Pulstar Pulse Plugs????

**jlpicard6** · 6-17-07, 20:50

How Pulse Plugs Work | Pulstar Pulse Plugs

These folks are making some wild claims on their $25 "Pulse" plugs....

**Karaha** · 6-19-07, 18:03

The idea seems sound, but I'd better see real proof, like a video or

something, before I spend 150-200 bucks on some damn spark

plugs.

**Norvan6** · 6-19-07, 18:29

Did some googling on it and found an interesting discussion here: Spark Plugs vs Pulse Plugs ~ Chris Pirillo

Still reading through it.

After reading some more about these, I think that it's probably not worth the money, and if it is, then we will likely see these start to come out in new vehicles. If their claims are true, why wouldn't manufacturers take advantage of the increase in fuel efficiency, torque, and power that these things claim to give?

DimaK · 6-20-07, 12:17

Cost$$$$$$$

**gehofff** · 6-27-07, 21:23

I saw an ad in these for popular science...I've been debating whether i should get them or not...100 dollars would pay for a new tower lol.

**Panther37** · 7-1-07, 7:37

So after looking through all of the links, the EPA tested them to get 2.7% better gas mileage. Still might be worth it.

**skiingman** · 7-1-07, 21:14

Wow, you are all a bunch of gullible saps. If a different plug meant even .5 percent better fuel mileage, it would already be included on every new vehicle sold. Period. The EPA drive cycle claims are pure bull[shizzle]. The test data is curiously absent from the internet. It didn't happen.

Even if a "better" ignition system was necessary, it would not be a matter of installing different plugs and instantly achieving 10 percent horsepower gains. Minimum best timing is minimum best timing, and short of completely closed loop ignition control, changing "the propagation of the flame front" requires development and testing of new ignition timing.

Even without any technical understanding of the subject, it should be pretty obvious that this is a scam. Just look at their website. It has "scam" written all over it.

02kyle · 7-1-07, 21:41

it seems like they just took hotwires and made a spark plug just like it. and I can say the hot wires made a difference in my idle. that is for damn sure I went up like 1-300 rpm so they could work. if I ever have money just to blow I will give them a shot and see what I can get.

**jlpicard6** · 7-2-07, 8:24

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Originally Posted by skiingman

Wow, you are all a bunch of gullible saps. If a different plug meant even .5 percent better fuel mileage, it would already be included on every new vehicle sold. Period. The EPA drive cycle claims are pure bull[shizzle]. The test data is curiously absent from the internet. It didn't happen.

Even if a "better" ignition system was necessary, it would not be a matter of installing different plugs and instantly achieving 10 percent horsepower gains. Minimum best timing is minimum best timing, and short of completely closed loop ignition control, changing "the propagation of the flame front" requires development and testing of new ignition timing.

Even without any technical understanding of the subject, it should be pretty obvious that this is a scam. Just look at their website. It has "scam" written all over it.

A good example of a closed minded person friends. Has anyone bought these yet Obi-wan? I am sure this company is trying to sell these as a scam, I am sure they go to all the trouble to manufacture these and sell them for $25 each to make themselves rich. Try and explore, and learn, and put aside your cynical attitude, and maybe, maybe you will discover something that it is truly BS or, that one chance in a million, they may be on to something new. All these are doing is using a capacitor in series with the spark plug to increase the spark voltage. First try and get some 'technical understanding of the subject' before you jump to conclusions based on their website.

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**skiingman** · 7-2-07, 17:45

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Originally Posted by jlpicard6

First try and get some 'technical understanding of the subject' before you jump to conclusions based on their website.

Oh, and what do you know about the subject?

Just curious.

**jlpicard6** · 7-2-07, 19:39

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Originally Posted by skiingman

Oh, and what do you know about the subject?

Just curious.

Great question, and the answer is: not much. That is why I will not jump to the conclusion that a product is no good, and call people 'gullible saps' for exploring new technologies in hopes that, they just might be worth a [shizzle].

**jlpicard6** · 7-2-07, 19:43

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Originally Posted by 02kyle

it seems like they just took hotwires and made a spark plug just like it. and I can say the hot wires made a difference in my idle. that is for damn sure I went up like 1-300 rpm so they could work. if I ever have money just to blow I will give them a shot and see what I can get.

You seem to be right on the money Kyle. I found Hotwires' website and they also contain a capacitor to give a hotter spark. Are you still running your Hotwires? What kind of results are you getting, gas mileage, torque...??? I wonder what the size and rating of the capacitor is in hotwires/pulstar plugs?

**skiingman** · 7-2-07, 20:08

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Originally Posted by jlpicard6

Great question, and the answer is: not much. That is why I will not jump to the conclusion that a product is no good, and call people 'gullible saps' for exploring new technologies in hopes that, they just might be worth a [shizzle].

Go read and learn something. I suggest the Magnecor website for starters; quite accurate and easy for the uninitiated to comprehend.

You see, I actually have a fairly thorough understanding of the science involved in ignition systems for the SI gasoline engine. With an understanding of the science, I can make the statements I make.

**jlpicard6** · 7-2-07, 21:50

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Originally Posted by skiingman

Go read and learn something. I suggest the Magnecor website for starters; quite accurate and easy for the uninitiated to comprehend.

You see, I actually have a fairly thorough understanding of the science involved in ignition systems for the SI gasoline engine. With an understanding of the science, I can make the statements I make.

Great, a genius.

defiler · 7-2-07, 22:34

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A good example of a closed minded person friends. Has anyone bought these yet Obi-wan? I am sure this company is trying to sell these as a scam, I am sure they go to all the trouble to manufacture these and sell them for $25 each to make themselves rich

Companies sell electric superchargers, "Ignition electric wave smoothing" devices, power chips, turbonators (Like the Tornado you can buy @ AutoZone), etc etc...

Those are also all scams. Same concept as here...

If you want a better spark, what do you think MSD's "Capacitive discharge ignitions" are for?

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02kyle Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: columbus,ohio, OSU!!, OH, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (1)	it seems like they just took hotwires and made a spark plug just like it. and I can say the hot wires made a difference in my idle. that is for damn sure I went up like 1-300 rpm so they could work. if I ever have money just to blow I will give them a shot and see what I can get.