2.2 Stroker DOHC by STW

[fredio54]

Well, I've never seen a fwd oil light on under any conditions on or off the track. Yes there are other benefits, but that is the one of the highest concern, the others are just nice to have. It's a lot of expense and complexity to add for "nice to have" if you ask me, but I would LOVE to see it on there :-)

ps, you forgot to capitalise "lot" > "...are a LOT less than..."

;-)

[SixSick6]

Originally Posted by STW

Hm, never heard of one, but I'm all ears...

Well they're actually made for the Miata but the maker has posted them for the 323 B6 as well as posted that he'd make other sets if there was genuine interest. Here's an example:
MX-5 Miata Forum - Billet oil pump gears

And here is the maker:

MiataRoadster : Billet Steel Oil Pump Gears

[STW]

Originally Posted by fredio54

Well, I've never seen a fwd oil light on under any conditions on or off the track. Yes there are other benefits, but that is the one of the highest concern, the others are just nice to have. It's a lot of expense and complexity to add for "nice to have" if you ask me, but I would LOVE to see it on there :-)

ps, you forgot to capitalise "lot" > "...are a LOT less than..."

;-)

Exactly, it's a "nice to have", I'm just wondering if it's nice enough to blow a grand on it... I don't need to install it right away, that's easy enough to do while the engine is in the car and yeah, a LOT less.

Originally Posted by SixSick6

Well they're actually made for the Miata but the maker has posted them for the 323 B6 as well as posted that he'd make other sets if there was genuine interest. Here's an example:
MX-5 Miata Forum - Billet oil pump gears

And here is the maker:

MiataRoadster : Billet Steel Oil Pump Gears

Hey, that's great info, thanks! Certainly something I must look into.

[STW]

I asked for a quote on the HLA's from the local Mazda dealer. It's

$118.55

for one.

At least that made it very clear how to proceed with the lifters.

[DarkMx-6]

Are the lifters the same from the f2t? Could you use kia lifters?

[STW]

Originally Posted by DarkMx-6

Are the lifters the same from the f2t? Could you use kia lifters?

Not the same as the F2T, and I don't think KIA would be significantly less expensive. Sportages aren't that common around here.

[DarkMx-6]

My idea is I could get you some for a lot less over here then ship them to you. If

[shwine617]

$12 each on here.... Import Performance Parts - Import Performance Engine & Racing Parts

[DarkMx-6]

Or I guess you could just order them yourself. It would probably be better...

[chief tool]

Originally Posted by STW

I asked for a quote on the HLA's from the local Mazda dealer. It's

$118.55

for one.

At least that made it very clear how to proceed with the lifters.

Thats insane...thats nearly $2k to do the whole motor....I guess they dont plan to sell all that many...

[STW]

I'll first try to clean them, and then see what to do next.

Speaking about cleaning, I gave a good soak on the parts in strong cleaning agent. Took quite a bit of the grime off.

The VICS looks like it could use a bit of porting and intake radiusing. I was thinking about cleaning all the ports on the manifold, open the VICS chamber, radius the intakes and keep the butterflies. There's quite sharp corners that really interfere with the flow. An obsessed builder might fabricate a radiused insert over the VICS ports to further improve the flow.

[shwine617]

Since you're going turbo, take that vics crap out. It doesn't help at all. I noticed a huge difference when I removed mine. You can look on my cardomain link to see what I did to mine, you don't have to go that far but at least take the butterflies out and some of the wall.

[chief tool]

Or maybe use the F8 manifold....I dont think it has the VICS...lundgren420 has an F8 one his ?

[STW]

Originally Posted by chief tool

Or maybe use the F8 manifold....I dont think it has the VICS...lundgren420 has an F8 one his ?

That's not how it works. Stock manifold works best at low RPM, VICS was added for increased flow. F8 head which lacks the option will not have the flow VICS version has, ever.

If the VICS chamber breathing can be made sufficient, then having functional VICS is no hinderance. On the contrary, since there's really little boost up to 3500 RPM, having a functional VICS is a real benefit. Each butterfly is 42mm in diameter, they're rather large. If the chamber breathing can be improved, so can be high rpm/boost breathing.

Bottom line? VICS stays. It's not debatable.

[shwine617]

to each his own, it will help the low end but i think for big power with a large turbo, removing it would be more benificial.
Just so you know, I am not trying to start an argument with you. I respect everyone's opinion, especially yours Karri. Thats why I post on here, to get other people's opinons on my thoughts.