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Old 1-23-08, 23:36   #1 (permalink)
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Talon Steering Problem

My sister drives a 97 Eagle Talon Esi, the other day as she was driving the car turned a bit to the right then pulled suddenly? Anyone have any idea what the problem could be? This clearly can't be even the slightest bit of safe .

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My sister drives a 97 Eagle Talon Esi, the other day as she was driving the car turned a bit to the right then pulled suddenly? Anyone have any idea what the problem could be? This clearly can't be even the slightest bit of safe .
You need to gather more information, and do some simple inspection.

1- Navigate through this website. Use the SEARCH bottom located to your upper right (to see it and use it, log in as yourself and click on 'remember me'. Navigating this website as a guest/lurker you'll enjoy only half the fun).
2- Check the tires pressure (all of them), and bring them to specifications. Check the steering fluid level. How is the power steering first thing in the morning (cold mornings)?
3- Take a look at your suspension components to see if there's anything broken, misaligned, loose, leaking, and so on. Once you've determined that your car is safe to drive, do a road test.
4 -Did the pull happen only once, or does it consistently, to the same side? Is it a pull or a drift? Test your car on a level road, taking appropriate precautions. Does the steering wheel shake at any particular speed? Is there any noise?
5 - Read more based on your inspection, and share your impressions.

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my friend has a 95 talon esi which was doing the same thing, plus randomly the powersteering would quit at times and the steering wheel would wobble down the road, i tightened the powersteerring belt and all was well and has been since, hope i could help!

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You need to gather more information, and do some simple inspection.

1- Navigate through this website. Use the SEARCH bottom located to your upper right (to see it and use it, log in as yourself and click on 'remember me'. Navigating this website as a guest/lurker you'll enjoy only half the fun).
2- Check the tires pressure (all of them), and bring them to specifications. Check the steering fluid level. How is the power steering first thing in the morning (cold mornings)?
3- Take a look at your suspension components to see if there's anything broken, misaligned, loose, leaking, and so on. Once you've determined that your car is safe to drive, do a road test.
4 -Did the pull happen only once, or does it consistently, to the same side? Is it a pull or a drift? Test your car on a level road, taking appropriate precautions. Does the steering wheel shake at any particular speed? Is there any noise?
5 - Read more based on your inspection, and share your impressions.
It's my sisters car so i cant do any of these things(she lives in toronto).. I can tell her to do it but she wouldnt know how. and #1 was completly unessecary and rude thank you.

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my friend has a 95 talon esi which was doing the same thing, plus randomly the powersteering would quit at times and the steering wheel would wobble down the road, i tightened the powersteerring belt and all was well and has been since, hope i could help!
Thanks alot ill tell her that could be the problem.

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1- Navigate through this website. Use the SEARCH bottom located to your upper right (to see it and use it, log in as yourself and click on 'remember me'. Navigating this website as a guest/lurker you'll enjoy only half the fun).
Your a great example of what a n00b really is for comments like this. Just asking someone to search is fine but no need for this, so unless its going to help this thread do the following:




drunkman I would suggest calling the local Mitsubishi dealer who will know what the problem is more then likely. Its odd that it would happen on only the esi and not the tsi's. Also hope on a eclipse forum such as Mitsubshi Eclipse Forum - 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse ad ask. I am a member over there and they know everything talon/mitsubishi.

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drunkman2500 and MX6_VTECH, you two guys are way too sensitive.

Steering and suspension are complex systems, and it's naive to think that a simple quickie question/answer in a forum will solve the problem, especially if you don't provide enough information, and your diagnosis is so crude. The main concern (car) is taken lightly, and a good answer (that I provided) is taken too sensitively.

Neither of you have probably noticed that there is, there has been, and there will be a constant fight and friction against the new members, derogatorily called n00bs. The number one complaint to the new members is that they/we do NOT use the SEARCH bottom. I repeatedly see that everyday in this forum. That's why I included instruction #1. It's not because of you. If you browse enough in this website you'll find a video saying exactly the same.

Complaint #2 usually is that n00bs don't give enough information. You did just exactly that. You didn't inform us that the car was located somewhere else and you didn't have access to it. By the initial information you've given us, one is bound to assume you have access to the car, so 'looks like I wasted my time trying to suggest ways to address failure in the suspension/steering components the best way any good technician could.

Having said that, and knowing that you're trying to diagnose long-distance your sister's car, is to consult the TSB -technical service bulletins- for the specific make and model. It's likely that by googling TSBs you might and access such information. But as soon as you find the information, you'll notice that your diagnosis is very poor.

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everyone was a "noob" at one point if you aren't here to help why bother posting an answer

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Steering and suspension are complex systems
I didnt bother reading the rest of your post, but thats downright funny. Steering and suspension are two of the easiest systems to work on a car for a backyarder like yourself. That is, unless you happen to own your own scanner or scope for OBDII engine diagnostics

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To the point

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drunkman I would suggest calling the local Mitsubishi dealer who will know what the problem is more then likely. Its odd that it would happen on only the esi and not the tsi's. Also hope on a eclipse forum such as Mitsubshi Eclipse Forum - 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse ad ask. I am a member over there and they know everything talon/mitsubishi.

These statements are both funny and downright silly. First I'll address Mr. Veteran MX6_VTECH's ones:
  1. "Calling the local Mitsubishi dealer who will know what the problem is more then likely". So silly. I'll make it simpler: You haven't asked the first question, and are already recommending the guy to go the dealer. I guess the next silly thing you could've suggested was to call long distance to Japan and get help from the engineers who designed the car.
  2. "Its odd that it would happen on only the esi and not the tsi's". An unconfirmed steering pull on a car you haven't seen or tested, and you're already thinking the problem is model specific.
  3. "Also hope on a eclipse forum such as Mitsubshi Eclipse Forum - 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse ad ask. I am a member over there and they know everything talon/mitsubishi". A veteran member complaining about n00bs, and the next thing you suggest to the original poster is to become a n00b in another forum to get advice you haven't been able to provide, and without a single question.
  4. Mr. Veteran MX6_VTECH. What's more interesting: No veteran advice came from you whatsoever.
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I didnt bother reading the rest of your post, but thats downright funny. Steering and suspension are two of the easiest systems to work on a car for a backyarder like yourself. That is, unless you happen to own your own scanner or scope for OBDII engine diagnostics

-Tyler
Well Tyler886, if repair of the steering/suspension systems comes as second nature to you, congrats. Maybe the guys ^^^ might need your help. They are looking for help somewhere else (dealer).

As for the scan tool, is actually the opposite. Check this thread http://www.mx6.com/forums/1g-mx6-gen...scan-tool.html (scan tool).

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everyone was a "noob" at one point if you aren't here to help why bother posting an answer

Dear Sir,

You are wrong.
You are wrong, because you are still a n00b.

Proof by example:
You misspelled "n00b" by spelling it with a "o" instead of a "0".
You are obviously a n00b still.
QED.


You see, some of us were born ready.
For Example, Chuck Norris and Mr. T. Neither was born a n00b.
You are wrong.
QED.









Note, this is a joke. Taking this seriously, would be like asking copex (turbo mod) for advice about your turbo. Arguing with me, would be like going to a Presidential Debate dressed as Osama Bin Laden.

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when i first installed my full coilovers the ride heights was half inch off left to right, and camber haven't been adjusted, the car exhibited the discribed symptom while i was driving to the alignment shop.

i'm not sure what that would mean on a stock setup tho. maybe it's alignment related.

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hehehe....

not sure if i am bumping this but this is freakin hilarious thread....n00bz....

n00bz fighting with other n00bz- hilarious
n00bz fighting with veterans- lack of respect
n00bz who think their [shizzle] dont stink- priceless

NOW pertaining to the actual question, i must agree with ghostling on this one, it sounds way too close to an alignment issue or even the balancing of the tires...more of the alignment, this just happened to me, i needed the tires balanced and a front end alignment.

that is all kthnxbai,

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but of course metros! it was mentioned in another thread so i read it and shook my head reading it....

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