Just Wondering if any of you boosted guys have tried this as an octane booster. I've seen people use it to reduce knock when running high amounts of Boost.
I've run touline/ xylene for years. works well for what it is. don't run it straight - always dilute it MINIMUM 4:1 gas.
typically i'll run a 6:1 (roughly) mix during the summer, with higher boost, when at the track.
for the most part though it IS a bandaid. You should always tune a car to run on pump gas at least on a lower boost level (that's easily changed to, via an mbc, ebc, or your ecu)
If the only way you can run your rig is via the use of touline or xylene... you're doing something wrong. (at least with the power levels we're pushing lol)
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What about if you were to run 89 octane and add enough to make 94 octane on a modified N/A setup. Or mix up 100 octane level for the track or something of that nature. I've only seen guys using it to run 20 psi. It eliminated all of the kr on the portable tuner. I would assume running 7-8 psi which is stock for most cars, you really wouldn't need to use it. But it could help out during the summer months.
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its not cheap. its more expensive per gallon than 93. so what you are suggesting would be pretty silly... even using only a couple of gallons - pricewise, you'd wind up spending more than just getting 93. 89 to 93 is what... 50 cents max difference?
94 mx6 - you name it - I did it, came up with it, tried it and rejected it or just plain still have it. **Now in the caring hands of Chef** 93 mx3 - klze, i/h/e, rims and paint.. **FS - on a lift, has an engine, just need to put them together. I have no time. come buy it cheap. 98 jeep GC - 5.9L with bolt ons, lifted, locked. 32x10.5 Goodyear MTR winter/ 30x9.5 bfg ta/ko summer. Custom steel bumpers + armor. "the beast" 98 jeep GC - 5.9L with every bolt on + tune. My street jeep. small tires, but runs 13's
94 is 94 zach. the process to make 98 is prohibitvely expensive to just throw in as a freebie.
The myth stems from the fact that RON ratings are pre-additives.
you can have a 94 minimum RON rating, but after the 10% ethanol contrary to popular belief, you don't RAISE the RON rating.. you lower it.
replacing a 10% volume of "supreme octane" gasoline with ethanol for winter months will actually *lower* your RON a few points (assuming a perfectly homogeneous mix) because ethanol, though having a higher RON... has a lower BTU per volume. They aren't adding... they are replacing.
now before people start yelling... there are 10 points per single octane btu. so 10% ethanol might burn a 93.4 or 93.6 RON instead.
no biggie - but that's where the misconception comes from... 94 is 94 no matter what. winter premixes lower that, so while its true that you get a higher RON in spring/summer than you do in winter... you don't get higher than the 94.
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94 mx6 - you name it - I did it, came up with it, tried it and rejected it or just plain still have it. **Now in the caring hands of Chef** 93 mx3 - klze, i/h/e, rims and paint.. **FS - on a lift, has an engine, just need to put them together. I have no time. come buy it cheap. 98 jeep GC - 5.9L with bolt ons, lifted, locked. 32x10.5 Goodyear MTR winter/ 30x9.5 bfg ta/ko summer. Custom steel bumpers + armor. "the beast" 98 jeep GC - 5.9L with every bolt on + tune. My street jeep. small tires, but runs 13's
higher octane will hurt power and performance if the engine isn't made to handle it. higher octane means it resists knock better.. right? why do you think that is? its harder to ignite. If you're running a medium standard compression, with no timing mods advance to make use of it... you won't see a single gain, and will have to run pig rich just to ignite the mixture.
on an n/a car - you can see GREAT benefits from high octanes... just build it to 11:1 compression and advance the timing a bunch.. and you've got yourselves a monster...
94 mx6 - you name it - I did it, came up with it, tried it and rejected it or just plain still have it. **Now in the caring hands of Chef** 93 mx3 - klze, i/h/e, rims and paint.. **FS - on a lift, has an engine, just need to put them together. I have no time. come buy it cheap. 98 jeep GC - 5.9L with bolt ons, lifted, locked. 32x10.5 Goodyear MTR winter/ 30x9.5 bfg ta/ko summer. Custom steel bumpers + armor. "the beast" 98 jeep GC - 5.9L with every bolt on + tune. My street jeep. small tires, but runs 13's
higher octane will hurt power and performance if the engine isn't made to handle it. higher octane means it resists knock better.. right? why do you think that is? its harder to ignite. If you're running a medium standard compression, with no timing mods advance to make use of it... you won't see a single gain, and will have to run pig rich just to ignite the mixture.
on an n/a car - you can see GREAT benefits from high octanes... just build it to 11:1 compression and advance the timing a bunch.. and you've got yourselves a monster...
Until you realize that you didn't touch the valves and they melt lor something crazy like that.
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who the hell would bother building a motor and not touch the heads?
94 mx6 - you name it - I did it, came up with it, tried it and rejected it or just plain still have it. **Now in the caring hands of Chef** 93 mx3 - klze, i/h/e, rims and paint.. **FS - on a lift, has an engine, just need to put them together. I have no time. come buy it cheap. 98 jeep GC - 5.9L with bolt ons, lifted, locked. 32x10.5 Goodyear MTR winter/ 30x9.5 bfg ta/ko summer. Custom steel bumpers + armor. "the beast" 98 jeep GC - 5.9L with every bolt on + tune. My street jeep. small tires, but runs 13's
1994 MX-6 LS w/ KLZE, chipped ECU, headers, test pipe, Volt muffler, CAI, Outlaw Spacers, Centerforce Stage II clutch, 17" Flik FTD wheels, and black leather interior. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2616648
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