coon Rapids, MN, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (9)	Also, as I found out today, the 4ws has different rotors and wheel bearings in the rear. The wheel bearing itself is larger in diameter, while the rotor isd the same size, it just has a larger center hole to accomodate the larger wheel bearing. And since the bearing has a larger diameter, the spindle on the rear of the 4ws is larger than its 2ws counterpart.

8-5-08, 20:24	#36 (permalink)
Wibla 4ws newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Telemark, Norway Age: 24 iTrader: (0)	Seems the brake calipers in the rear is different too, can anyone verify this?

8-6-08, 15:28	#40 (permalink)
Wibla 4ws newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Telemark, Norway Age: 24 iTrader: (0)	its 5A, stock mazda colour actually. I thought it had been white at one point, then painted blue, but it appears it wasnt. Must be a special order, or something else.. I checked the prices today, $430 per caliper for regular calipers, $390 per caliper for 4ws ones.. this was at a Mekonomen store in norway, not a mazda dealership. gonna check that tomorrow
	'88 Mazda 626 2.0i-16 4ws

8-6-08, 15:35	#41 (permalink)
DarkMx-6 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Keene, TX, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (4)	it would probably be cheaper if you buy one from the states and ship it over there
	For Sale-- 91 White mx6 GT: Boosted N/A block, Fidanza, 9 psi, open Zebel down pipe soon to be full 2.5" , ss braided brakelines, suby calipers, F/R D/S Disks, tokico blues 04 Civic: The daily, CAI,Sloted F Disks, No muffler(sounds way better than ricers) Great on gas

8-6-08, 15:38	#42 (permalink)
DarkMx-6 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Keene, TX, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (4)	AutoZone.com \| Vehicle Selection - Year Check it out.
	For Sale-- 91 White mx6 GT: Boosted N/A block, Fidanza, 9 psi, open Zebel down pipe soon to be full 2.5" , ss braided brakelines, suby calipers, F/R D/S Disks, tokico blues 04 Civic: The daily, CAI,Sloted F Disks, No muffler(sounds way better than ricers) Great on gas

8-6-08, 15:44	#43 (permalink)
Wibla 4ws newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Telemark, Norway Age: 24 iTrader: (0)	I need a zip code to get any pricing and availability info on autozone, doh..
	'88 Mazda 626 2.0i-16 4ws

8-6-08, 15:54	#44 (permalink)
DarkMx-6 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Keene, TX, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (4)	um, I could get them for you then ship or I think dutch asked Gavin to send him some stuff. Find someone you can trust in the states?
	For Sale-- 91 White mx6 GT: Boosted N/A block, Fidanza, 9 psi, open Zebel down pipe soon to be full 2.5" , ss braided brakelines, suby calipers, F/R D/S Disks, tokico blues 04 Civic: The daily, CAI,Sloted F Disks, No muffler(sounds way better than ricers) Great on gas

8-6-08, 18:27	#45 (permalink)
Wibla 4ws newbie Join Date: May 2007 Location: Telemark, Norway Age: 24 iTrader: (0)	That won't be a problem We're gonna examine the current calipers and do a rebuild to get it past inspection. I'm considering putting on some stock springs for the next 7-8 months, inspection coming up, and I cant get the aftermarket springs written into the pink slip because of new rules ([fizzle]ing communist country...)
	'88 Mazda 626 2.0i-16 4ws