Freds new he351cw turbo, 44mm chinese vband tial knock off wastegate and S14 K BPV. - Page 2

**fredio54** · 2-20-07, 5:14

http://www.globalnetspace.com/m2.gif

test fitted the turbo in the bay tonight, as i'm getting it clocked tomorrow.

has to be low mount like that one.

finished the wastegate plugging some time ago, have done a lot, and posted little to nothing. no time...

waste gate is assembled and tightened with a norlock washer holding it together, and an fe3 inner valve spring on the opposite side to where the stock 15psi spring would be. ie, all open all the time (for initial tuning.)

cant wait to weld up the mani...

**rebel2k4** · 3-2-07, 22:42

excellent post fred. and that friends, is why the hy35 creeps to 13-14 psi on my kl even with an open gate hole. 22mm is not enough for that darn hy, its one efficient son of a beotch!

**fredio54** · 3-3-07, 1:57

good luck porting it as discussed. :-)

**fredio54** · 4-11-07, 15:37

rebels results were good, same power, less boost, more advance, leaner mixtures :-) he just doesnt post much anymore...

**fredio54** · 4-11-07, 15:38

individual post showing links to avoid seeing a bunch of stuff that you dont wanna see :

http://www.mx6.com/forums/1767555-post61.html (Freds FE3 into the ute swap DONT POST HERE.)
http://www.mx6.com/forums/1769908-post64.html (Freds FE3 into the ute swap DONT POST HERE.)

more to come...

fred.

**fredio54** · 5-28-07, 8:54

ok, update, silvia BOV out, R32 skyline GTR godzilla BOV pair in ;-)

that ought to flow enough and definitely holds the pressure sweet. 2" dedicated feed might be tricky to plumb though, we will see...

fred.

**fredio54** · 5-29-07, 2:01

just to put the gtr ones into perspective...

the s14 silvia makes about 250ps 240hp, and uses the one on the left :-)

i'm guessing nissan had plans for the skyline above and beyond what they put out stock ;-)

fred.

**SixSick6** · 5-30-07, 11:26

You could probably put a restrictor orifice in one of the lines and get a twin turbo sound as one would open slightly later than the other. We're talking less than a second difference but probably just enough to hear a difference in sound.

**fredio54** · 5-30-07, 16:18

As you know sick, i am ALL about look and sound ;-)

fred.

**SixSick6** · 5-30-07, 16:29

I know you could care less about the sound (as could I) but it's definately worth a shot for performance as well as sound. I'm betting you could get a delayed sound of a TT using your single turbo without a loss in performance.

http://www.mx6.com/forums/1g-mx6-for...-pictures.html (Brass Restrictor Pictures)

That's all you'll need.

**fredio54** · 10-15-07, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by fredio54

stock s14 = 250hp i wont beat double that...

lol, famous last words :-) double that is doable, its only a matter of time, compression and octane.

**fredio54** · 10-15-07, 14:30

given that i bumped this to laugh at myself, i thought i'd redeem myself to you by posting a vid i never bothered to edit and post before. its not that great, kinda dull, but good to listen to.

its of the dash of the ute, but you can hear it spooling up at about 2000 part throttle just at the start before my mate laughs, and then some more low and not quite low rpm spooling later. none of it exceeds about 4500 and 12psi. only the last one even comes close to that.

YouTube - low rpm boost holset he351cw

enjoy if you can be bothered.

fred.

**fredio54** · 10-15-07, 17:30

one of the threads a friend just found that i found when i was looking, and hadnt found since despite looking :

Holset HE351/HY35 56K beware - TurboDodge.Com - Turbo Dodge forum for Turbo Mopars, Shelbys, Daytona, SRT-4, PT Cruiser, Omni and more!

contains dimensions and closeups and a link to a photo account with more closeups etc.

fred.

**zlyricist** · 10-18-07, 16:01

thanks for the link. this will help me decide what im going to go with on my build

**fredio54** · 10-23-07, 5:46

new info that i just calculated :

i initially calculated 18.2 psi for the wastegate assuming 1:1 exhaust:intake pressure ratio, as you can see in my datalogs, it was pretty close, it made 17.5. i'd forgotten doing those calcs, see first post in this thread for them.

i just worked out what my exhaust back pressure is based on those measurements, and this is it :

Google

20.2 psi in the ex manifold on boost. nice! very efficient. it will be interesting to see where it sits on higher boost pressures as with 0psi in the exhaust manifold there was 3.5psi in the intake. so its obviously not exactly linear.

interesting stuff i thought!

fred.

2-20-07, 5:14	#16 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	http://www.globalnetspace.com/m2.gif test fitted the turbo in the bay tonight, as i'm getting it clocked tomorrow. has to be low mount like that one. finished the wastegate plugging some time ago, have done a lot, and posted little to nothing. no time... waste gate is assembled and tightened with a norlock washer holding it together, and an fe3 inner valve spring on the opposite side to where the stock 15psi spring would be. ie, all open all the time (for initial tuning.) cant wait to weld up the mani...
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3-2-07, 22:42	#17 (permalink)
rebel2k4 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: 5900 ft above you aka the highest elevation state in the USA, CO, USA Age: 23 iTrader: (1)	excellent post fred. and that friends, is why the hy35 creeps to 13-14 psi on my kl even with an open gate hole. 22mm is not enough for that darn hy, its one efficient son of a beotch!
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3-3-07, 1:57	#18 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	good luck porting it as discussed. :-)
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?

4-11-07, 15:37	#19 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	rebels results were good, same power, less boost, more advance, leaner mixtures :-) he just doesnt post much anymore...
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?

4-11-07, 15:38	#20 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	individual post showing links to avoid seeing a bunch of stuff that you dont wanna see : http://www.mx6.com/forums/1767555-post61.html (Freds FE3 into the ute swap DONT POST HERE.) http://www.mx6.com/forums/1769908-post64.html (Freds FE3 into the ute swap DONT POST HERE.) more to come... fred.
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?

5-28-07, 8:54	#21 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	ok, update, silvia BOV out, R32 skyline GTR godzilla BOV pair in ;-) that ought to flow enough and definitely holds the pressure sweet. 2" dedicated feed might be tricky to plumb though, we will see... fred.
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?

5-29-07, 2:01	#22 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	just to put the gtr ones into perspective... the s14 silvia makes about 250ps 240hp, and uses the one on the left :-) i'm guessing nissan had plans for the skyline above and beyond what they put out stock ;-) fred.
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?

5-30-07, 11:26	#23 (permalink)
SixSick6 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Age: 32 iTrader: (2)	You could probably put a restrictor orifice in one of the lines and get a twin turbo sound as one would open slightly later than the other. We're talking less than a second difference but probably just enough to hear a difference in sound.

5-30-07, 16:18	#24 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	As you know sick, i am ALL about look and sound ;-) fred.
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?

5-30-07, 16:29	#25 (permalink)
SixSick6 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego, CA, USA Age: 32 iTrader: (2)	I know you could care less about the sound (as could I) but it's definately worth a shot for performance as well as sound. I'm betting you could get a delayed sound of a TT using your single turbo without a loss in performance. http://www.mx6.com/forums/1g-mx6-for...-pictures.html (Brass Restrictor Pictures) That's all you'll need.

10-15-07, 14:30	#27 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	given that i bumped this to laugh at myself, i thought i'd redeem myself to you by posting a vid i never bothered to edit and post before. its not that great, kinda dull, but good to listen to. its of the dash of the ute, but you can hear it spooling up at about 2000 part throttle just at the start before my mate laughs, and then some more low and not quite low rpm spooling later. none of it exceeds about 4500 and 12psi. only the last one even comes close to that. YouTube - low rpm boost holset he351cw enjoy if you can be bothered. fred.
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?

10-15-07, 17:30	#28 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	one of the threads a friend just found that i found when i was looking, and hadnt found since despite looking : Holset HE351/HY35 56K beware - TurboDodge.Com - Turbo Dodge forum for Turbo Mopars, Shelbys, Daytona, SRT-4, PT Cruiser, Omni and more! contains dimensions and closeups and a link to a photo account with more closeups etc. fred.
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?

10-18-07, 16:01	#29 (permalink)
zlyricist Join Date: May 2004 Location: arvada, CO, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (5)	thanks for the link. this will help me decide what im going to go with on my build
	91 GT - 95 LS 06 maxima - the daily

10-23-07, 5:46	#30 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	new info that i just calculated : i initially calculated 18.2 psi for the wastegate assuming 1:1 exhaust:intake pressure ratio, as you can see in my datalogs, it was pretty close, it made 17.5. i'd forgotten doing those calcs, see first post in this thread for them. i just worked out what my exhaust back pressure is based on those measurements, and this is it : Google 20.2 psi in the ex manifold on boost. nice! very efficient. it will be interesting to see where it sits on higher boost pressures as with 0psi in the exhaust manifold there was 3.5psi in the intake. so its obviously not exactly linear. interesting stuff i thought! fred.
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?