Comments on: 4WS Probe - Page 6

**JLCustomizing** · 2-2-09, 11:21

I think its pretty close to the same, except i woulndt have to fab parts as long as i get them all sent from japan lol.

**d0zxmustang** · 2-2-09, 12:31

I would HIGHLY recommend starting with a complete car, it would nearly be impossible to find all the parts individually needed to swap it correctly.

Heres a list of the stuff needed from a 1st gen 4WS (sure the 2nd gen is pretty similar):

-Rear Subframe
-Rear steering rack
-Rear spindles
-Rear control arms
-Rear trailing arms
-Rear 4WS Sway bar
-Complete wiring harness (and I mean complete, the 4ws wires go through the entire car)
-Control Unit
-Timer/Relay Unit
-4WS Error Light (for dash)
-Gas tank
-Fuel transfer Control Unit
-Front steering rack
-Front 4WS Sway bar
-Steering angle transfer shaft
-Front-to-rear P/S lines
-Resivor-to-front steering gear lines
-P/S resivor with low-fluid sensor
-4WS P/S Pump (basiclly two pumps in one)
-P/S Bracket (4WS specific)
-Transmission speed sensor
-Shifter mount and shift rod

**jphillips626** · 2-2-09, 13:18

shifter rods are most crucial. I would guesstimate that everyone will advise against the 1gen to 2nd gen 4ws swap...mainly because they had the 2nd gen 4ws cars in japan and AU.

**gtdreamdxbudget** · 2-11-09, 19:56

kudos on getting the 4WS setup swapped over to a probe. very few of the people here can truly say they have a car that is unique

**NSXR** · 2-14-09, 10:11

Just read thru the whole thing and I must say u did a great job.

If u wanna do something, just do it ... people tend to say nothing is possible so ignore them.

Peace
NSXR

PS: I am still waiting to see someone create the MX6/626 coupe 4WD.

**moebius** · 2-15-09, 4:48

Even better is the possible 4ws/4wd GD platform.. according to MSGTR, it is possible..

**d0zxmustang** · 2-16-09, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by moebius

Even better is the possible 4ws/4wd GD platform.. according to MSGTR, it is possible..

Its not possible...through my research, there was never a factory 4WD/4WS avalible to the public...there was talk among the mazda engineers, and maybe a prototype? But none ive heard about.

It MAY be possible to have a custom job, would have to have custom rear spindles made...

**1stGenTurbizzle** · 2-16-09, 11:59

Good stuff Doz

**NSXR** · 2-21-09, 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by d0zxmustang

Its not possible...through my research, there was never a factory 4WD/4WS avalible to the public...there was talk among the mazda engineers, and maybe a prototype? But none ive heard about.
It MAY be possible to have a custom job, would have to have custom rear spindles made...

MSGTR actually metionned that they talked bout that only.

Virtually, anything is possible ... now the question ... Is it worth the hassle?
I wouldn't go through a fabing nightmare to get 4WS personnaly ... but that is just me ...

Peace
NSXR

**STW** · 2-21-09, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by NSXR

Just read thru the whole thing and I must say u did a great job.

If u wanna do something, just do it ... people tend to say nothing is possible so ignore them.

Peace
NSXR

PS: I am still waiting to see someone create the MX6/626 coupe 4WD.

That's what I'm waiting for too! AWD MX-6 would CERTAINLY be worth the international fame!! The local inspection agents aren't too excited about the idea though

Quote:

Originally Posted by moebius

Even better is the possible 4ws/4wd GD platform.. according to MSGTR, it is possible..

The problem is the 4WS and AWD parts are considerably different to each other... the only way I can imagine is the lateral arms on AWD were replaced with hydraulic rams. Proper AWD parts don't have RWD CV joints in the rear axle,, and 4WS won't bolt on to AWD parts