++smoked my buddys 97 gt 4.6l++

[mazdacar707]

so my buddy kevin has a 97 or 96 ford mustang gt 4.6l all stock except after market injectors and i own a 90 mx6 gt and it is not stock. so to get to the point i am coming home on my lunch break and i see kevin, so i honk and pull over and i get out and start turning up my boost. kevin rolls up and says" so you want to race?" this was a race that was planed for quite some time. So i agreed and i ask how he wanted to race, from a dig or a rolling start. He wanted a 30mph rollin start, so i raced him at 11psi of boost and as soon as the third honk came along we both floored it and boost came in and i pulled away, 30mph to about 90mph i would have him about 2, 2 and a half cars. two races, two wins

:score:
96-97? 4.6l gt mustang stock,0/ 90 mx6 gt modded,2

[maffatato15]

nice. 11 psi on the stocker too? Not bad.

[josey_gt]

this may sound like a noob question, which it really is since im not educated at all in turbos or sc's. how do you "turn up" your boost?

[D'sMx-6]

with a manual boost controller

[mazdacar707]

maffatato except at 11psi, and joesy with a manual boost controller silly.
Mods: K&N panel filter/2"aluminum intercooler piping/fmic/ 2.5"turbo back exhaust drifter style muffler/boost gauge&mbc 10psi/gripforce stage1 clutch/magnecore8.5mm wires/msd coil/Probinator chip/tbirdhybrid/z housing

[mazdacar707]

oh yeah and my motor only has about 7000 on the rebuild and the mustang was around 90,000 100,000 miles

[Mike 94PGT]

Good kill. Not to piss in your cornflakes but a stock 96-97 Mustang GT only made 215HP at the crank when new. If it really is stock it might be at 185HP at the wheels: They weren't exactly powerhouses. Please tell me it was at least a manual gearbox and not a slushbox... It's not surprising that a lightweight turbo-4 ate it for lunch.

[mazdacar707]

Yes the mustang was a five speed, My buddy kevin that i raced also had aftermarket injectors i think he said that the stock injectors where 19lb and he put 23lb injectors in the 4.6l mustang. oh yeah my 90 f2t is also a five speed.

[moebius]

The Mustang Gt is kinda the fun car to beat on for all 1g mx6 GT.. 'stang owners like to pretend they have a 5.0.. but they don't.

The fun part is, if you chip your gt, and up the boost to around 15 psi, you can just about do the same thing to a Mustang 5.0... depends on the year of course.. but.. still.. that's what makes the 1g MX6 so much fun.

[maffatato15]

wait you have a t bird at 11 psi? You must have smoked this guy then. I raced my friends tbird with a 4.6l v8 roughly 210 hp with intake and exhaust. I have an automatic lxt and i beat him on 8 psi.......





p.s......why would he get aftermarket injectors for no reason? It probably slowed him down if anything.

[Mike 94PGT]

Originally Posted by moebius

The Mustang Gt is kinda the fun car to beat on for all 1g mx6 GT.. 'stang owners like to pretend they have a 5.0.. but they don't.

The 5L wasn't all that. Lots of low-end torque but not alot of power up top. They take mods well but the OE blocks limit power output to about 500 before the risk of catastrophic failure in the form of a split block shows up. The 99-04 2Vs were rated at 260HP; mine made 230HP to the wheels bone stock, more than most 5Ls were rated at the crankshaft. A 96-98 car with a PI (99-04) swap -- heads and cams -- can make more still due to a higher resulting compression ratio. The the modular blocks are much more robust than their 5L counterparts and can take a fair amount more power if the FI or nitrous route is taken.

The fun part is, if you chip your gt, and up the boost to around 15 psi, you can just about do the same thing to a Mustang 5.0... depends on the year of course.. but.. still.. that's what makes the 1g MX6 so much fun.

I speak as one who owns both types of cars, a 1.8T GTI that's respectably quick in my driveway and a 4.6L Mustang GT in my garage. As I drive the GTI around and accelerate onto a highway, tailing a Mustang or whatever, always in the back of my head is the simple fact that while I have a turbo on the GTI and maybe I'm even out-accelerating a few of them, the owners of those cars are allowed to tweak and modify too: For not a lot of money, relatively speaking, I could put a 62mm turbo kit from Hellion on my GT, run low- to moderate-boost and make 430HP at the rear wheels. Up the internals to forged and upgrade to a T-76 turbo and the power goes into the 500-600HP at the wheels range.

I have chosen not to do so, preferring a classic "muscle car" feel to a highway stormer. Just don't get too cocky 'cause one of these days you'll be humiliated by some dude who did go that route with his GT.

When that happens, will we hear that story?

[maffatato15]

i'd tell that story if i got blown away by a 600 hp stang. I would be pretty impressed with all the work done to the car.


there is this kid in my class that has a 97 mustang cobra and he always talks [shizzle] to all of us 4 banger imports. Then we mention something about a turbo and he brings up, well if i did the same thing to my car it would smoke you. Well no [shizzle] sherlock! In my case, a 4 cylinder car with a turbo is just making up for the lack of 4 more cylinders that a v8 has. Squeeze a v8 into a miata and see if that kid still wants to race haha.


p.s. - im not bashing v8's or anything i just hate it when muscle cars talk [shizzle], like that kid does in my class.

[Mike 94PGT]

Originally Posted by maffatato15

i'd tell that story if i got blown away by a 600 hp stang. I would be pretty impressed with all the work done to the car.

Heh, yeah, me too.

p.s. - im not bashing v8's or anything i just hate it when muscle cars talk [shizzle], like that kid does in my class.

I hear ya. Just remember it goes both ways; "they" too get tired of hearing how unbeatable and technically superior the 4-cylinder guys think their cars are.

Everyone's got their niche, their vested interests they're going to cover. People spend bux on a car a mods they're proud of and are naturally going to defend it and its ilk. Sometimes we just need to be reminded that someone else will always be faster...

[maffatato15]

yeah i know what you mean. Theres always gonna be an ongoing battle between imports and muscle cars.

[zlyricist]

Originally Posted by Mike 94PGT

For not a lot of money, relatively speaking, I could put a 62mm turbo kit from Hellion on my GT, run low- to moderate-boost and make 430HP at the rear wheels.

a 62-1 turbo kit thats not a lot of money? show me

Up the internals to forged and upgrade to a T-76 turbo and the power goes into the 500-600HP at the wheels range.

definitely not a cheap route for only making 500hp

Just don't get too cocky 'cause one of these days you'll be humiliated by some dude who did go that route with his GT.

When that happens, will we hear that story?

i see where you're going with this. but what does any of that matter, you can dump thousands into any car, 1.6 liters, 2 liters, 3 liters. technology has allowed us to make almost any car fast, granted you throw enough cash into it