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I think what is said above would work really good as well. |
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Josh's 91 Mx6 GT 3 inch turbo back exhaust, Magnaflow muffler, TurboXS M.B.C, econo tires, crappy paint, and the roughest idle you have ever seen.
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hahaha, i didn't know all this tension existed.
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If you want to feel rich, count the things you have that money can't buy.
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KITTED 92 MX6 GT<-CLICK HERE Quote: Originally Posted by SD6 "A crackpipe is what you hit." |
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Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes?
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The ones that gr8 refers to were complaints I sent to a moderator regarding his behaviour along with his (the mod's) responses. He (gr8ride) seems to have misapprehended them as warnings about my behaviour. Evidently some/all of those pmails were posted in the mods' forum (so much for the sanctity of pmail, hay?) under the guise of being warnings about my behaviour and some/all of the mods, misapprehended them as such, just like M(y)x6gr8RiDe. I do not have access to the mods' forum so I have no way to determine how many of the messages were posted and whether they were modified or edited to change the meaning or context. By the sound of gr8RiDe's admission of "mistaken", it sounds like it doesn't much matter anyway, what was said, or with regard to whom. If the mod sponsoring the banishment considers it "bickering", no one else seems much inclined to examine the facts or the issues, just vote in favour of the motion. If a "mistake" was made, so what? Just, "move on". Quote:
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I suspect you would not subscribe to such advice had it been your plug that was pulled due to the petulence of some and the laziness/"mistakes" of others. Quote:
Quis Custodiet Ipsos Custodes? Quote:
Privacy - You will not violate a person's privacy by publishing against someone's will information that is private and personal.So (as our esteemed mod would say) STFU. Quote:
What you ask is precisely what the rules (The Rules) demand. Complaints - Users may disagree with the decisions or actions of the moderators and/or administrators. However disagreements and criticism may not be posted within the discussion forums.And precisely what I did. Sent pmails to you on June 18, June 19 (2) and June 20 (2 more) and June 21 regarding your behaviour. On June 21, about 2 hours after my last complaint, I was banned. What a co-incidence, hay? Any idea why (now that we know the "repeated private messages from mods" is at best a mistake and at worst fiction)? Maybe because, in addition to having adhered to the orange rule cited above, I also adhered to the one that asked me to: Please contact Sean Mathis (Scooby) directly with issues regarding complaints or disagreement with moderator action. Keep in mind that complaints that are not supported with evidence, such as quotes and links to their source topics, will make it more difficult to respond.Please tell me that does not have a bearing upon this issue. Please. Probetalk forums indeed. Quote:
Meanwhile a mod flouts the rules (plural rules) seemingly with impunity. Did anyone say "double standard" or "noblesse oblige"? Quote:
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2006 Mazdaspeed6 6-spd 274/280 stock.
Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov |
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One this that will assist in this issue is that I have reinstated the Warning system. I spend a few days poking around in the database to get it to work again so everything will be save and documented in the warnings system. Everyone of the warnings can contested with me if you wish but with this new system any contested warning (with me) will be final once a make a desision. I don't hide my email address nor my AIM account so feel free to discuss things with me.
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Those people who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov |
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I haven't been in the 1G forum in "quiet" some time so I can't really address that situation but...
it was a 3 day ban from an internet forum. Are you telling me that this site is SO important to you that you're upset over not having it for 3 days? I'm surprised that there was no killing spree when the site went down for nearly a month during the switch to vb3. I like yall, but seriously, settle down. A 3 day ban isn't even a slap on the wrist, its more like when you're training a kitty cat and you spray them with a water bottle. Woopdie freakin doo... |
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To be nobody-but-yourself --- in a world which is doing its best, night and day, to make you everybody else --- means to fight the hardest battle which any human being can fight; and never stop fighting.
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I can understand if there is frustration/confusion on BOTH sides...but there is no need to keep it flowing any longer. Please just tone it down and settle this appropriately. |
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Why would you post it in the mods area if it was unrelated? Did you try to pass it off as warnings, or did gr8ride just jump to that conclusion without any reason therefore? Were they complete and unedited or did you just take the parts that supported your contention? Quote:
Are you claiming the timing of my complaints to Scooby (2 days - 2 hours before I got banned) was just a coincidence? Yeah, right. Quote:
A warning?!? Cripes, you admitting having overreacted (june 19). you were having a good laugh about my post (june 20) and trying to give me karma for it (june 20). Then you found out I cc:ed Scooby (june 20). Then I got my plug pulled (june 21). Did all that stuff get posted in the mods area? Or just selected parts? Something is wrong with this picture.
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I won't say what I do think 'cuz that will not only sound ad hominem ('goon kinda intimated that this would be more productive if we stuck to actions rather than people). Plus I think my honest opinion, were it offered, would make you unhappy and resentful. Bad things happen to my account when you're unhappy and resentful. Quote:
I had always thought that "a mod doing the impartial thing" and "a mod doing what he wanted to do" would amount to the same thing. Are you claiming that they are mutually exclusive? Maybe I set my expectations too high. Quote:
Try to comply with 'goon's request and avoid personalities. I think 'goon would prefer we dealt with actions and try to leave aside personalities aside for now. Quote:
But I cannot imagine anyone doing a worse job than what you did on June 21. Is that what Goatcrapp calls "an episode"? My question to you is this, why did you post my pmail in the mods forum when it was not even about my actions, but rather about yours? Quote:
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His post transgressed several rules. I reported it to Scooby, as per the rules. Then I got suspended. Two hours later. I know Goatcrapp likes to dismiss my adherence to the rules as "semantics". I'm just trying to understand how all this happened 3 months after I received my *ONLY* warning (since we lost the warning system). I'm still trying to understand why my (private, I thought) complaints about a moderator's actions ended up in the mods forum and somehow became the basis for my suspension. It certainly looks to me like whoever was monitoring the monitors was listening to only one side of the story, yes. Or maybe only half listening. Or maybe being told only half the truth. Or half-truths. One thing that worries me is you still seem to believe that you heard the entire story (or enough thereof) by discussing only with the mod involved. A mod who has just acknowledged that the "impartial thing" is something different from what he "wants to do". Was there any review of his transgressions that were the subject of my complaints? Any penalty? Any suspension? Do you feel, like panther, that the timing of my suspension, 2 hours after the last of those 6 complaint emails, was just a coincidence? Do the rules apply differently to mods than to members? Quote:
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If so, I think that makes the whole idea farcical. What about the rule that implores us to: Please contact Sean Mathis (Scooby) directly with issues regarding complaints or disagreement with moderator action. Keep in mind that complaints that are not supported with evidence, such as quotes and links to their source topics, will make it more difficult to respond.Is this rule now redundant? Quote:
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This whole thing is about character, integrity and truth. Maybe you hadn't cottoned on to that because those three items are in such short supply around here. Or maybe you think stuff like that doesn't matter. Quote:
Banning people for actions that didn't even merit a warning? Posting (parts of?) people's pmail? Having "episodes"? Yeah, I'd have to agree, if I'd seen stuff like what's gone on here over the last couple of weeks when I first arrived here, I'd have probably moved on. I think mods who "would place most of you on ignore" and mods for whom "doing the impartial thing" is more difficult than "doing what I want to do" make their own significant contribution to any "bad image" this site might have gained. Quote:
Those attributes seem to be having a difficult time finding their way to the surface. Count the number of question raised in this post. And see how many of them (if any) get answered. |
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You reported my misconduct to scooby and told me about it later instead of only talkting to me about it. I ask you to report anyhing that happens and you agree. Then, SixSick6 posts his middle finger and tells you to stick it up your ass and you don't even report that. I tell you to STFU and he tells you to shove his middle finger up his ass. Which is worse? Which one did you report? I'll ask you more questions after I hear your response. No, I change my mind. This thread isn't in my forum so I don't have to play mod here. You can't stop arguing and leave well enough alone. Where is Damian? Do you think I was the only mod that made the decision to ban you two? No it was the decision of multiple mods. So just move on. Oh, I know where Damian is; he moved on. Now it's your turn.
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Sic Semper Tyrannis
I'm drinking a Coke.
First off- That was not my middle finger, it was a random google image of someone else's middle finger. You can easily go back, click properties, and the rightful owner will be givin credit. Second off- I never told him to shove anything up his ass. I told him to shove it up his ASSumption. His ASSumption that the whole spark plug thread wasn't written by me. His ASSumption was that while the first paragraph was similar, that the whole thing must have been ripped off, which it hadn't. If we were to argue semantics further, Id say, sure, the first paragraph is similar and some of the wordage was probably fresh. BUT, the rest of the thread was my wordage. Last edited by SixSick6 : 7-7-05 at 21:29. |
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