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Old 5-24-08, 16:18   #1 (permalink)
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Question 1989 B2200 Engine Upgrade

I need to know if anything from a MX5 RWD will fit the B2200 block. My truck is an automatic with overdrive.

My truck is missing the head and I want to upgrade the head from the 8v to a 12v. Is this possible using parts from the MX5.

I found a complete MX5 engine on Ebay for just under $500.

Should I jump on that? and would that block fit my B2200 transmission?
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No I don't think it will, What I have heard of is taking a f2/f2t and taking the trany bell housing from the b2200 to make it work in a miata.
what you can do is to get a kia sportage engine (aka detuned fe-dohc) and megasquirt it to make it work in your b2200. I forgot exactly what year you need but I believe its pre year 2000.
or you can get the wiring harness and head off of a mx6 to make it work but then you will need the wiring diagrams for both the mx6 and the b2200 to make everything work.
Or once again you can megasquirt it which involves making your own wiring harness and tuning your car, yourself.

The choice is yours but whatever you do its not going to be easy.

Oh wait i forgot you can just return it to stock which wouldn't be as difficult, but where is the fun in that??

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Granted I have not done any of the things I have just spoken of. But I have read about it here on mx6.com. So be careful whatever you decide to do.

And I know you haven't been here that long so there is a lot you haven't read, so because of your ignorance your still a noob. Don't let this bother you everyone starts somewhere. So keep reading old threads and anything you find interesting. try not to bump too many old threads because a lot of these topics have been beat into the ground. You will understand this later, the longer you stay on here.

best of luck and welcome to mx6.com hope you stay and ignore all the donkeys.

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What do you mean by bump old thread?
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he means look for old threads and read up on the information weve put dwn that way we wont have 100z of threads of the same thing u know

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Well I just found out my engine is no good, it needs to be rebuilt its froze up solid. I just bought the truck for $395, its been sitting since 1996 with the head off of it.


If I am going to rebuild one I might as well get a complete engine to start with. I dont want to use the kia engine because of the way the intake runs over the valve cover.

I would rather use the intake from the MX5, but I dont know if that would work.

So here is my question,

I need to know if the 1.6L MX5 engine will bolt directly to an automatic transmission in a 1989 B2200?

I do not have my transmission removed so I have no idea if the bellhousing is removeable on the mazda B2200 automatic. I hope that it is removeable, that way I can adapt the transmission to the 1.6L if necesary.

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I remember back when I first started driving (holy crap that was 11 years ago...) and me and my boys were all running B series and Nissan 720's, we had RX-7 motors in more than a few of them. One in particular was a Turbo II in a standard cab B2200 with a 5 speed, but more than a few guys were starting to put 350's in. There was a bolt on kit from Canada, you'd have to do some searching.

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i would suggest, if you can't find answers elsewhere, taking a template of the bolt holes on the transmission to a junkyard because you can 'probably' find a miata block with the tranny already pulled off. im familiar with the F2t using the RX7 tranny and ive seen the miata tranny used with the RX7 bell housing so im sure there's some kind of combination you can figure out

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I need a push in the right direction....somebody hellllp me!

I have been searching and searching for two days now, I'm not sure what I want to do with this thing. I am tempted to buy the miata 1.6L and a miata bellhousing and put the miata bellhousing on my B2200 auto trans (if thats possible, will the B2200 auto bellhousing be removeable, this I do not know of).

I know the miata gear box is better, but I dont want to tear the trans apart more than I have to, also I am hoping that I can get just the bellhousing by its self that would be cheaper.

Another thing I dont know about is if the Miata engine mounts are different than the B2200. I will have to keep looking for pics of he miata 1.6L to see if they are different.

Feedback is welcome, I need input.....lol



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i would suggest, if you can't find answers elsewhere, taking a template of the bolt holes on the transmission to a junkyard because you can 'probably' find a miata block with the tranny already pulled off. im familiar with the F2t using the RX7 tranny and ive seen the miata tranny used with the RX7 bell housing so im sure there's some kind of combination you can figure out
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don't use a miata engine its just not Worth the time, money and trouble. You would be better off handing someone else the money so they can do a project of their own.
The engines the other guys have suggested would probably cost you about the same amount of money and be easier. Remember good deals come around all the time, right now that miata engine might look good but your going to kick yourself later for not putting something else in that could have possibly cost less of everything time, money, balls, bla bla bla.
if your having to ask those kind of questions that is a tell tale sign that your not ready to take on this kind of project and your just going to send it to the junk yard. to do something either nobody has done or very few people have done is very hard to do and will require fabrication skills so you can make all your own crap. There just isn't much information out there for you. if it was me I wouldn't take on that project, even now. (I'm still learning too)

Just follow the beaten path till you have learned more things and are ready to take on a project like that (use an fe3, f2t,350,Rx7 engine 13b i think its called etc.). there is a lot of info out there for these kind of projects.
Take it really, really easy. I can not stress this point enough, There are so many people that take on projects and never complete them. be ready for this project to last 1, even 2 years (I'm not kidding). You really have to be devoted to it.
Perhaps you will be lucky and be a fast learner and get it done in under six months. And if you do you must post pics of you doing burn outs!!
But no don't get your hopes up.

The cheapest, easiest way I can see you upgrading your b2200 is by buying a mx6/626 gt and swapping every thing over. thats how I would do it. (the f2t out of a mx6/626 bolts directly on to the b2200's trany). You will have to cut a hole out of your fire wall to make room for the distributor.

Basically no matter which way you choose your probably going to need some one to fab u up some stuff to make everything work.

hope that helps

just to explain what bumping a thread is:

Have you noticed that when someone makes a thread it starts to move down the list as new threads are made?

Well when you reply to a thread it takes it back to the top of the list. the thread eventually gets buried when no one responds to it.
But at any given time some one can read a 4 year old post and respond to it "bumping" it all the way to the top of the list. Sometimes this is ok, Most of the time its not. Just try to use your best jugement and don't be scared of being "flamed" (made fun of, laughed at, etc). Its just part of learning and eventualy you will learn what you should or shouldn't do. I hate to say there is no such thing as a stupid question (cuz there is) but I think you get my point.

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look into this, i found this in a matter of 10 seconds
B2200GT's 1990 Mazda B-Series on CarDomain - Page 5

and this:
http://www.mx6.com/forums/1g-mx6-for...f2t-b2200.html (My F2T B2200!)

and even this:
mazdabscene.com ~ View topic - CHECK IT OUT! My f2t boostin!

a personal fav:
Miata Engine History and Interchangability Guide

there are lots and lots of choices out there for you, it all depends on what you really want from the car and how much time/effort you want to put into the project. personally if it was me i would just put a little more effort into it and go with the F2T since its already documented or be super baller and go with a G series motor from the 2600 (mitsu starion motor should fit). The miata swap would probably work but the bell housing is probably different

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I would go with an FE3 swap. Its already available in rwd setup, you can change the intake manifold, and would be a step up over a sohc.

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you could just use Fred's UTE thread for inspiration, makes me want to do a similar swap everytime i read it

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I would go with an FE3 swap. Its already available in rwd setup, you can change the intake manifold, and would be a step up over a sohc.

Will the stock B2200 intake fit the FE3 Kia Sportage head?
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