Addict, you probably hit the nail on the head when you said not to be seduced by this sweet looking car of mine, unleash it. I am seduced. And I don't want to risk changing it I suppose. I just want to look after it, whilst not being too precious about it - it's full of paper and rubbish inside! A proper used car. But I want to maintain it, and get the best from it.
I need to think about this. I'll take some pics tomorrow, and will ahve come down from four pints of abbot ale by then...
In the meatnime, many thanks for all your advice. Look forward to continuing this tomorrow.
Mx6 isnt suited to Hillclimbing really as the wheelbase is too long, weight reduction to less than 1000kgs is difficult and power gains are limited unless you turbo/nitrous the car.
Almost everyone on this site who has modded their car has used non approved parts or off the shelf after market stuff.
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one last question..what's the fuel consumption like on a KLZE headed engine?
And I notice from that wiki link [thanks addict] that peak torque is at higher revs. One of the pleasures I find with this standard car is the low rev torque. Would the ZE engine lose this?
SS exhaust system and headers (I would expect to pay £500)
Full length induction kit (£40 ebay or £60 probestore)
Uprated Fuel pressure regulator (improves throttle response - £40)
Banjo bolt mod (increases fuel rail pressure to go with the FPR - FREE!)
All the above are basic entry level bolt on mods to improve bhp and driveability + give a bit more sound to the V6
KLZE cams + inlet manifold and throttle body + KL36 ECU and Vaf - Around £300
Bolting the top end from a KLZE onto a DE engine will give you an approximate gain of 20bhp I would think + it keeps the lower compression bottom end if any future boosting is to be done. You can service/replace the HLA's at the same time or get a complete KLZE top end with heads and bolt it straight on.
Windy, are KZLE heads easy to get hold of?
What do you mean by 'future boosting'?
What about suspension and/or braking mods?
Windy, are KZLE heads easy to get hold of?
What do you mean by 'future boosting'?
What about suspension and/or braking mods?
cheers
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KLZE's dont come up that often so its hard to say
Future boosting = adding a turbo, supercharger or Nitrous, but none of these are Mazda approved
Again with suspension and brakes there arent any mazda approved kits available other than Mazdaspeed lowering springs and i've only ever seen them once. If you want to upgrade the brakes you would need to change to grooved/drilled disks and EBC pads or, if you want larger brakes, go for a Mazda6 conversion (search on here for mazda6 brake upgrade).
Fuel consumption would be little different to a normal engine, it all depends on how you drive it.
Last edited by windy_mx6 : 6-10-09 at 2:48.
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If I had the readies I'd get one myself, oh well...
1997 Mazda MX-6 2.5 V6 - UK GT Spec in Noble Green II w/198k miles (yes, really!)
Mods: Pioneer DEH-P80MP headunit, internal Blaupunkt aerial, Mazdaspeed decals, sunstrip and tax disc holder, black leather Momo Corse gearknob and Richbrook gear gaiter, polished silver Richbrook gear sleeve, clear side indicator lenses and some blue interior LEDs
See pics on MX6.com and CarDomain
I'm going down a similar route to you with my car but the lack of mazda parts means you have to take the next best thing. I think you should look at the stuff available on ebay, there are lots of cheap upgrades on there.
Think of it like uprating the parts to similar ones of higher quality.
I have the following so far (not all installed yet):
Cold Air Intake (£40 on ebay)
stainless steel exhaust manifold (£130 on ebay)
de-cat (ebay, can't remember how much but about £40 maybe)
powerflow stainless steel exhaust (£50 from a fellow mx6.com member)
banjo bolt (free from windy)
Fuel pressure regulator (£25 on ebay)
Short shift gear lever (£40 on ebay)
Mazda RX-8 alloys (£120 on ebay) - Because I want wider tyres while keeping it mazda.
The things still on my list are:
Rear anti-sway bar (£200 on probestore)
-35mm springs (maybe probestore but I'll shop around)
13" 6-pot race brakes (£1000 on ebay for front and same for rear)
Throttlebody port/polish (Can't find anyone to do it anymore!! )
Thermotek intake manifold spacers (out of stock on probestore)
Mazdaspeed spoiler (super rare and as time passes I like the standard one more and more)
stage 1 clutch (To improve it without making it difficult to drive on the road)
Lightweight 9lbs flywheel (£280 on probestore!!)
Modern Mazda steering wheel (I just really like it, plus it has cruise control buttons so I could maybe bodge a standard cruise control system to work on it)
Megasquirt ecu replacement (£200 for hardware + more for tuning)
That last one is most important as it will then properly use each of the previous mods and power will shoot up, hopefully.
There's probably more but you get the idea, the things you see need to be standard looking (i.e. people will look at it and think it's a new model from mazda not a modified old one) while the things you don't see can be upgraded and improved upon.
@ mark
Thanks for giving my car as an example of a cared for good condition mx6. I do try
Rob, why do you want to pay £280 for a flywheel when you can get a 14lb MX3 flywheel for £50 and bolt it straight on?
The mods you have listed on a DE engine dont warrant a 9lb flywheel but if you decide to go for it i'm sure you could get one from the states for less.
Rob, why do you want to pay £280 for a flywheel when you can get a 14lb MX3 flywheel for £50 and bolt it straight on?
The mods you have listed on a DE engine dont warrant a 9lb flywheel but if you decide to go for it i'm sure you could get one from the states for less.
any weight removed from the driveline is amplified through the gears so the lower the weight of the flywheel the better. that extra 5lbs would make a big difference, especially in first and second gears.
Good idea about checking the US, they always have more stuff available for cheaper.
I suppose this is a good example of how I am with my car, I'd rather not spend less on something not as good because I'll only end up replacing it with the more expensive one anyway. If the best is within reach then I'll save up and get that.
I'm finding this thread fascinating because what antelope wants to do with his car is something along the lines of what I have in mind.
So far, my shopping list includes:
Suspension kit, currently looking at Tokico and Daiyama, which I've gathered are the best for the MX6. Don't want to go too low, but enough to add to the looks and improve handling. Whilst I'm doing that, I'll probably replace parts that haven't been changed yet, i.e wishbones.
Scorpion cat back exhaust
Respray in original Platinum Silver, including repairs to front wing.
17", or maybe 18" alloys. May keep the looks of my Speedlines but add an inch.
Laguna splitter, but really want the LSi lip & pods from the J-spec.
Engine-wise, I'm not sure whether I want to do too much just yet, that may
be a gradual process.
OH reckons she could retrim my leather interior fairly easily and with a lot less cost. It definitely needs doing, as it's getting pretty worn.
I'll probably slip a few carbon interior bits in, along with a flip out DVD screen
That's the basics of my plan so far. I'm not being too ambitious to start with, I just want my nice clean 6 back, with improvements.
you're definately going down the right road there Rob. I think Antelope is going to struggle with his as he only wants to use mazda approved products on the car and basically thats a "good luck" exercise.
The only think you've listed that is mazda approved is the LSi pods and lip, other than that its all aftermarket or another make all together.
Wonder what happened to Antelope anyway, not been on for 3 weeks.
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you're definately going down the right road there Rob. I think Antelope is going to struggle with his as he only wants to use mazda approved products on the car and basically thats a "good luck" exercise.
The only think you've listed that is mazda approved is the LSi pods and lip, other than that its all aftermarket or another make all together.
Wonder what happened to Antelope anyway, not been on for 3 weeks.
I think I've mentioned before that I'm a fan of the MX6's clean lines, and I want to keep it that way, with one or two classy additions. I don't go in for massive bodykits, though there are a few classy ones around, MX6Steve's, and a cracking one from the US site spring immediately to mind. I just prefer the original look.
Reading this one with intent, as plenty on my wishlist too, along the lines of everyone else's really...do like the TWR kit best though I think
1997 Mazda MX-6 2.5 V6 - UK GT Spec in Noble Green II w/198k miles (yes, really!)
Mods: Pioneer DEH-P80MP headunit, internal Blaupunkt aerial, Mazdaspeed decals, sunstrip and tax disc holder, black leather Momo Corse gearknob and Richbrook gear gaiter, polished silver Richbrook gear sleeve, clear side indicator lenses and some blue interior LEDs
See pics on MX6.com and CarDomain
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