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Old 9-30-07, 9:53   #31 (permalink)
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i never ever sold a set of those injectors
just for prosperity, because i KNOW HOW YOU LIKE TO EDIT POSTS TO SUIT...

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Old 10-4-07, 18:47   #32 (permalink)
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Repost but, I love this:



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lol, i can link you to a bunch more of the jail bait ones on another car forum is you want. just pm me.

i need to post some pm contents in this thread soon.

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oh how afraid i am

frauds latest tanty :

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dont talk to me you wont like what will end up happening


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and im not going to answer it i left you with a challenge either take it or not dont argue it! i think i said i bet you $1000 i can build a manifold that bolt on will make full boost 1000rpm sooner! as for single scrol pulsing look at the insane datsun 1200 drag car that is an example of correct pulsing!
this car :



has its runners merge in firing order.

i dislike that manifold for a number of reasons, however, yes, there is a small scavenging advantage from having the cylinders ordered like that as compared to my non ordered approach.

there is not going to be a significant spool advantage simply because of the fact that its the energy that the waves carry that causes the turbo to spin. the only effect that doing that will have is to leave the cylinder slightly more empty and thus with more room for new mix. it would be fully marginal though, and would be offset by the loss from the turbulence of the short radius bends, and the fact that different cylinders have significantly different paths to follow to the merge point.

in mine, all paths are precisely equal. the only variations are from the order of the sections that the gas moves through (2&3 hit a radius before a straight, and 1&4 hit a straight before the radius etc) and the small cock up i had with number three runner meaning its about 4mm shorter on the inside radius and about the same as the other one on the outside radius.

i then suggested that we make it a case of beer and give it a whirl when i get back. the response i got was this :

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nah man i play big $1000
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dunno about that, i reckon you just play with yourself.
TBC...

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this car :



has its runners merge in firing order.

i dislike that manifold for a number of reasons, however, yes, there is a small scavenging advantage from having the cylinders ordered like that as compared to my non ordered approach.

there is not going to be a significant spool advantage simply because of the fact that its the energy that the waves carry that causes the turbo to spin. the only effect that doing that will have is to leave the cylinder slightly more empty and thus with more room for new mix. it would be fully marginal though, and would be offset by the loss from the turbulence of the short radius bends, and the fact that different cylinders have significantly different paths to follow to the merge point.

in mine, all paths are precisely equal. the only variations are from the order of the sections that the gas moves through (2&3 hit a radius before a straight, and 1&4 hit a straight before the radius etc) and the small cock up i had with number three runner meaning its about 4mm shorter on the inside radius and about the same as the other one on the outside radius.

i then suggested that we make it a case of beer and give it a whirl when i get back. the response i got was this :



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TBC...

well the above is a multi record holding car with mid seven second passes down. and if ya so certain take my challenge! its not my favourite manifold eithe but its a clear example eriks and 50 killers are pulsed the same and others
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its a light well setup package pushing high boost and high rpm, there is no surprise that with massive slicks it cuts a good time. its roughly 1:1 hp:kg.

the manifold is good, but not brilliant, i'm 100% certain that mine would outflow it in pure volume of air moved. i'm also 100% sure that his, mine, and your backyard manis would all outflow virtually any log mani.

i've listed why i built mine how i did, and in great detail. if you cant read and comprehend well enough to understand it, thats your problem. i'm 100% satisfied with the outcome, and its performance.

how about you take my challenge. its not like you lose anything, you just end up with another spare fe3 manifold which you will use at some stage.

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Old 4-21-08, 12:39   #38 (permalink)
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The Fe3 is a great motor, however I like the whole rotary thing, might not be entirely reliable but once you learn how to change apex seals, its basically like changing your oil..
Definitely worth a laugh! :-)

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