ms6 vs. 350z destroyed - Page 4

Tem · 4-29-08, 14:03

you're correct I did think it was all wheel drive not steering.. I'm not impressed anymore! LOL

**ls six** · 4-29-08, 19:25

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Originally Posted by fredio54

I need a light small fast rwd car for daily commuting at some point. a newer more boring shell might be in order.

Well we stopped getting small light rwd cars about the time the AE86 was canned.

Just wondering what are your options down there?

**Turk** · 4-29-08, 21:08

RWD converted KLZE powered mazda 92ish 121 bubble. No one will suspect a thing.

If you want a quick runaround, why not just a decent front driver with engine swap. light and rwd as lssix mentioned is hard to find even with all our old jap imports. You wont find an non sus one anyway.

**jphillips626** · 4-29-08, 22:15

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Originally Posted by Mazda4ever

I'll believe it, however I just don't see the potential to go any faster really... 5-6 years ago it was normal for aftermarket to come so slowly for a car, these days with the shops and companies out there I dont see this car hanging with the evo's or the like anytime soon..

yeah, but those evos are out there for that wow factor and serious tuning not comfortable road warrior. So what if you can't get under 12. big deal, if he can afford to tune a ms6 he can afford to buy something to go faster... like a drag car. Maybe i am just blind and fail to see where you are coming from on this one. We live in an age with almost zero limits. Potential....looks like he is proud to keep it somewhat stock too.

Nice kill, rocking the plush ms6 which would be nothing but comfort on a trip across country. Anyone who has dd an evo any serious distance would tire of its novelty quickly. Anyone else think the 350z looks like a vw bug? Eh, to each their own.

**Turk** · 4-29-08, 22:30

A evo lancer is very daily drivable. Quite comfortable for a sports car really, very comfortable.

**jphillips626** · 4-29-08, 23:42

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Originally Posted by Turk

A evo lancer is very daily drivable. Quite comfortable for
a sports car really, very comfortable.

Very true Turk but i was thinking more along the lines of the evo 8. I rode in one for 10 hours and i would NOT want to do it again. Just noisy, cramped, and uncomfortable (y) fast. But the lancer is indeed a great platform for the ultimate road machine.

**fredio54** · 4-30-08, 1:44

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Originally Posted by Turk

RWD converted KLZE powered mazda 92ish 121 bubble. No one will suspect a thing.

Exactly! The fast fwd ceases to be fast as soon as it rains you know ;-) and doing skids in the rain is why I'm alive. My new god told me so. Yeah, must be rwd to not piss me off and to keep me sane. I could just grab a levin or civic and strip it to make it light if I wanted a fast fwd hatch. It just won't do though. If I went with the KP starlet, I'd have a lot of work ahead of me anyway, so going fwd > rwd isn't that much more work IMO (stock starlet running gear is ALL too small/[shizzle]) Also, the starlet has a reputation for being slid... I want the cops to think "that civic couldn't have just done that, could it?? nahhhh" ;-)

**Turk** · 4-30-08, 2:28

What would NZ coppers thing of a rwd conversion, say if it was still NA. You said pretty much unlimted mods on NA cars right?

**ZE Power MX6** · 4-30-08, 2:39

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Originally Posted by Mazda4ever

pretty sad they slap that huge turbo on and a 12.8 is the result..sorry I dont find anything special about the speed6.. it just has a nice exhaust tone imo...

If 1/4 mile time is how we determine what car to buy, this forum probably wouldn't exist... I don't find anything special about the EVO either, can mod to be fast yes, have I drove one yes, do I like it no, interior look cheap and exterior look butt ugly

**fredio54** · 4-30-08, 3:42

unlimited mods TO THE ENGINE when NA. I would get a cert etc. certs cost 500, but are easy to get if you aren't an idiot. you only need a cert for fairly serious mods (cept turbos which always need one (or are supposed to)). RWDing a fwd is fairly serious in terms of mods. I've seen a corolla station wagon with a 13bt in it at mere mere once. The hardest part is deciding what shell and engine and box and rear suspension to graft in. I'd lean towards nissan 8" rear if it wasn't too wide, box would probably end up either low power mazda or low power nissan variety, and engine either itbs and rpms or rpms and boost if it was a small capacity one. kl + itbs is nice though as it will be reliable as no matter how much i flog it. turbo 4age or similar will mean all the same worries as the ute which i don't really want for a thrashable daily. also, intercoolers are a give away. parts must be cheap, shell, engine, box, suspension etc. all cheap. just slap it together and get it legal and use it.

ugly and fast or pretty and slow : ugly and fast any day. they arent just fast in a line you know, they are fast round corners too...

**Turk** · 4-30-08, 8:26

Rwd is a big conversion and will be hard to simply slap on some parts from the wreckers. Not that your welding isnt up to it I guess, to make it rwd and expect it to still steer decently, is a big ask on a budget

.

PS your idea of budget obviously is not the same of mine./

**fredio54** · 4-30-08, 9:57

It's just a matter of time mostly. ESP if I keep it NA.. that keeps the cost down a lot. I'll use all pick n pull parts etc. KL-ZE = 300nz maybe less. Don't you worry about me ;-)

**maffatato15** · 4-30-08, 11:55

they should just come out with a 3oo hp "Mazdaspeed evolution STI" already. So people can stop complaining and there can be another 4wd turbo car to compete. Im sure mazda can make a pretty sweet car if they really wanted to. Idk whats holding them back

Dont get me wrong though i would still love a speed 6 or speed 3. In fact there is a speed 6 (silver) here with gun metal gray rims and i drive by it on my way to work everyday. Looks really nice...

**ZE Power MX6** · 4-30-08, 13:10

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Originally Posted by fredio54

ugly and fast or pretty and slow : ugly and fast any day. they arent just fast in a line you know, they are fast round corners too...

I wouldn't say pretty and slow, maybe pretty and decent : pretty and decent any day for me, but that's just me. Pretty will always look pretty, fast you can only go so fast as a DD, unless you take it to the track you can go all out. For street driving I find myself going fast on the turbo 6 maybe 5% of the time overall, there's just no room and I don't like wasting gas for pointless speeding. So in that case I'll be driving an always ugly and 5% of the time will go fast car, not my cup of tea, but... that's just me

**fredio54** · 4-30-08, 13:57

Money is!

LOL, I manage fast 99% of the time :-) You're just a [mangina]!

4-29-08, 14:03	#46 (permalink)
Tem Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Miami, FL, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (0)	you're correct I did think it was all wheel drive not steering.. I'm not impressed anymore! LOL
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4-29-08, 21:08	#48 (permalink)
Turk Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 iTrader: (5)	RWD converted KLZE powered mazda 92ish 121 bubble. No one will suspect a thing. If you want a quick runaround, why not just a decent front driver with engine swap. light and rwd as lssix mentioned is hard to find even with all our old jap imports. You wont find an non sus one anyway.
	174kw at 9psi KLDE-T

4-29-08, 22:30	#50 (permalink)
Turk Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 iTrader: (5)	A evo lancer is very daily drivable. Quite comfortable for a sports car really, very comfortable.
	174kw at 9psi KLDE-T

4-30-08, 2:28	#53 (permalink)
Turk Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 iTrader: (5)	What would NZ coppers thing of a rwd conversion, say if it was still NA. You said pretty much unlimted mods on NA cars right?
	174kw at 9psi KLDE-T

4-30-08, 3:42	#55 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	unlimited mods TO THE ENGINE when NA. I would get a cert etc. certs cost 500, but are easy to get if you aren't an idiot. you only need a cert for fairly serious mods (cept turbos which always need one (or are supposed to)). RWDing a fwd is fairly serious in terms of mods. I've seen a corolla station wagon with a 13bt in it at mere mere once. The hardest part is deciding what shell and engine and box and rear suspension to graft in. I'd lean towards nissan 8" rear if it wasn't too wide, box would probably end up either low power mazda or low power nissan variety, and engine either itbs and rpms or rpms and boost if it was a small capacity one. kl + itbs is nice though as it will be reliable as no matter how much i flog it. turbo 4age or similar will mean all the same worries as the ute which i don't really want for a thrashable daily. also, intercoolers are a give away. parts must be cheap, shell, engine, box, suspension etc. all cheap. just slap it together and get it legal and use it. ugly and fast or pretty and slow : ugly and fast any day. they arent just fast in a line you know, they are fast round corners too...
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4-30-08, 8:26	#56 (permalink)
Turk Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 20 iTrader: (5)	Rwd is a big conversion and will be hard to simply slap on some parts from the wreckers. Not that your welding isnt up to it I guess, to make it rwd and expect it to still steer decently, is a big ask on a budget . PS your idea of budget obviously is not the same of mine./
	174kw at 9psi KLDE-T

4-30-08, 9:57	#57 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	It's just a matter of time mostly. ESP if I keep it NA.. that keeps the cost down a lot. I'll use all pick n pull parts etc. KL-ZE = 300nz maybe less. Don't you worry about me ;-)
	DIYEFI.org - TRUE DIY engine management Mazda FE3/FE-DOHC Master Index Thread (work in progress) Mazda truck with FE-DOHC/FE3 "BIG like your house" Holset Turbo drinking 2.2 litres of fuel per minute ~= 385hp crank RIP SleepCounter :-( we will miss you! - RIP fredio54 :-( will we miss you?

4-30-08, 11:55	#58 (permalink)
maffatato15 im back from BAN camp Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: endwell, NY, USA Age: 22 iTrader: (4)	they should just come out with a 3oo hp "Mazdaspeed evolution STI" already. So people can stop complaining and there can be another 4wd turbo car to compete. Im sure mazda can make a pretty sweet car if they really wanted to. Idk whats holding them back Dont get me wrong though i would still love a speed 6 or speed 3. In fact there is a speed 6 (silver) here with gun metal gray rims and i drive by it on my way to work everyday. Looks really nice...
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4-30-08, 13:57	#60 (permalink)
fredio54 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (1)	Money is! LOL, I manage fast 99% of the time :-) You're just a [mangina]!
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