Scat Forged Rods Bulk Buy !!

**shwine617** · 1-16-08, 7:32

THIS THREAD HAS BEEN EDITED BY A MODERATOR.

THIS IS POTENTIALLY A SCAM, AND UNTIL IT IS RESOLVED, NO FURTHER THREADS, EXCEPT THE ONES STICKIED HERE, WILL BE ALLOWED. THIS THREAD IS LOCKED INORDER TO MAINTAIN THE "QFT" INFORMATION WITHIN. A DISCUSSION THREAD HAS BEEN CREATED.

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I wanted to buy forged rods for my fe3, but I couldn't find any except for the $700 pauter machine ones. I use scat rods in my camaro and love them, it was under $200 for a set of 8 forged rods with arp hardware. anyway I decided to contact them about making some for the fe3/kia. They responded with an awsome price, but I hope we can get enough people.
Here's the email he sent back:

Thank you for thinking of SCAT for your connecting rods need. For us to do
the rods for you, we would require an order of 180 pieces @ $65 each. We would
require an 50% deposit and two sample rods. You ETA would be 90 to 120 days to
have built. I attached a custom rod form to this email, we would need for that
to be completed and return to start everything.

Rod specs:
Forged H-beam rods
4340 Steel
Heat Treated
Shot Peened
ARP 2000 bolts
balanced within +/- 1 gram
He said they are good for around 1000hp and 10,000 rpm

thats $260 for four forged rods!!
So we need 45 people to buy a set of four.

THESE CAN BE SHIPPED WORLDWIDE!

THE LIST:

Shwine617 2 sets
Shqs89gt 2 sets
Zlyricist 2 sets
STW 2 sets
Stroker 2 sets
Cam22t 2 sets
Mazda929 2 sets
Jesiotrot 2 sets
Eraezer 2 sets
Casejunkie 2 set
PGTF2T 1 set
Fe3t B2200 1 set
MidnightCamaro 1 set
Chief Tool 1 set
Dino 1 set
Keeloh 1 set
Martinsen 1 set
Defboy35 1 set
Alwaysbrokenmx6 1 set
Monoxidechild 1 set
M2cupcar 1 set
Dutch 1 set
Racer_smokm1 1 set
MesXco6rt 1 set
Mazdafreaks 1 set
LostSoulMiata 1 set
Rbluemx6 1 set
BoostedBseries 1 set
Bpt323 1 set
funhouse75 1 set
Bakmans 1 set
NL626gt 1 set
LMB 1 set
Zoom 1 set
Gmans89gt 1 set
G0llyw0g 1 set
TOTAL 46 sets !!!

**lundgren420** · 1-16-08, 7:36

insane!!! Now i have it together and its not comming apart.

**Casejunkie** · 1-16-08, 8:03

I'm in! 1 set.

But I think it will be hard to get 45 sets. But I hope you will be lucky.

**shqs89gt** · 1-16-08, 11:18

I'm in for a set,maybe 2.Will this also include ARP hardware.

**shwine617** · 1-16-08, 11:24

it should include arp hardware, I sent him an email this morning asking it they are I beam or H beam and if they come with arp hardware, so when I get the email I will post it up.

**rustyfanz** · 1-16-08, 11:35

i hate to be a debbie downer here but ill say it before Sick posts it...I doubt you get 45 people to commit to buy something, even for that price...

There have been numerous "bulk buys" for stuff from custom headers to lightweight pulleys...none have ever gone through...

Its not that people may not want them but the site is waning in amounts of people as our car grows older and older....id guess about a 1/4 to a 1/2 of the people on this site are highschoolers who this is there first car and their just looking for a way to maintain it until they can get something better (speaking from experience...not the last part but the first...)

Also, the chance of 45 different, active, people that will be able to pay on time see this and sign up is slim to none...

I hope you do however get lucky....thats why im posting so this stays at the top....good luck to ya

**zlyricist** · 1-16-08, 11:39

blah blah blah we've already heard everyone crying about bulk buys 100 times

but schwin for that price, im most definitely in

maybe fred or someone can let the aussies know, they might be interested, especially at that price

i'd pay up to 4-500$ if more money is needed for a smaller group buy. definitely let me know

**fredio54** · 1-16-08, 17:33

SCAT is nice gear, but you need to provide more specs.

tensile strength of the fasteners, like you said, I or H, physical thickness/size compared to stock in terms of girth for boost, dimensions of bolts in terms of diameter of the shank for a basic layman comparison with stock.

expected max sustained rpm with X gram piston/pin combo on the end at Z stroke, etc.

I'd be looking to get flash rods to either
A spin higher than 7500 on stock stroke
B spin higher than 6800 on 2.2 stroke
C handle more than 15 - 20psi in either case

If they are specced appropriately then that price is VERY nice indeed. What rpm/torque/stroke figures did you specify to him?

It would be nice to see him say "they will handle X ftlb each to Y rpm with Z stroke.

Even then though, sadly, i cant be in on this :-|

Good on you for trying, i wish you the best of luck.

I was surprised by the last bulk buy, but this one is even higher in required numbers, though, it is a good deal. fingers crossed! :-)

fred.

midnightcamaro · 1-17-08, 3:44

im in on it, but at the same time its like fredio54 said he brought up some good points....get back with us on the rest of the details, and well go from there. thanks for trying for us shwine617

**chief tool** · 1-17-08, 4:24

Yeah, I may be interested pending some more detail.....
My application, I'd probably get away with stock rods, but at that price...I could easily have my arm twised, after all I havent put the thing together yet...

**bakmans** · 1-18-08, 5:41

is this is about rods for the stock fe3 crank? sice there are so much f2ts on this forum why dont we make them for the 2.2 crank. along with the f2t pistons this would make a verry nice compressionratio.
id be in for one set but only for the 2.2 crank!

**Casejunkie** · 1-18-08, 6:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by bakmans

is this is about rods for the stock fe3 crank? sice there are so much f2ts on this forum why dont we make them for the 2.2 crank. along with the f2t pistons this would make a verry nice compressionratio.
id be in for one set but only for the 2.2 crank!

So you want a rod that's 4mm shorter than the original fe3 rod, correct?

**bakmans** · 1-18-08, 7:49

jep! this way you can use the f2t pistons and get a compresion rate from round about 8. ( calculated this a while back but dont remember exactly)

**fredio54** · 1-18-08, 8:56

but you'd have a hideous rod ratio :-(

**bakmans** · 1-18-08, 9:06

looked that up to and its not that horrible.
can lookit up again if you like?

1-16-08, 7:32	#1 (permalink)
shwine617 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Spotswood, NJ, USA Age: 23 iTrader: (0)	Scat Forged Rods Bulk Buy !! THIS THREAD HAS BEEN EDITED BY A MODERATOR. THIS IS POTENTIALLY A SCAM, AND UNTIL IT IS RESOLVED, NO FURTHER THREADS, EXCEPT THE ONES STICKIED HERE, WILL BE ALLOWED. THIS THREAD IS LOCKED INORDER TO MAINTAIN THE "QFT" INFORMATION WITHIN. A DISCUSSION THREAD HAS BEEN CREATED. ------------------------------------------------------- I wanted to buy forged rods for my fe3, but I couldn't find any except for the $700 pauter machine ones. I use scat rods in my camaro and love them, it was under $200 for a set of 8 forged rods with arp hardware. anyway I decided to contact them about making some for the fe3/kia. They responded with an awsome price, but I hope we can get enough people. Here's the email he sent back: Thank you for thinking of SCAT for your connecting rods need. For us to do the rods for you, we would require an order of 180 pieces @ $65 each. We would require an 50% deposit and two sample rods. You ETA would be 90 to 120 days to have built. I attached a custom rod form to this email, we would need for that to be completed and return to start everything. Rod specs: Forged H-beam rods 4340 Steel Heat Treated Shot Peened ARP 2000 bolts balanced within +/- 1 gram He said they are good for around 1000hp and 10,000 rpm thats $260 for four forged rods!! So we need 45 people to buy a set of four. THESE CAN BE SHIPPED WORLDWIDE! THE LIST: Shwine617 2 sets Shqs89gt 2 sets Zlyricist 2 sets STW 2 sets Stroker 2 sets Cam22t 2 sets Mazda929 2 sets Jesiotrot 2 sets Eraezer 2 sets Casejunkie 2 set PGTF2T 1 set Fe3t B2200 1 set MidnightCamaro 1 set Chief Tool 1 set Dino 1 set Keeloh 1 set Martinsen 1 set Defboy35 1 set Alwaysbrokenmx6 1 set Monoxidechild 1 set M2cupcar 1 set Dutch 1 set Racer_smokm1 1 set MesXco6rt 1 set Mazdafreaks 1 set LostSoulMiata 1 set Rbluemx6 1 set BoostedBseries 1 set Bpt323 1 set funhouse75 1 set Bakmans 1 set NL626gt 1 set LMB 1 set Zoom 1 set Gmans89gt 1 set G0llyw0g 1 set TOTAL 46 sets !!! Last edited by Goatcrapp : 7-19-08 at 9:31.
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1-16-08, 7:36	#2 (permalink)
lundgren420 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: OZARK, MO, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (6)	insane!!! Now i have it together and its not comming apart.
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1-16-08, 8:03	#3 (permalink)
Casejunkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bavel, The Netherlands Age: 22 iTrader: (0)	I'm in! 1 set. But I think it will be hard to get 45 sets. But I hope you will be lucky.
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1-16-08, 11:18	#4 (permalink)
shqs89gt Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Parkville, MD, USA Age: 26 iTrader: (0)	I'm in for a set,maybe 2.Will this also include ARP hardware.
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1-16-08, 11:24	#5 (permalink)
shwine617 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Spotswood, NJ, USA Age: 23 iTrader: (0)	it should include arp hardware, I sent him an email this morning asking it they are I beam or H beam and if they come with arp hardware, so when I get the email I will post it up.
	90 MX6 GT http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2036393 Stock: 15.446 @ 88.78 F2T Best: 12.71 @ 104 FE3T: 11.941 @ 99.03 (missed 4th) Best MPH: 12.24 @ 117.03 videos:http://videos.streetfire.net/uploaded/Shwine617.htm

1-16-08, 11:35	#6 (permalink)
rustyfanz Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: North Platte, NE, USA Age: 18 iTrader: (0)	i hate to be a debbie downer here but ill say it before Sick posts it...I doubt you get 45 people to commit to buy something, even for that price... There have been numerous "bulk buys" for stuff from custom headers to lightweight pulleys...none have ever gone through... Its not that people may not want them but the site is waning in amounts of people as our car grows older and older....id guess about a 1/4 to a 1/2 of the people on this site are highschoolers who this is there first car and their just looking for a way to maintain it until they can get something better (speaking from experience...not the last part but the first...) Also, the chance of 45 different, active, people that will be able to pay on time see this and sign up is slim to none... I hope you do however get lucky....thats why im posting so this stays at the top....good luck to ya
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1-16-08, 11:39	#7 (permalink)
zlyricist Join Date: May 2004 Location: arvada, CO, USA Age: 23 iTrader: (4)	blah blah blah we've already heard everyone crying about bulk buys 100 times but schwin for that price, im most definitely in maybe fred or someone can let the aussies know, they might be interested, especially at that price i'd pay up to 4-500$ if more money is needed for a smaller group buy. definitely let me know
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1-16-08, 17:33	#8 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	SCAT is nice gear, but you need to provide more specs. tensile strength of the fasteners, like you said, I or H, physical thickness/size compared to stock in terms of girth for boost, dimensions of bolts in terms of diameter of the shank for a basic layman comparison with stock. expected max sustained rpm with X gram piston/pin combo on the end at Z stroke, etc. I'd be looking to get flash rods to either A spin higher than 7500 on stock stroke B spin higher than 6800 on 2.2 stroke C handle more than 15 - 20psi in either case If they are specced appropriately then that price is VERY nice indeed. What rpm/torque/stroke figures did you specify to him? It would be nice to see him say "they will handle X ftlb each to Y rpm with Z stroke. Even then though, sadly, i cant be in on this :-\| Good on you for trying, i wish you the best of luck. I was surprised by the last bulk buy, but this one is even higher in required numbers, though, it is a good deal. fingers crossed! :-) fred.
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1-17-08, 3:44	#9 (permalink)
midnightcamaro Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: , SC, USA Age: 25 iTrader: (1)	im in on it, but at the same time its like fredio54 said he brought up some good points....get back with us on the rest of the details, and well go from there. thanks for trying for us shwine617

1-17-08, 4:24	#10 (permalink)
chief tool Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 35 iTrader: (1)	Yeah, I may be interested pending some more detail..... My application, I'd probably get away with stock rods, but at that price...I could easily have my arm twised, after all I havent put the thing together yet...

1-18-08, 5:41	#11 (permalink)
bakmans Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: uden, holland Age: 26 iTrader: (1)	is this is about rods for the stock fe3 crank? sice there are so much f2ts on this forum why dont we make them for the 2.2 crank. along with the f2t pistons this would make a verry nice compressionratio. id be in for one set but only for the 2.2 crank!

1-18-08, 7:49	#13 (permalink)
bakmans Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: uden, holland Age: 26 iTrader: (1)	jep! this way you can use the f2t pistons and get a compresion rate from round about 8. ( calculated this a while back but dont remember exactly)

1-18-08, 8:56	#14 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	but you'd have a hideous rod ratio :-(
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?

1-18-08, 9:06	#15 (permalink)
bakmans Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: uden, holland Age: 26 iTrader: (1)	looked that up to and its not that horrible. can lookit up again if you like?