Rob as you are or should be aware there is a sticky at the top of the forum that states clearly that inactive accounts are automatically deleted after a while.
You were not the only person this has happened to.
If you would still like to join i would be more than happy to sort it out for you.
atb,
Gerry.
This has been sorted feel free to post away.
atb,
Gerry.
Just before this thread gets closed i would like to say that i found this forum very useful.
As a way of learning about my mx6,and meeting other owners.
Me too.
I was sorry to see that some people could not let sleeping dogs alone,
and that things from the past kept being brought up.
So i started mazdamad.
You are the culprit then .....
I have joined it too as well as mx6.oc ...
Have not had any time yet to pop in and say ' Hi ', but soon I will inundate you with loads of fotos .....
I jest, of course, just a few.
We are only a small forum so far but we have fun.
That seems to have left .com which is a shame,i agree with the posts made earlier that joining this forum to oc would be a mistake.
Because sooner or later this forum would get swallowed up and forgotten.
Everyone here has worked hard to get this place as it is.
Why give all that up.
After all the positive feedback, the UK side of mx6.com will remain for sure.
It would be a terrible thing to let it sink without trace after all the hard work done by people in the past.
Stay independent,but work alongside other forums such as mazdamad and oc,
The mazda world is big enough for all and the three sites offer different things in different ways.
I could not agree with you more hun.
I will stay a member here as well as oc,life is to short not to get the best out of everything you can.
Great, look forward to hearing from you soon on forum, you have been missed.
I don't see why people can't just enjoy all three forums and why at meets such as Trax we all don't just share the stand and show a united face as mazda lovers.
These are my feelings exactly.
Gerry , we both sing from the same hymn sheet ...
just my point of view.
I am up late tonight as I have been putting together a gas BBQ that I bought earlier today in the sale at Robert Dyas.
Great value at £49.99 instead of £79.99 and well made too.
I nearly bought one last year in their sale but in reality needed the money for my trip to the USA and with the hot weather having returned, I thought it was time to get one.
Dave and I have had a chat and we feel it's time to close this thread.
I will close it later today around 10.00pm, so if you have anything further to say on the subject, please do so.
As Dave said to me "Just don't delete the whole of mx6.com " .....
Nite or morning
Paula
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Nothing like a decent wood fire and resultant embers/coals to have a "braai"
Look that up...
Africa - It's like "zoom-zoom-stolen"
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Originally Posted by whitenoyz
let's say you and i are banging, but you're banging goat on the side. Now imagine goat is also banging adie, and adie comes over at night to get her throat coated. Imagine if I'm also hollowing out Mary in my free time, who is in turn sleeping with Zach.
just want to say that I find it disappointing that a lot of members have chosen not to post in this thread, and have contributed little in the last few weeks despite logging in.
Nothing like a decent wood fire and resultant embers/coals to have a "braai"
Look that up...
I still Braai. I lived in Vorna Valley for 3 years near Kylami and loved that side of SA that much it only take the clouds to break and out she comes.
NO GAS here!!!!!!
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just want to say that I find it disappointing that a lot of members have chosen not to post in this thread, and have contributed little in the last few weeks despite logging in.
I think we guaged oppinion and that is what we asked for and also to see who contributed. I think this is done now and as such time to move on. Any more points or ideas should be raised by pm as they can be discussed eleswhere and wont affect the forum apperance or scare people off.
...............you dont stop laughing because you grow old, ..you grow old because you stop laughing.....
I am briefly re-opening this thread for the day till 10.00pm again tonight as Ben wanted to say something but was unable to do so previously due to a technical hitch.
Hey, I finished the BBQ last night and we are christening it on Saturday with the next door neighbours.....
Well folks. This IS an interesting thread isn't it?
First off, let me apologise for -
A) Bringing this thread back from the dead.
B) Allowing myself to get narked by Goatcrapp's comments and getting banned.
I think a little history is in order to freshen people's memory.
When I first joined this site, it was, to be quite frank, fantastic. It had a great member base, with lots of knowledgable people, and an active social life.
Then something unfortunate happened. A well established member at the time caused a bit of a ruckus by disappearing off the reservation, along with people's money & goods. This member was the only person I've let drive my car from MX6.com!
This issue caused a massive rift within .com for several reasons -
1) It was construed as criminal activity, as such the police got involved. This was highly divisive and made a lot of people stand up and take notice.
2) People on the receiving end of it basically got side-lined and banned in the end, which was unfair and harsh.
3) The moderator team back then (in more than a few peoples eyes) mishandled the situation. However, I don't think anyone helped with that situation at all. It was a cluster-f%*$.
4) It appeared that the 'Powers that be' on this site at the time were being unfair and in some cases a little outrageous generally, and i'm not referring to the UK mod team only here - hence, a large portion of the old member group left. I stayed, being relatively new and all.
This event virtually destroyed the UK MX-6 'community'. Ever since that time, some among us have been trying to rebuild it, heal old wounds, and generally help everyone to play nice again. This isn't the last we'd hear of this however.
Moving on.
Another event then caused probably the biggest ructions we'd ever seen on .com - the Autoforums Fiasco.
(Guess what one aspect of my current full-time job is? Virtual Community Management. So I know a thing or two about this.)
Because of the authoritarian approach taken by Autoforums, we lost the central management team, (scooby et al) and most of the moderators and knowledgeable members. In this situation, we ALSO lost the main UK moderators - admittedly, they had all taken a back seat from the community anyway as they were moving on with their 'car' life. We all started to recognise things needed to move on in terms of moderating the UK side when other things started to happen.
I received word LONG ago, before the autoforums fiasco, that an account on here was exhibiting unusual behaviour, and that it could be someone who was banned for this so called 'criminal behaviour'. I did a little digging - lo and behold, this information was accurate. However, we're all adults on here - we all knew that the initial UK side ruckus caused was because of a lack of communication all round which developed into silliness.
However, I called the bluff of this account, and a public argument developed. The mods shut it down, warned myself and the other account, peace was restored. The reason the mods did this was because they had 'met' the account holder - or at least they thought they had. I knew the truth, so did the other account. The reason the argument developed was because, like MX6Addict, I desired the truth to be known - not for any vindictive reasons, but because I felt the truth would make things better. Two accounts, for two useful and committed members. But for whatever reason, this wasn't their desire at the time - so our view points conflicted.
I let sleeping dogs sleep for the moment.
As time moved on, the mods became less and less active, almost to the point where there was no interaction at all. Myself, and others became annoyed at the lack of input the NEW central .com management team gave us. They knew the mod team on our side had left, but nothing happened. We all put this down to a troublesome transition - which it was. I still think that is the case.
During this period, it was noticed that the account in question appeared to be doing 'favours' for alot of the new mods and new central management team (who knew nothing of the account - or the people behind it, and the previous behaviour). The account also appeared to be using .com as a shop window for it's mx6 breaking & parts service. Along with torpedoing other peoples' car and parts sales.
Now, I'm drawing no judgements here. I'm not saying old mistakes need to be punished again and again. I don't believe in that. The issue here was that it appeared that a 'play' was being made by the account for control of the UK side, to further entrench the 'business' the account had set up, for its own gain. Myself and others considered this highly detrimental to the community at large.
So we set about exposing the truth. Again, this wasn't a witch hunt. MX6Addict quite rightly stated that in his "truth" thread. I provided historical and current context to the argument, I had spoken over the phone and in person to both people involved in the account in question. Both top guys, with a sincere passion for MX6's. But due to a mistaken belief that concealing important information from the community would make things better, they were in fact causing problems.
Imagine then, our 'perturbance' when we arrive one day on the site, and find the account in question was a moderation account, keys to the kingdom in hand. We then asked for help, and blew the whistle.
What happened next was totally, and unbelievably cynical. Not only did the powers that be NOT take appropriate action, they actually made the situation worse. They presented an image of the situation that they were 'covering' for the account in question. Believing as we did that they had effectively been 'bought' by the account in question, this was a worrying sign. However, none of us felt this could be true - it was just too Machiavellian. Not to mention we'd met the people behind the account in question - they were unorthodox, but not like that.
The account then had it's moderation removed, in no small part thanks to Oddball Paul. He knew alot of the background info that the new management team didn't. Again, let me stress, this was not a 'happy' event - we wanted new moderators - but we all wanted the UK side COMMUNITY to choose them. Not some ethereal management team that knew nothing about the way our community worked. Things turned nasty.
Threatening texts and emails were received by certain parties, sent in the heat of the moment. Yet the management team STILL didn't act properly. Whilst they did start to 'button down' the account in question, they didn't respond to the communities' wider concerns, nor did they calm things down properly. I appreciate it was difficult circumstances, but things did not go well.
Moving on.
The account in question was made to look stupid - not a good thing, as they aren't - nor are they bad fellows. This happened because the management team took the 'bazooka to kill an ant' approach. All that was required, was the two members behind the account in question were made to use two seperate accounts. At this point I became frustrated with the way things were being run - but didn't say anything in the vain hope things would get better.
Then the much mooted 'Goatcrapp Announcement' appeared. I lost it a little with this. It looked very much like a Department of Homeland Security proclamation - with a total lack of understanding of the UK MX6 community, or even the UK culture in general. I spoke up, and as you all know, and have seen - the rest will be remembered with disdain. For my part in it as well.
So that's where we are at.
The outcomes? Quite Positive.
1) We finally have an active 'community approved' moderation team.
2) The account in question now uses seperate ID's - however I only see one of them on here any more which is a shame.
3) The boards are a 'little' more active.
4) Open debate and adult discussion is approved and allowed with (hopefully) no risk of arbitrary bannings or childish silliness.
The problems?
1) We don't have enough MX6 UK community members for 3 forums. Period. I don't care what anyone says - that's my professional opinion not my personal one. Yes we can use all three, but eventually, one will win out as being the best. It's Darwinian Selection, and time / effort economics.
2) .Com is still under executive control of people who don't understand UK culture. As long as their requests and interactions are put through the appropriate channels - mx6-uk and Paula, we won't have any problems.
3) The forum on the UK side needs to be developed further, with a technical library based on the UK car - different to US / JAP / SA etc etc. This would represent an investment in the UK side and boost confidence.
4) The simple fact that consideration has been given to closing the UK side of .com makes things abundantly clear to me about where the priorities of the current administration sit at the moment. I thank you mx6-uk and Paula for declining that invitation.
I'm quite happy to stick around and help out - but I will be more active over on the OC, as I think that physically, the FORUM design itself is far superior. .COM is very useful as a library function - the depth of information is spectacular. As a community hangout - it's poor.
I can't wait to see EVERYONE, and I mean EVERYONE at Trax. It's going to be the grandest meet ever for the UK MX6 community since the 'good ole days'. All the rubbish is behind us, identities are revealed, no sneakiness abounds, everyone can relax and enjoy what is a damn good car. And of course the amazing grub that Rob's other half and others are going to provide.
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