ms6 vs. 350z destroyed

[fredio54]

[ls six]

Originally Posted by Mazda4ever

pretty sad they slap that huge turbo on and a 12.8 is the result..sorry I dont find anything special about the speed6.. it just has a nice exhaust tone imo...

Thats a pretty narrow minded attitude. Would an Evo run 12.8 if you just "slaped a huge turbo on"? No it would require tuning to work and for the more conventional Evo thats simpler than it is on the MS6.

Just because the 6 lacks the bolt on aftermarket support of other cars dosnt mean it lacks potential.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by Mazda4ever

pretty sad they slap that huge turbo on and a 12.8 is the result..sorry I dont find anything special about the speed6.. it just has a nice exhaust tone imo...

I smell a dsm nut hugger.

[fredio54]

Quarter mile [shizzle] doesn't interest me at all pretty much. It's a tool to measure the car that you have modified to see how fast it goes after you are happy with it.

I would question the potential of a car based on two things :

How much hp the engine can make and still last well
How much abuse the gearbox can take and still last well

I suspect that :

The engine is a modern one that is not as strong in the bottom end etc as older equipment
The box is typically mazda and will die at a moments notice or by having a pucked disk waved at it ;-)

Having said that, how much power etc do you need to enjoy your car? My standard is :

100hp per 1000kg, disk brakes on all four corners, 2 camshafts per bank of cylinders, >= 15" wheels, EFI, RWD MANUAL.

Beyond that is a bonus :-)

EVO's will run 13.0 with zero mods.

[Tem]

Originally Posted by fredio54

Quarter mile [shizzle] doesn't interest me at all pretty much. It's a tool to measure the car that you have modified to see how fast it goes after you are happy with it.

I would question the potential of a car based on two things :

How much hp the engine can make and still last well
How much abuse the gearbox can take and still last well

I suspect that :

The engine is a modern one that is not as strong in the bottom end etc as older equipment
The box is typically mazda and will die at a moments notice or by having a pucked disk waved at it ;-)

Having said that, how much power etc do you need to enjoy your car? My standard is :

100hp per 1000kg, disk brakes on all four corners, 2 camshafts per bank of cylinders, >= 15" wheels, EFI.

Beyond that is a bonus :-)

EVO's will run 13.0 with zero mods.

what the hell makes an evo so fast? 4 cyl... they are kinda boxy ... 4 doors ... I dont get it ...

[ls six]

Originally Posted by fredio54

Quarter mile [shizzle]

EVO's will run 13.0 with zero mods.

Zero to 60 mph: 5.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.4 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 14.2 sec @ 98 mph
Top speed (redline limited): 155 mph


Dont think so. And the new ones slightly slower.

The best times I have seen for the last evo were mid or low 13's but not a flat 13.

[Tem]

Originally Posted by ls six

Zero to 60 mph: 5.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.4 sec
Standing 1/4-mile: 14.2 sec @ 98 mph
Top speed (redline limited): 155 mph


Dont think so. And the new ones slightly slower.

The best times I have seen for the last evo were mid or low 13's but not a flat 13.

do those evos come boosted from factory ? what the hell makes them so fast...

[Mazda Carnage]

Originally Posted by Tem

do those evos come boosted from factory ? what the hell makes them so fast...

Motor Trend EVO & STi 1/4 mile times - ClubWRX Forum - Subaru Impreza WRX and STi Community and Forums
Motor Trend EVO & STi 1/4 mile times
I was reading a post in NASICO forum about the new Motor Trend Mag.

Supposely it has the EVO running
4.59 sec 0-60mph
13.08 @ 105 mph 1/4 mile

The STi ran
4.87 sec 0-60mph
13.23 @ 104 mph 1/4 mile

"Maserati, Mazda, McLaren, Mercedes, Mercury, M.G., Mini Cooper, Mitsubishi" 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for Factory Stock Vehicles
2003 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII 5.1 13.5
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII 4.8 13.4
2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR 4.5 13.3 (MT Dec '05)

[fredio54]

Must spread carnage!

Yeah, I think the one my mate had was an EVO6? Later shape thing.

Yes, boosted, and boosted hard for a factory car. Plus, 1/4 mile = traction ET = power. 1/4 is more easily done well with 4wd.

Fred.

[Tem]

Originally Posted by fredio54

Must spread carnage!

Yeah, I think the one my mate had was an EVO6? Later shape thing.

Yes, boosted, and boosted hard for a factory car. Plus, 1/4 mile = traction ET = power. 1/4 is more easily done well with 4wd.

Fred.

I wanna make my 6 AWD like ausies.... =( that would be the final project! lol but can the AWD 6's drivetrain handle high torque like the evo's?

[fredio54]

No.





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[Tem]

Originally Posted by fredio54

No.
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Can the awd version handle more torque than the 2wd?

[ls six]

Originally Posted by Tem

Can the awd version handle more torque than the 2wd?

2WD 6 ? Proabably. 2WD mx6? idk. But I hear its the rear diff that goes first. A new mount is supposed to help.

[Tem]

Originally Posted by ls six

2WD 6 ? Proabably. 2WD mx6? idk. But I hear its the rear diff that goes first. A new mount is supposed to help.

yeah I was reffering to the AWD version of the MX-6

[Turk]

My back wheels turn, like alot of Aussie mx-6's, but not in the way you are thinking mate. Side to side .

100hp per 1000kg, disk brakes on all four corners, 2 camshafts per bank of cylinders, >= 15" wheels, EFI.

My mums car fits that criteria, and it is by no means fun Fred. You should add rwd to that list, I know you hate front drivers Fred, well maybe tolerate your girls Levin.