The Big MegaSquirt Info Thread...

[fredio54]

yeah, i see it now (blind), BUT, my cas was off an old mx5 engine, and has the two slots... so i dont know quite whats going on there. either way, the fe3 wheel appears to be nice.

fred.

[eraezer]

MS2 PCB v3.0
MS2 EXTRA, beta release 2007-08-18
Triggerd directly from coil
Stock ign.

I missed this when I flashed my MS with the beta code:
If you want to use the latest stable release of the extra code or if you want to use the regular MS2 code you can use the MS-II Download program.
But that did not work when I tried to flash with the beta code.
BUT! Inside the extra code folder (the one you get when you have extracted the zip file containing the code) there is a file called "ms2dl.exe". Use this file and follow the instructions.

Here is the thread where I got help while building my MS2:
http://www.mx6.com/forums/fe-dohc/16...rs-please.html (Megasquirt2 questions, need quick answers please)

[Draggin88]

MS2 version 3.0
Ford EDIS ignition utilizing stock KIA coil packs
Motor is a 2001 Kia sportage FE3 with a custom aluminum intake using oem mazda fe3 flange (thanks dutch) and a miata 1.8 exhaust manifold
36-1 trigger wheel mounted to crank pulley with custom VR sensor mount off oil pump housing.
I'm using a mustang 65 mm throttle body.

Stainless log style turbo manifold is being built, huge turbo is ready to boost.

All of this in a b2200 truck! Me and Fredio are brothers from another mother, deep down under cover, there is no other!

[fredio54]

James, have you upgraded to the v2 ms2e code yet? i dont know if you had any issues, but its the way to go by a country mile :-)

fred.

[fredio54]

Originally Posted by Draggin88

Stainless log style turbo manifold is being built, huge turbo is ready to boost.

how huge, what ya got, and wheres ya thread?? :-) you have to keep me entertained now that i'm stuck in smelly old england.

All of this in a b2200 truck! Me and Fredio are brothers from another mother, deep down under cover, there is no other!

hmmm, did your old man pay a visit to nz at some point in 79' ?

;-) keep up the good work!

[Draggin88]

v2 ms2e? When was it released? I'm on a 6 month old program at least. Been on the same tune for awhile. I'm runnin pretty well.

My turbo is a to4e - i think that's right? It's a huge turbo on my friends mx-6 right now. It was professionally built by my favorite machinist around these here parts. I know it's capable of producing 600 hp. It's probably too big, but that's ok with me. It's on Mazdamiester's car right now ( he's on mx-6.com).

Fredio was born in 79'- man that was a good year, I was born in 79' as well. Now it'd be really wierd if we have the same birthday- mine is 1/11/79

[fredio54]

Originally Posted by Draggin88

v2 ms2e? When was it released? I'm on a 6 month old program at least. Been on the same tune for awhile. I'm runnin pretty well.

about next week ;-) but the betas are really good already! that code is definitely where you want to be with it. it has a number of enhancements that arent in the stock code. infact if you stock code is that old, even moving to the latest version (wont require the slight retune ms2e will) is going to be a good thing. the retune is because all the fueling calcs have been rewritten to be much more accurate. its much better in many many many ways. you should move their asap before applying boost. then you have the best possible base to work from.

My turbo is a to4e - i think that's right? It's a huge turbo on my friends mx-6 right now. It was professionally built by my favorite machinist around these here parts. I know it's capable of producing 600 hp. It's probably too big, but that's ok with me. It's on Mazdamiester's car right now ( he's on mx-6.com).

no idea what size that is, but when i get a minute later, i'll be looking it up and seeing.

Fredio was born in 79'- man that was a good year, I was born in 79' as well. Now it'd be really wierd if we have the same birthday- mine is 1/11/79

nah, i have a few months more wrinkles than you ;-)

[bakmans]

nevver realy understood the big advantage of ms2. sure the processor is faster but for engine management you dont realy need such a fast processor. and there are far more features for the ms1 as for the ms2. ( at least that i know of.
as far as i know ms2 cant use double fuel and spark maps

[fredio54]

oh yes it can! the reason fast becomes important are those extra features, and performing calculations to extra precision. the ms2e code can do calcs to a very high level of precision, better than a lot of the brand name ecus can.

the devs do say that its fine in terms of speed, but they do have to optimise the code to work ok at high rpm each time they mess with it. if it was faster again, that dev effort could go into feature development. they are at the edge of the amount of space available though, there isnt much more room for code to fit on the die. and thats using the bit of the die that motorola dont specify is usable ;-) (the manufacturers make em all at 128k and just stamp and sell them differently)

fred.

[bakmans]

so a ms2 CAN do double fual and spark maps???? can it also do boost control?

[fredio54]

question, why do you want dual maps? thats for [shizzle]ty v8 dudes and nitrous sniffers.

it can indeed do boost control. i cant wait to try it out!! :-)

fred.

[eraezer]

Originally Posted by bakmans

so a ms2 CAN do double fual and spark maps???? can it also do boost control?

yes ms2e can

[bakmans]

question, why do you want dual maps? thats for [shizzle]ty v8 dudes and nitrous sniffers.

im running lpg also. that needs different timing and different afr. so at least double maps would be nice.

one thing i dont understand about ms is why they name al the features on the ms1 and dont name it for the ms2. so if im right al the features for the ms1 can work with the ms2? can the ms2 also load the msns extra code? ( the one that gives me double maps and bc and al the nice stuff?)

[fredio54]

Originally Posted by bakmans

im running lpg also. that needs different timing and different afr. so at least double maps would be nice.

ok, fair enough.

one thing i dont understand about ms is why they name al the features on the ms1 and dont name it for the ms2. so if im right al the features for the ms1 can work with the ms2? can the ms2 also load the msns extra code? ( the one that gives me double maps and bc and al the nice stuff?)

i dont understand what you mean? features named?

the first thing to understand is that ms1 and ms2 is like pc and mac software wise. they are totally different because the hardware is totally different too. secondly, the feature sets are different too. they havent developed various features in ms2e (the equiv of msnsextra) because no one used them in msnsextra.

ms2e is by far the best code you can run in a ms, and quite possibly better than most or all other ecu brands too. brilliant.

see this for feature and setup details :

MS2/Extra Manual Index

fred.

[lundgren420]

how much did it innitialy cost yyou for your setup. MS v1, v2, or v3 , and ignition system sensors, crank trigger, VR sensor, and wideband O2(if you arnt going to use it than why bother with MS), and for thoes of you using it EGT. I am currently close to completion of my F8 to FE3N-T stroker and there is know piont in using the F2t ecu and sensors. I feel this will help others as well.