Urgent Help Needed!! - Page 6

**Davidos12** · 8-5-08, 13:13

Yes Clive, hope all goes well as you have put so much effort in with so little knowledge. I sallute you sir as I'd have given up long ago.

Dave.

Will you still be selling once sorted

**N0DDY** · 8-5-08, 13:43

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Originally Posted by Davidos12

Will you still be selling once sorted

If it was me, and I'd put in that much effort to get my car sorted, and come so far over such a long time after thinking that my car was dead, you'd have to prize the car from my cold dead hands, and even then I'd haunt it.

I'm another guy who's been following your brave efforts to sort out this problem, keep up the good work - so close!!

**clivjoo** · 8-5-08, 14:50

well, i teetered on the edge of selling the car, as some of you know, but like you say, so much effort,. so much time and money, i want to fix the car, and keep it. Oh i am sure something else will come along to fix and spend money on, but at least i know the car better now...

**Einstein** · 8-5-08, 16:14

You just have to look at the rest of the car, and you know it HAS to be fixed rather than sold or worse, scrapped..

It just makes sense to fix her, but saying that, had this gone to a garage, the expense would have put anybody off... this really is the only viable option..

Go Clive GO !

John

**clivjoo** · 8-5-08, 17:12

i am filled with so much confidence cos of you guys!

**Postal Dude** · 8-6-08, 3:25

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Originally Posted by clivjoo

i am filled with so much confidence cos of you guys!

Just don't go screwing it up and disappointing us

Keep it up mate!

Gerry

**clivjoo** · 8-6-08, 6:52

lol, arrrggghhh, i hope not!! kit shoudl arrive today/tomorrow, so i am gonna try one bolt hole that evening!

oddly, and annoyingly, my fourtrak seems to have "lost" 2 bolts off the PS pump, how annoying is that?!! being Daihatsu it still works tho....

**Einstein** · 8-6-08, 9:09

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Originally Posted by clivjoo

being Daihatsu it still works tho....

And how long were you driving the Mazda with all those problems !!!!

John

**clivjoo** · 8-6-08, 12:51

driving around with it like that for about 18 months!!

anyway, got the kit now, got the bolts too, so am off to drill a hole, only question is, the helicoils are really short, is that it, or do i need longer ones?? the tool looks like it will only allow me to insert the small helicoils that much into the hole...

**Einstein** · 8-6-08, 13:13

Because of the strength needed in that area, I would be tempted to go for the longest helicoils that will go in there..

I have heard you can fit more than one helicoil in a hole though..

John

**clivjoo** · 8-6-08, 13:24

hmm, darn it! actually, just might have had a brainwave. th eheliocil insetion tol has a groove at the end fo rthe tang, fine, but it also has a disc that push the helicoil in, this LOOKS adjustable, BUT the only problem then is the tang groove, what if i load up say 3 helicoils, minus tangs on two and leav e the end one with tang, do you reckon that will work? i just dont want to start and find i hav eforced 2 of three in there and its not right! so close....

dang! just found out, i defo need to longest helicoil to fit th ehole, so it smy gues long enough fo rthe entire thread of the bolt, which is 3 coils, or 3cm....back to ebay...

**Postal Dude** · 8-6-08, 13:40

You can't stack them like that, the threads probably wouldn't line up correctly. the inserts themselves are quite cheap, it's better to get some longer ones and do it right first time.

Gerry

**clivjoo** · 8-6-08, 13:45

totally agree, now i hav ethe kit i understand a little better, but i cant find ANY long ones anywhere!! i need some approx 3cm long...

** I have tapped the first bolt hole, surprisingly easy. I did try to screw in a helicoil, just to test if the start of the bolt hole would be ok (after my wonky drilling) and it looks like it will be, just need them longer helicoils now!

**Postal Dude** · 8-7-08, 10:03

Actually you don't!
I double checked with the tool room at work and because of the strength of the Helicoils Stainless threads and the way it's threaded in to the Aluminium it will be many times stronger than the original Ail threads. The most common available Helicoil inserts are 1.5D which are 1.5x the thread diameter so a M10 Helicoil will be 15mm long.
Get to work Clive!

Gerry

**clivjoo** · 8-7-08, 12:23

bugger. i just ordered a 10 pack of 30mm helicoils!! ah well, only £16 so i will wait for them.....!!! darn it.

8-5-08, 13:13	#76 (permalink)
Davidos12 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Cardiff, UK Age: 41 iTrader: (0)	Yes Clive, hope all goes well as you have put so much effort in with so little knowledge. I sallute you sir as I'd have given up long ago. Dave. Will you still be selling once sorted
	Yes love,, I do need to drive around aimlessly.................

8-5-08, 14:50	#78 (permalink)
clivjoo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: huddersfield, UK Age: 31 iTrader: (0)	well, i teetered on the edge of selling the car, as some of you know, but like you say, so much effort,. so much time and money, i want to fix the car, and keep it. Oh i am sure something else will come along to fix and spend money on, but at least i know the car better now...
	I FIXED MY CAR-WE FIXED MY CAR!!

8-5-08, 17:12	#80 (permalink)
clivjoo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: huddersfield, UK Age: 31 iTrader: (0)	i am filled with so much confidence cos of you guys!
	I FIXED MY CAR-WE FIXED MY CAR!!

8-6-08, 6:52	#82 (permalink)
clivjoo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: huddersfield, UK Age: 31 iTrader: (0)	lol, arrrggghhh, i hope not!! kit shoudl arrive today/tomorrow, so i am gonna try one bolt hole that evening! oddly, and annoyingly, my fourtrak seems to have "lost" 2 bolts off the PS pump, how annoying is that?!! being Daihatsu it still works tho....
	I FIXED MY CAR-WE FIXED MY CAR!!

8-6-08, 12:51	#84 (permalink)
clivjoo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: huddersfield, UK Age: 31 iTrader: (0)	driving around with it like that for about 18 months!! anyway, got the kit now, got the bolts too, so am off to drill a hole, only question is, the helicoils are really short, is that it, or do i need longer ones?? the tool looks like it will only allow me to insert the small helicoils that much into the hole...
	I FIXED MY CAR-WE FIXED MY CAR!!

8-6-08, 13:24	#86 (permalink)
clivjoo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: huddersfield, UK Age: 31 iTrader: (0)	hmm, darn it! actually, just might have had a brainwave. th eheliocil insetion tol has a groove at the end fo rthe tang, fine, but it also has a disc that push the helicoil in, this LOOKS adjustable, BUT the only problem then is the tang groove, what if i load up say 3 helicoils, minus tangs on two and leav e the end one with tang, do you reckon that will work? i just dont want to start and find i hav eforced 2 of three in there and its not right! so close.... dang! just found out, i defo need to longest helicoil to fit th ehole, so it smy gues long enough fo rthe entire thread of the bolt, which is 3 coils, or 3cm....back to ebay... Last edited by clivjoo : 8-6-08 at 13:34.
	I FIXED MY CAR-WE FIXED MY CAR!!

8-6-08, 13:40	#87 (permalink)
Postal Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Durham, UK Age: 45 iTrader: (0)	You can't stack them like that, the threads probably wouldn't line up correctly. the inserts themselves are quite cheap, it's better to get some longer ones and do it right first time. Gerry
	97 Black MX-6 and a Toyota Estima www.rcmf.co.uk www.namfc.co.uk

8-6-08, 13:45	#88 (permalink)
clivjoo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: huddersfield, UK Age: 31 iTrader: (0)	totally agree, now i hav ethe kit i understand a little better, but i cant find ANY long ones anywhere!! i need some approx 3cm long... ** I have tapped the first bolt hole, surprisingly easy. I did try to screw in a helicoil, just to test if the start of the bolt hole would be ok (after my wonky drilling) and it looks like it will be, just need them longer helicoils now! Last edited by clivjoo : 8-6-08 at 14:21.
	I FIXED MY CAR-WE FIXED MY CAR!!

8-7-08, 10:03	#89 (permalink)
Postal Dude Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Durham, UK Age: 45 iTrader: (0)	Actually you don't! I double checked with the tool room at work and because of the strength of the Helicoils Stainless threads and the way it's threaded in to the Aluminium it will be many times stronger than the original Ail threads. The most common available Helicoil inserts are 1.5D which are 1.5x the thread diameter so a M10 Helicoil will be 15mm long. Get to work Clive! Gerry
	97 Black MX-6 and a Toyota Estima www.rcmf.co.uk www.namfc.co.uk

8-7-08, 12:23	#90 (permalink)
clivjoo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: huddersfield, UK Age: 31 iTrader: (0)	bugger. i just ordered a 10 pack of 30mm helicoils!! ah well, only £16 so i will wait for them.....!!! darn it.
	I FIXED MY CAR-WE FIXED MY CAR!!