Gas rant

**DrBrown** · 5-15-08, 15:56

Ive gotten a few emails from people saying not to buy from Exxon Mobil oil/gas station suppliers. I'm sure you've all seen it too. Does anyone know what gas companies or stations buy their fuel from Exxon? Obviously they have their own Exxon Mobil stations but I wonder if Marathon, Sheetz or the other companies buy from the middle east?? BP's source is British origin so more than likely its not being pumped out of the middle east. I already made a vow never to use Mobil1 oil (regardless if its related to Exxon) because in turbo engines that synthetic garbage bakes completely in less than 100 miles.

As for the gas prices, its $4.00/gal here in Akron for 87 and that is absurd. In 1999 I was paying 0.88/gal for 87. And in Georgia I paid $.68/gal on trip to Florida!! This is total BS how the oil companies are saying their record growth profit margins are "in line with supply and demand". In Iran and Iraq petrol costs less than $0.40/gal. Granted they have the oil and natural gas resources on tap but it doesn't cost that much to export it to the US. I dont know what to do other than scream as I fill up and it costs $60. CRAZINESS! Seems like just a few months ago it was only $35 to fill up and its rediculous how much it's went up since last year. Anyone else ready to buy a moped?

**D'sMx-6** · 5-15-08, 17:58

I feel you man, this [shizzle] is rediculous. I just hope that someone gets this [shizzle] under control. I can't afford gas anymore. Seriously

**Turk** · 5-15-08, 18:12

If you buy fuel, it comes from the middle east. End of story

.

PS, we pay almost double you pay so harden up princess.

BigTerry · 5-15-08, 18:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrBrown

Ive gotten a few emails from people saying not to buy from Exxon Mobil oil/gas station suppliers. I'm sure you've all seen it too. Does anyone know what gas companies or stations buy their fuel from Exxon? Obviously they have their own Exxon Mobil stations but I wonder if Marathon, Sheetz or the other companies buy from the middle east?? BP's source is British origin so more than likely its not being pumped out of the middle east. I already made a vow never to use Mobil1 oil (regardless if its related to Exxon) because in turbo engines that synthetic garbage bakes completely in less than 100 miles.

As for the gas prices, its $4.00/gal here in Akron for 87 and that is absurd. In 1999 I was paying 0.88/gal for 87. And in Georgia I paid $.68/gal on trip to Florida!! This is total BS how the oil companies are saying their record growth profit margins are "in line with supply and demand". In Iran and Iraq petrol costs less than $0.40/gal. Granted they have the oil and natural gas resources on tap but it doesn't cost that much to export it to the US. I dont know what to do other than scream as I fill up and it costs $60. CRAZINESS! Seems like just a few months ago it was only $35 to fill up and its rediculous how much it's went up since last year. Anyone else ready to buy a moped?

I don't know about your tax on the gas but over here 50% of what you pay goes to the government.

**nate_v8** · 5-15-08, 18:45

Turk, unfortunately soon enough for most of us the price of gas will outweigh what we are making in our salaries. The major spike in prices is even worse because we haven't had time to adjust our budgets for these prices. Also our public transportation sucks, so we don't have much of a choice but to buy the gas.

**Stealth** · 5-15-08, 19:00

I read a recent article on how they can make ethanol from grass just the same way they can make it from corn. Problem is the chemical process is much larger and by the time the process is complete its more than $5 a gallon. There is a company working to chemically engineer a type of grass that is easier to make ethanol from. When that day arrives gas prices will be 50 cents again. (if that day arrives)

**artemis** · 5-15-08, 19:02

yeah we have it worse than you Americans. despite me living in oil-rich alberta, where oil pretty well grows on trees, I am still payin close to a 1.30 a liter. thats like 4.70 per gallon! [fizzle]!

soon, driving is going to just be a pleasure activity.

The scary part is that our distribution systems of the world rely heavily on oil and gas, and the huge spike in the price, is going to push up the cost of ALL goods that have to be transported! [fizzle]!

**Norvan6** · 5-15-08, 20:00

Paid over $60 to fill up for the first time last night. $1.31.9/L, and it's only going to go up. I use transit as much as possible, but still need to drive a fair bit. I'm interested in plug-in hybrids, since they can greatly reduce your dependence on gasoline.

**KING6** · 5-15-08, 21:28

limit your driving and dont fill up a full tank.

I only put in $15-20 at a time, sure I have to stop and fill up more, but gas prices fluctuate so much, one day it will be 3.50, the next 4.00 and a few hrs later 3.75, the weekend comes and its back to 4.00, I drive by the gas station a few times everyday for work, and ive literally seen them change the price 4 times in one day.

**DrBrown** · 5-15-08, 21:30

Turk, I really do understand where you are coming from but in most other countries the price has slowly increased or always been much higher. I agree Americans are pampered babies because we pay more for water, coffee and just about every liquid substance compared to fuel. Diesel prices here are almost $5 USD now and one year ago it was around $2.50 so in a years time it has doubled. Granted many people around the world pay even $15+/gal but when companies are hit with twice as much fuel charge overnight like this its hard to plan for it or budget around it. Plain and simple, the oil corporations of the world are taking advantage of ALL OF US. There really isnt a way to stop it, they are too rich and have too much control on the system. Someone needs to design an electric car already, its not that difficult!! Screw hybrids, thats unefficient and a waste. We need either water or air powered cars heh.

Ethenol is a waste of time. The government is paying farms to hand over their corn supply for E85 and its more expensive than 87 octane, its rare in the midwest where its needed most, and it burns TERRIBLE in most engines ultimately causing fuel pump and injector failure. Im surprised they havent tried to make engines run on gold and silver lol.

BigTerry · 5-15-08, 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by artemis

yeah we have it worse than you Americans. despite me living in oil-rich alberta, where oil pretty well grows on trees, I am still payin close to a 1.30 a liter. thats like 4.70 per gallon! [fizzle]!

soon, driving is going to just be a pleasure activity.

The scary part is that our distribution systems of the world rely heavily on oil and gas, and the huge spike in the price, is going to push up the cost of ALL goods that have to be transported! [fizzle]!

There's 3.785411 liters per gallon (US) and 4.54609 liters per gallon (UK), so you're paying 4.92$/gallon buddy.

**astrochimp** · 5-15-08, 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigTerry

There's 3.785411 liters per gallon (US) and 4.54609 liters per gallon (UK), so you're paying 4.92$/gallon buddy.

what Liter and Gallon are we talkin aBOOT?

1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liter
1 Imperial gallon = 4.54609188 liter

**Turk** · 5-15-08, 21:49

Not that I was attacking you Dr Brown, everyone pays out the ass. But to put it in perspective.

We pay more for everyday stuff, when my mate from LA comes to Sydney he is shocked at how expensive everything is. Not as bad as the UK, but still much more expensive then the states. A small meal at mcdonals (and our meals are smaller then yours in size

) costs $6. That comes down to 2 things
1. Economies of scale, bigger population means larger profit.
2. Your fuel is cheaper.
We do have a much higher income though, but cost of living is up so it kinda cancels out.

My parents have a business and all suppliers are sending letters now saying of price rises etc because of rising fuel costs. Even in China they are feeling the pinch hard and then it costs them more to make us [shizzle].

In 2004 petrol prices were $1.00 per litre. in about a one month period it jumped to 1.30 and it stayed 1.30 until about 2006 when it hit and stayed where it is now at $1.50 a litre. It would be higher but thanks to the [shizzle]ty US economy right now and there the US dollar value so low it kinda hedges against the cost of our fuel. Everywhere around the world it jumped very quickly. In Turkey I know fuel is about $2.4 a litre or so. Europe has it much worse.

**Scooby** · 5-15-08, 21:56

I am in the process of having my truck converted to a dual fuel system that will run gasoline and compressed natural gas (CNG).
You get about the same mileage from CNG, there are lots of fill stations in Utah that support it and it costs about $0.60/gallon.
The main problem with it is that the tanks take up a lot of space. But a tank that will fit inside a tool box case for a truck bed will get me about 150 miles between fills and I can always switch to gas at the push of a button.
If I want to fill the entire truck bed with tanks I can get about 400 miles between fill ups.

Pirate_d00d · 5-15-08, 22:06

Yes, gas prices suck. Thankfully most of my heavy driving is on the highway. Hooray for 4 bangers.

5-15-08, 15:56	#1 (permalink)
DrBrown Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Age: 27 iTrader: (1)	Gas rant Ive gotten a few emails from people saying not to buy from Exxon Mobil oil/gas station suppliers. I'm sure you've all seen it too. Does anyone know what gas companies or stations buy their fuel from Exxon? Obviously they have their own Exxon Mobil stations but I wonder if Marathon, Sheetz or the other companies buy from the middle east?? BP's source is British origin so more than likely its not being pumped out of the middle east. I already made a vow never to use Mobil1 oil (regardless if its related to Exxon) because in turbo engines that synthetic garbage bakes completely in less than 100 miles. As for the gas prices, its $4.00/gal here in Akron for 87 and that is absurd. In 1999 I was paying 0.88/gal for 87. And in Georgia I paid $.68/gal on trip to Florida!! This is total BS how the oil companies are saying their record growth profit margins are "in line with supply and demand". In Iran and Iraq petrol costs less than $0.40/gal. Granted they have the oil and natural gas resources on tap but it doesn't cost that much to export it to the US. I dont know what to do other than scream as I fill up and it costs $60. CRAZINESS! Seems like just a few months ago it was only $35 to fill up and its rediculous how much it's went up since last year. Anyone else ready to buy a moped?
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D'sMx-6 Overhaulin' the 6 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: milwaukee, WI, USA Age: 21 iTrader: (1)	I feel you man, this [shizzle] is rediculous. I just hope that someone gets this [shizzle] under control. I can't afford gas anymore. Seriously
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nate_v8 Love you long time! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Beaver, OH, USA Age: 21 iTrader: (2)	Turk, unfortunately soon enough for most of us the price of gas will outweigh what we are making in our salaries. The major spike in prices is even worse because we haven't had time to adjust our budgets for these prices. Also our public transportation sucks, so we don't have much of a choice but to buy the gas.
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artemis Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Calgary, Canada Age: 18 iTrader: (0)	yeah we have it worse than you Americans. despite me living in oil-rich alberta, where oil pretty well grows on trees, I am still payin close to a 1.30 a liter. thats like 4.70 per gallon! [fizzle]! soon, driving is going to just be a pleasure activity. The scary part is that our distribution systems of the world rely heavily on oil and gas, and the huge spike in the price, is going to push up the cost of ALL goods that have to be transported! [fizzle]!
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Norvan6 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: New Westminster, Canada Age: 27 iTrader: (0)	Paid over $60 to fill up for the first time last night. $1.31.9/L, and it's only going to go up. I use transit as much as possible, but still need to drive a fair bit. I'm interested in plug-in hybrids, since they can greatly reduce your dependence on gasoline.

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KING6 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Central, USA Age: 24 iTrader: (13)	limit your driving and dont fill up a full tank. I only put in $15-20 at a time, sure I have to stop and fill up more, but gas prices fluctuate so much, one day it will be 3.50, the next 4.00 and a few hrs later 3.75, the weekend comes and its back to 4.00, I drive by the gas station a few times everyday for work, and ive literally seen them change the price 4 times in one day.
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5-15-08, 21:30	#10 (permalink)
DrBrown Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Age: 27 iTrader: (1)	Turk, I really do understand where you are coming from but in most other countries the price has slowly increased or always been much higher. I agree Americans are pampered babies because we pay more for water, coffee and just about every liquid substance compared to fuel. Diesel prices here are almost $5 USD now and one year ago it was around $2.50 so in a years time it has doubled. Granted many people around the world pay even $15+/gal but when companies are hit with twice as much fuel charge overnight like this its hard to plan for it or budget around it. Plain and simple, the oil corporations of the world are taking advantage of ALL OF US. There really isnt a way to stop it, they are too rich and have too much control on the system. Someone needs to design an electric car already, its not that difficult!! Screw hybrids, thats unefficient and a waste. We need either water or air powered cars heh. Ethenol is a waste of time. The government is paying farms to hand over their corn supply for E85 and its more expensive than 87 octane, its rare in the midwest where its needed most, and it burns TERRIBLE in most engines ultimately causing fuel pump and injector failure. Im surprised they havent tried to make engines run on gold and silver lol.
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5-15-08, 21:49	#13 (permalink)
Turk Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 iTrader: (1)	Not that I was attacking you Dr Brown, everyone pays out the ass. But to put it in perspective. We pay more for everyday stuff, when my mate from LA comes to Sydney he is shocked at how expensive everything is. Not as bad as the UK, but still much more expensive then the states. A small meal at mcdonals (and our meals are smaller then yours in size ) costs $6. That comes down to 2 things 1. Economies of scale, bigger population means larger profit. 2. Your fuel is cheaper. We do have a much higher income though, but cost of living is up so it kinda cancels out. My parents have a business and all suppliers are sending letters now saying of price rises etc because of rising fuel costs. Even in China they are feeling the pinch hard and then it costs them more to make us [shizzle]. In 2004 petrol prices were $1.00 per litre. in about a one month period it jumped to 1.30 and it stayed 1.30 until about 2006 when it hit and stayed where it is now at $1.50 a litre. It would be higher but thanks to the [shizzle]ty US economy right now and there the US dollar value so low it kinda hedges against the cost of our fuel. Everywhere around the world it jumped very quickly. In Turkey I know fuel is about $2.4 a litre or so. Europe has it much worse.
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