HELP: Pioneer SUBs

**Redmx_tx5** · 1-4-07, 23:51

Hey guys,

I few months ago i brought a 800W sub, i was lead to belive they are 1000W

But anyways,

I have 2x 12" 800W TSW301R

Interlaced Kevlar (Aramid Fibre) Reinforced IMPP Cone
Recommended Sealed Enclosure: 35.4 Litres
400 Watts Nominal Rating
800 Watts Max. Power Handling

I was woundering if they would sound the same as a

2x 1000W 12" Inch Pioneer Sub TS-W306C

1,000 Watts Max. Power Handling
400 Watts Nominal Rating
Interlaced Kevlar (Aramid Fibre) Reinforced IMPP Cone
Recommended Sealed Enclosure: 35.4 Litres

If thats any help.

I was wounderign what i would sound better thats all? or dosnt it really matter?

**MX6_VTECH** · 1-5-07, 3:14

I heard pioneer subs kinda suck no offence dude but I heard 2 12's wiring up perfect and ehhh no. If your amp is only 740w amp and you have 2000w in subs think its enough to power them or if your running them now does anything dim when you bass hits? The doof doof in the your sig is funny

CHRI5O · 1-5-07, 3:56

I got 2 of the 1000wt ones, i got this tiny little ancient alpine amp running them and they go alright... im sure they'd be better with a decent monoblock running them!

PS... if your front bar didnt stick out like a snowplough maybe the ambo wouldnt have hit it... some ppl are asking for trouble with these tupperware kits!!!

**Evert** · 1-5-07, 6:04

And now back to original question - no, there probably will not be any difference in sound. Not because of that 200W difference in peak power anyway.

**Redmx_tx5** · 1-5-07, 6:23

yeah thanks Evert!

Quote:

..or if your running them now does anything dim when you bass hits?

Dont have them running, but my mate dose. they do doof. ah!

**kid_puma** · 1-5-07, 8:35

in that situation i would say it all depends on the box you use ....

**Malicious** · 1-5-07, 8:38

They are both 400w nominal, so as far as I'm concerned, they are the same thing.

Peak power is worthless.

**Selva** · 1-5-07, 17:01

pioneer suck, end of story... go get some Clarion or Fusion gear for cheap good quality sound... you could also try kenwood, but they are a little on the expensive side for what they are... oh and run speakers n subs on NOMINAL power only, any higher you will distortion, any lower, not enough sound, it's a mix ya gotta get right, also, if you run speakers/subs at max power the coil burns out really quick, also the cone deteriates... but yer... Im not a fan of pioneer, but what's the brand of the other ones?

p.s. max watts dont mean [shizzle].... only read rms (nominal) watts

**thrasher** · 1-5-07, 17:07

I had a 10" pioneer until I sold it, it sounded just as good as most mid end subs out there. Of course it depends on the box and amp you're useing too.

Bang for your buck they're pretty good, mine was $50 new at futureshop and could make my hair vibrate lol.

Those subs might sound different, you'd have to test them, but I bet the differences will be minimal.

1-4-07, 23:51	#1 (permalink)
Redmx_tx5 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Adelaide, Australia iTrader: (3)	HELP: Pioneer SUBs Hey guys, I few months ago i brought a 800W sub, i was lead to belive they are 1000W But anyways, I have 2x 12" 800W TSW301R Interlaced Kevlar (Aramid Fibre) Reinforced IMPP Cone Recommended Sealed Enclosure: 35.4 Litres 400 Watts Nominal Rating 800 Watts Max. Power Handling I was woundering if they would sound the same as a 2x 1000W 12" Inch Pioneer Sub TS-W306C 1,000 Watts Max. Power Handling 400 Watts Nominal Rating Interlaced Kevlar (Aramid Fibre) Reinforced IMPP Cone Recommended Sealed Enclosure: 35.4 Litres If thats any help. I was wounderign what i would sound better thats all? or dosnt it really matter?
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1-5-07, 3:14	#2 (permalink)
MX6_VTECH Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Lancaster, PA, USA Age: 23 iTrader: (0)	I heard pioneer subs kinda suck no offence dude but I heard 2 12's wiring up perfect and ehhh no. If your amp is only 740w amp and you have 2000w in subs think its enough to power them or if your running them now does anything dim when you bass hits? The doof doof in the your sig is funny
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1-5-07, 6:04	#4 (permalink)
Evert Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Tallinn, Estonia Age: 29 iTrader: (0)	And now back to original question - no, there probably will not be any difference in sound. Not because of that 200W difference in peak power anyway.
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1-5-07, 8:35	#6 (permalink)
kid_puma Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ottawa,Ontario (Nations Capital), Canada Age: 25 iTrader: (1)	in that situation i would say it all depends on the box you use ....
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1-5-07, 17:07	#9 (permalink)
thrasher Join Date: May 2003 Location: Gold Coast, Australia Age: 22 iTrader: (0)	I had a 10" pioneer until I sold it, it sounded just as good as most mid end subs out there. Of course it depends on the box and amp you're useing too. Bang for your buck they're pretty good, mine was $50 new at futureshop and could make my hair vibrate lol. Those subs might sound different, you'd have to test them, but I bet the differences will be minimal.
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1-5-07, 3:56	#3 (permalink)
CHRI5O Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Perth, Australia Age: 23 iTrader: (0)	I got 2 of the 1000wt ones, i got this tiny little ancient alpine amp running them and they go alright... im sure they'd be better with a decent monoblock running them! PS... if your front bar didnt stick out like a snowplough maybe the ambo wouldnt have hit it... some ppl are asking for trouble with these tupperware kits!!!

1-5-07, 8:38	#7 (permalink)
Malicious Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Stoney Creek, Ontario, Canada Age: 26 iTrader: (0)	They are both 400w nominal, so as far as I'm concerned, they are the same thing. Peak power is worthless.